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Post by trailboss on Jan 6, 2024 20:16:43 GMT -5
Saw a version of this on CBS today, after this story posted in the latter part of last year, other Atlanta jurisdictions are considering doing the same. Columbine happened 23 years ago, and some are now waking up to “we-need to do better?” Wow! www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/08/08/outgunned-rifle-qualified-school-police-officers-vary-by-district/The officers in the town that I live in were required to be proficient in the AR platform when I moved here in 2005, every one of them has one while on duty, even the Evel Knevel’s on motorcycles. |
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Post by mgtarheel on Jan 7, 2024 21:58:03 GMT -5
I agree!
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Post by toshtego on Jan 7, 2024 22:46:21 GMT -5
I thought the Los Angeles Bank of America robbery in the early 1990s with the armor plated perps taught the police to up their armament. BTW, I was there across the street when that went down.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 10, 2024 21:39:07 GMT -5
I thought the Los Angeles Bank of America robbery in the early 1990s with the armor plated perps taught the police to up their armament. BTW, I was there across the street when that went down. I always wondered what happened to the third guy… he was never captured, now we know. |
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Post by toshtego on Feb 18, 2024 7:00:31 GMT -5
I thought the Los Angeles Bank of America robbery in the early 1990s with the armor plated perps taught the police to up their armament. BTW, I was there across the street when that went down. I always wondered what happened to the third guy… he was never captured, now we know. Yeah, but I never got my cut. Rats! Seriously, I was in the Sears parking lot hunkered down in my vehicle. Much shooting. Then an LAPD officer advised me to leave the Land Cruiser and run and I mean run to the other side of the store. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 18, 2024 7:19:26 GMT -5
That is some crazy stuff, on par with being present at the FBI shootout in Florida.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 18, 2024 11:46:25 GMT -5
That is some crazy stuff, on par with being present at the FBI shootout in Florida. I could not see much. There was a Loomis or Brinks armored car in front of the bank and many other cars. I could sure hear the firing and commotion. Auto fire bursts among others. Just lucky, I guess.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 18, 2024 16:59:16 GMT -5
That is some crazy stuff, on par with being present at the FBI shootout in Florida. I could not see much. There was a Loomis or Brinks armored car in front of the bank and many other cars. I could sure hear the firing and commotion. Auto fire bursts among others. Just lucky, I guess. Lucky to not have been shot. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 18, 2024 17:19:07 GMT -5
John has tough enough hide, the bullets would have landed at his feet.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 18, 2024 17:59:28 GMT -5
John has tough enough hide, the bullets would have landed at his feet. I am not Chuck Norris. Bullets can't stop Chuck Norris. He catches them in his teeth. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 18, 2024 18:06:22 GMT -5
John has tough enough hide, the bullets would have landed at his feet. I am not Chuck Norris. Bullets can't stop Chuck Norris. He catches them in his teeth. Like Bullet-Tooth Tony? |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 18, 2024 18:18:59 GMT -5
Linda Carter has bullet bouncing bracelets John, I had you hooked up with a date and you said "No I am going to Mrs Rios kitchen"...I absolve myself from any future calamities...all on you, bud.
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Post by zambini on Feb 24, 2024 10:59:08 GMT -5
I am not Chuck Norris. Bullets can't stop Chuck Norris. He catches them in his teeth. Like Bullet-Tooth Tony? I admire the style of Boris the Bullet Dodger more. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 24, 2024 14:42:02 GMT -5
Schools aren't the same. The only rifles in my high school school was my rifle teams. In middle school it rode the bus with me. Have the guns changed, or the kids?
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Post by urbino on Feb 24, 2024 15:59:18 GMT -5
I admire the style of Boris the Bullet Dodger more. I like that Tony wouldn't open up the dog. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 24, 2024 17:19:30 GMT -5
Schools aren't the same. The only rifles in my high school school was my rifle teams. In middle school it rode the bus with me. Have the guns changed, or the kids? A turning point was putting kids on psychotropic drugs instead of raising them right and adhering to tried and true methods of discipline in school. There is no counter argument to that, it is what it is. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 24, 2024 17:34:28 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 24, 2024 18:09:56 GMT -5
Again? So what are you saying this time? Don't get me started. Kids can be brought up right, unless there is some specific reason that you know of that it's impossible. I actually know the reasons, but I can't say it on the forum. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 24, 2024 18:25:52 GMT -5
Easy, Ron...Big Pharma has done a lot of "investments" to recalibrate the argument, and the "fact checkers" are more than happy to fall into "responsibly reporting" them findings. Immediately after Columbine, and ensuing school shootings there was a lot of connecting the dots...irrefutable. But then, big Pharma sprang into action...Chump change in spending, compared to fending off class action lawsuits, and the candy wagons keep rolling through society.
