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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 8:46:52 GMT -5
So, I got my P&C Catalog the other day and in it they had a page dedicated to the Cellar Series, and had info blocks on each one. This is where I found out that Seersucker, Speakeasy and Bourbon Bleu have dark-fired Kentucky in them, which highly interests me. I read Jiminks review on Seersucker and it sounds like the cigar leaf is prominent, which gives me pause, but the other two sound really good. The Bourbon Bleu has a recommended aging time of 15 years, but I think I read somewhere that tobacco wouldn't age in a sealed tin. Is this true? If I decide to age it should I take it out of the tin and seal it in a jar?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 9:15:25 GMT -5
I read somewhere that tobacco wouldn't age in a sealed tin. Is this true? If I decide to age it should I take it out of the tin and seal it in a jar? You might find this helpful Maggie: www.pipesandcigars.com/faq/aging-pipe-tobacco/1818129/If you mostly purchase tins, the process is simpler but has its caveats. If you mostly purchase vacuum-sealed tins (the flat tins with screw threads or need to be popped with a coin), be aware that leaving the tobacco in that tin will allow it to age, but relatively slowly. The relative lack of oxygen in the tins means that most of the fermentation will be anaerobic, according to no less an authority than Greg Pease. The tins used by Cornell & Diehl, G.L. Pease and McClelland tobaccos are not vacuum-sealed, so the oxygen content of the tin will increase aerobic fermentation, followed by anaerobic.
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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 9:22:01 GMT -5
I read somewhere that tobacco wouldn't age in a sealed tin. Is this true? If I decide to age it should I take it out of the tin and seal it in a jar? You might find this helpful Maggie: www.pipesandcigars.com/faq/aging-pipe-tobacco/1818129/If you mostly purchase tins, the process is simpler but has its caveats. If you mostly purchase vacuum-sealed tins (the flat tins with screw threads or need to be popped with a coin), be aware that leaving the tobacco in that tin will allow it to age, but relatively slowly. The relative lack of oxygen in the tins means that most of the fermentation will be anaerobic, according to no less an authority than Greg Pease. The tins used by Cornell & Diehl, G.L. Pease and McClelland tobaccos are not vacuum-sealed, so the oxygen content of the tin will increase aerobic fermentation, followed by anaerobic.
aha! good to know.
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Post by papipeguy on May 24, 2017 10:13:59 GMT -5
That 10-15 year aging blurb is pure marketing hype but to answer your question, if the tins are kept safe in a stable environment they should retain their integrity for many years. With very old tins rust is the bigger culprit in causing harm to the blend.
One of the blends from that series that you would love is King Cake. Absolutely delightful smoke.
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Post by Darin on May 24, 2017 10:15:48 GMT -5
"That 10-15 year aging blurb is pure marketing hype"
Ditto ... nearly ALL tobacco will age well but Va's in particular.
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Post by crapgame on May 24, 2017 10:32:49 GMT -5
Maggie, Those tins will be just fine. I agree that the 15 year aging is hype...but if you can let the tins age a few years,you will be in for a wonderful surprise!
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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 11:15:39 GMT -5
That 10-15 year aging blurb is pure marketing hype but to answer your question, if the tins are kept safe in a stable environment they should retain their integrity for many years. With very old tins rust is the bigger culprit in causing harm to the blend. One of the blends from that series that you would love is King Cake. Absolutely delightful smoke.
I will have to give it a try. My wishlist is a mile long, lol!
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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 11:17:35 GMT -5
"That 10-15 year aging blurb is pure marketing hype" Ditto ... nearly ALL tobacco will age well but Va's in particular.
ah. so what does age do to dark-fired Kentucky?
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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 11:18:43 GMT -5
Maggie, Those tins will be just fine. I agree that the 15 year aging is hype...but if you can let the tins age a few years,you will be in for a wonderful surprise!
looks like I'll have to buy a couple tins for some things -- one for now and one for later, lol.
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Post by Darin on May 24, 2017 11:36:13 GMT -5
Not nearly as much since the sugar content is relatively low. It does mellow out some and also blends in with the other tobacco more over time.
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Post by Lady Margaret on May 24, 2017 11:41:09 GMT -5
Not nearly as much since the sugar content is relatively low. It does mellow out some and also blends in with the other tobacco more over time.
ah, ok.
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Post by trailboss on May 24, 2017 14:05:05 GMT -5
I agree with the hype factor...if you are to take them at their word, then for at least the next 15 years you should be buying the "cellar series" blends if you don't think you will find your expiration date sooner.
Call me a sucker though, I have each blend X 4 from 2014...Chent's cake, Joie De Vivre, and Oak Alley...Seersucker, Speakeasy and Bourbon Bleu are on my list.
For what it's worth, although a lot of well deserved Hoopla is made about how well Virginia's age, Steve Fallon (Pipestud consignments) says that English blends typically command the highest prices...one look at an aged tin of Balkan Sobranie would tend to confirm what he has to say.
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Post by username on May 24, 2017 22:24:59 GMT -5
Well I wonder how much have that english selling is just Ego as people shell out money to chase unicorns.
I agree as english sell better I almost almost out of all the English I had for sale. but For cellarring i prefer aged virginas.
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