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Post by trailboss on May 27, 2024 20:57:06 GMT -5
I was in Sf and Berkeley in the late '60s and 1970. Never once did I see anyone spit on any soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine. The standard protocol was to hand them a beer and maybe a doobie. I think the spitting thing is propaganda by certain right wing elements seeking to divide us. I read it on the internets so it must be true.😉 My dad was always looking for trouble, if trouble came his way he met it head on. I remember meeting him on the tarmac in Wichita… it was like the iconoc picture of the same on the net. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 27, 2024 21:37:26 GMT -5
My dad was too too young for WW1 and too old for WW2. My mother's oldest brother was the chief engineer on the Enterprise at the end of the war. Don't know his rank then but he retired in 55 as an admiral. 1 of her brothers was in the navy and another worked at the Brooklyn Shipyard. The youngest that I was closest too was in the Merchant Marine he saw combat and got a couple of medals. None of them ever talked about it at all. All I ever heard was from my Scout troop leaders talking around the Coleman lantern at night while they accused each other about who put their socks in the coffee pot. (large, truncated cone shaped black steel with white spots that stayed on the fire all weekend, Friday night through Sunday afternoon.) Anyway, three of the six were at the Battle of the Bulge, one was the commander of a tank battalion. Another one fought from Africa through Italy. They didn't talk about the killing, but about stuff I thought was silly at the time. When I was a kid I mostly heard about the shortages, coupon books and rationing. My mom worked in a refrigerator factory and my dad drove an oil field equipment truck. It was bad. I understand that much. But we came out of it a better nation. I can't judge the following wars effect on society, too close to it.
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Post by toshtego on May 28, 2024 9:16:59 GMT -5
I was in Sf and Berkeley in the late '60s and 1970. Never once did I see anyone spit on any soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine. The standard protocol was to hand them a beer and maybe a doobie. I think the spitting thing is propaganda by certain right wing elements seeking to divide us. It's easy to find something divisive. Hell, these days everything is divisive. I try to avoid those who practice this technique. On both sides. |
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Post by Darin on May 28, 2024 10:52:22 GMT -5
Back in the early 90's, I had the opportunity to fire an M2 .50 cal mounted on a hummer. My target was an old jeep and it shredded it like cabbage.
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Post by Gandalf on Jun 1, 2024 18:59:37 GMT -5
A BAR sounds fun. I'd like to try a Thompson, an Uzi and maybe an MP5.
An M1_Garand (semi-auto) would be fun too.
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Post by Gandalf on Jun 1, 2024 19:02:03 GMT -5
Or a B24 Bomber turret gun, like my uncle manned in Italy in WW2.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 1, 2024 22:54:54 GMT -5
Or a B24 Bomber turret gun, like my uncle manned in Italy in WW2. Oh well, if it's tax deductible.... |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jun 2, 2024 2:47:37 GMT -5
It is free if you are Ukrainian.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 2, 2024 11:05:08 GMT -5
Yeah… full auto 50 cal MG, pretty expensive… twins?
Don’t even want to think about paying that tab.
Sure looks like fun though.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 2, 2024 12:38:28 GMT -5
With an average rate of fire and the cheapest 50 ammo I could find one minute is 4800 rounds for the 2 guns, $19,600.
How do you afford that without taxpayers money?
103 years old.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 2, 2024 12:52:19 GMT -5
With an average rate of fire and the cheapest 50 ammo I could find one minute is 4800 rounds for the 2 guns, $19,600. How do you afford that without taxpayers money? 103 years old. And I imagine the ammo you are required to shoot, is more expensive than the cheapest you can find. Add tracers…😳 |
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Post by toshtego on Jun 2, 2024 13:45:49 GMT -5
Which is why I am sticking to the BAR and maybe the Thompson or the M2 Grease Gun.