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Post by urbino on Feb 24, 2024 18:40:33 GMT -5
Again? So what are you saying this time? Don't get me started. Kids can be brought up right, unless there is some specific reason that you know of that it's impossible. I actually know the reasons, but I can't say it on the forum. I'm saying this is a classic complaint every older generation rails against in every younger generation. Every generation thinks "the young people these days" have it too easy, are too soft, etc. It's a dog-bites-man story. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 24, 2024 18:52:26 GMT -5
That’s true, Urb. But I think there is plenty of evidence that this time it’s different.
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Post by urbino on Feb 24, 2024 18:59:08 GMT -5
That’s true, Urb. But I think there is plenty of evidence that this time it’s different. Something seems messed up, sure. Multiple things. But every generation thinks that, too, right? And I, personally, am not going to pretend to know the one true cause of something as complex and overdetermined as broad social change. A lot of things have also improved. As a youngster with autism, for example, I went through a lot of shite that my nephew didn't have to put up with because people know about autism now and understand it better. I think that's a good thing. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 24, 2024 21:17:02 GMT -5
Again? So what are you saying this time? Don't get me started. Kids can be brought up right, unless there is some specific reason that you know of that it's impossible. I actually know the reasons, but I can't say it on the forum. I'm saying this is a classic complaint every older generation rails against in every younger generation. Every generation thinks "the young people these days" have it too easy, are too soft, etc. It's a dog-bites-man story. So why didn't we have all these school shootings in north America from 1780 through 1999? I mean, we had some, but mostly personal issues or an insane person. I mostly blame social media that is too much for the kids. And before the 70s, seriously mentally ill people were kept in hospitals. Many fewer people had guns that were available to kids. People didn't really think of their firearms as offensive devices. In 59 a guy blew up himself and his son with dynamite a few blocks from my home. No real motive was determined. He killed himself, his son, 2 teachers and 3 kids. But the news refused to cover it outside the neighborhood. My son was bullied in a private school he attended. He didn't shoot anyone, not that he had any access to a gun anyway, but he did break a pool cue over his back. That ended that. The headmistress suspended him for a day and thanked him for doing what she couldn't. I don't know what to do about it, if there is any way to put the genie back in the bottle. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 24, 2024 21:25:56 GMT -5
Again? So what are you saying this time? Don't get me started. Kids can be brought up right, unless there is some specific reason that you know of that it's impossible. I actually know the reasons, but I can't say it on the forum. I'm saying this is a classic complaint every older generation rails against in every younger generation. Every generation thinks "the young people these days" have it too easy, are too soft, etc. It's a dog-bites-man story. And I only feel that way about you. 😆 |
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Post by urbino on Feb 24, 2024 23:35:00 GMT -5
I'm saying this is a classic complaint every older generation rails against in every younger generation. Every generation thinks "the young people these days" have it too easy, are too soft, etc. It's a dog-bites-man story. So why didn't we have all these school shootings in north America from 1780 through 1999? I mean, we had some, but mostly personal issues or an insane person. I mostly blame social media that is too much for the kids. And before the 70s, seriously mentally ill people were kept in hospitals. Many fewer people had guns that were available to kids. People didn't really think of their firearms as offensive devices. In 59 a guy blew up himself and his son with dynamite a few blocks from my home. No real motive was determined. He killed himself, his son, 2 teachers and 3 kids. But the news refused to cover it outside the neighborhood. My son was bullied in a private school he attended. He didn't shoot anyone, not that he had any access to a gun anyway, but he did break a pool cue over his back. That ended that. The headmistress suspended him for a day and thanked him for doing what she couldn't. I don't know what to do about it, if there is any way to put the genie back in the bottle. All fair questions. Solving the country's social ills isn't a topic for this forum, though. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Feb 27, 2024 18:43:51 GMT -5
Your right we reserve this forum for getting upset over peoples Tshirts. We practice selective hypocrisy.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 6, 2024 17:01:43 GMT -5
Back in the early 1970s I knew an officer in a small town in northern California used to carry a Johnson Rifle in the trunk of his cruiser. He showed it to me once. The only time I have seen one. Interesting rifle. I liked how the magazine can be fed without opening the breech.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 6, 2024 19:10:21 GMT -5
Back in the early 1970s I knew an officer in a small town in northern California used to carry a Johnson Rifle in the trunk of his cruiser. He showed it to me once. The only time I have seen one. Interesting rifle. I liked how the magazine can be fed without opening the breech. I guess he wasn't taking chances of being out gunned. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 6, 2024 20:49:22 GMT -5
Not really a right vs left, not political at all…when the school shootings started, virtually all of them were related to kids that were on psychotropic drugs, but the dots never seem to be connected or addressed.
I am not sure if the most recent one I can think of in Uvalde Tx. Was related to the same, but I think that the failure to address it properly, might have normalized the action to kids that are not medicated.
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Post by toshtego on Mar 6, 2024 21:11:00 GMT -5
Back in the early 1970s I knew an officer in a small town in northern California used to carry a Johnson Rifle in the trunk of his cruiser. He showed it to me once. The only time I have seen one. Interesting rifle. I liked how the magazine can be fed without opening the breech. I guess he wasn't taking chances of being out gunned. His side arm on duty was a Browning Hi-Power at a time when revolvers were standard. |
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