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Post by toshtego on Jun 2, 2024 13:47:13 GMT -5
A BAR sounds fun. I'd like to try a Thompson, an Uzi and maybe an MP5. An M1_Garand (semi-auto) would be fun too. I had a Garand and sure loved it. Accurate and easy to shoot. Heavy but that is to be expected. I even have five round clips for it which make it a legal hunting rifle. |
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Post by urbino on Jun 2, 2024 15:50:53 GMT -5
With an average rate of fire and the cheapest 50 ammo I could find one minute is 4800 rounds for the 2 guns, $19,600. How do you afford that without taxpayers money? 103 years old. Lotta billionaires, these days. |
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Post by toshtego on Jun 2, 2024 20:07:20 GMT -5
With an average rate of fire and the cheapest 50 ammo I could find one minute is 4800 rounds for the 2 guns, $19,600. How do you afford that without taxpayers money? 103 years old. Lotta billionaires, these days. Too many. However, let us not go into that here. |
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Post by JimK on Jun 3, 2024 10:09:09 GMT -5
I've seen two real, live, honest-to-goodness Gatling guns in operation, I might add. Now THAT was cool!
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Post by toshtego on Jun 3, 2024 12:20:00 GMT -5
I've seen two real, live, honest-to-goodness Gatling guns in operation, I might add. Now THAT was cool! I can imagine it was. As far as a I know the last time we used them in battle was during the Spanish War. A Gattling Battery in support of the asssualt on Kettle Hill (aka San Juan Hill). I believe they were .30-40 Krag but might have been the earlier .45-70. Does anyone recall? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 12:41:15 GMT -5
I've seen two real, live, honest-to-goodness Gatling guns in operation, I might add. Now THAT was cool! I can imagine it was. As far as a I know the last time we used them in battle was during the Spanish War. A Gattling Battery in support of the asssualt on Kettle Hill (aka San Juan Hill). I believe they were .30-40 Krag but might have been the earlier .45-70. Does anyone recall? TR was the most impressive thing there and got MoH for it. They used to have a pair of brass Gatling Guns in Houston zoo and all the kids would play on them if they were in the shade. Nothing like summer sun to keep kids off brass. The most I've seen one fire was the movie "War Wagon" Depending on how fast you crank, the rate of fire is 200 to 600 RPM. I can reload 45-70 for 50¢ each. If I can get large rifle primers. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 12:47:28 GMT -5
Lest we forget, guns don't have souls. The Gatling was used against striking miners in Colorado and West Virginia. But you can trust the government.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 12:59:32 GMT -5
I've seen two real, live, honest-to-goodness Gatling guns in operation, I might add. Now THAT was cool! I can imagine it was. As far as a I know the last time we used them in battle was during the Spanish War. A Gattling Battery in support of the asssualt on Kettle Hill (aka San Juan Hill). I believe they were .30-40 Krag but might have been the earlier .45-70. Does anyone recall? "We were exposed to the Spanish fire, but there was very little because just before we started, why, the Gatling guns opened up at the bottom of the hill, and everybody yelled, "The Gatlings! The Gatlings!" and away we went. The Gatlings just enfiladed the top of those trenches. We'd never have been able to take Kettle Hill if it hadn't been for Parker's Gatling guns." |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 13:06:53 GMT -5
The Gatlings were the most effective, and we also had Potato Diggers, 1895 Colt machine guns too. We still use Gatlings, but they electric driven.
The GAU-8/A Avenger is a particularly nasty version.
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Post by toshtego on Jun 3, 2024 13:27:36 GMT -5
I can imagine it was. As far as a I know the last time we used them in battle was during the Spanish War. A Gattling Battery in support of the asssualt on Kettle Hill (aka San Juan Hill). I believe they were .30-40 Krag but might have been the earlier .45-70. Does anyone recall? TR was the most impressive thing there and got MoH for it. They used to have a pair of brass Gatling Guns in Houston zoo and all the kids would play on them if they were in the shade. Nothing like summer sun to keep kids off brass. The most I've seen one fire was the movie "War Wagon" Depending on how fast you crank, the rate of fire is 200 to 600 RPM. I can reload 45-70 for 50¢ each. If I can get large rifle primers. Let us not forget "Fighting Joe Wheeler" and that Pershing fellow. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 14:17:25 GMT -5
Yep, in my recent research, it comes up that the Gatling was used for evil more than it was used for good. Depending on where you stand on massacring Zulus, miners, draft protesters and and what you consider a "Just War"
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