jaytex1969
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Post by jaytex1969 on Jun 13, 2017 14:14:56 GMT -5
I have broken down my pipes and cleaned them after each use.
Then I read a post somewhere that indicated this was excessive wear on the connecting parts. The author said they just shoved the pipe cleaner from bit to bowl.
I like to keep 'em clean but not accelerate wear.
Please weigh in on the matter for this FNG.
Thanks.
Jay
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Post by GRUMPY on Jun 13, 2017 14:27:27 GMT -5
I usually only break mine apart once finished with it for the day, if I remember that is. Other than that I only break a pipe down if a problem arises, like poor draw or gurgling and the pipe cleaner wont do the job. Some pipes require cooling off before you can break them down. This is a good reason I like Army or Military mounted pipes. With them you are able to break them down hot or not.
A few pipes require some time drying out before they'll brake down too. A frost free fridge or freezer has aids the removal of excess moisture. But it takes a while.
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Post by daveinlax on Jun 13, 2017 14:28:03 GMT -5
I dissemble mine as little as possible. If the stem is tight or stuck put the pipe in the freezer and before you put the stem back in rub the tenon with a pencil for lubrication.
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Post by stvalentine on Jun 13, 2017 14:36:51 GMT -5
After every smoke because I like to keep my pipes clean. If you wait until it has cooled and have a light hand on them there is no exessive wear on them. After all it´s just puching hard rubber into hard wood... Gunk really accumulates in the shank which you can taste after a while. The longer you wait the more effort it takes to clear out all that gunk. Tenons can get stuck in the shank too so it is much easier to ruin your pipe if you don´t clean it after every smoke. Your milage may vary of course...
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Post by papipeguy on Jun 13, 2017 14:37:58 GMT -5
I run a pipe cleaner through the stem into the bowl when done and then swipe the inside of the bowl. I don't break down my pipe very often. Guess I'm too lazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 14:49:23 GMT -5
As most I always run a cleaner through mine after each smoke and wipe them down and I usually break all of mine down at the end of the month and do a through cleaning and polishing. Although for the last few months I've not done it and they dearly need it.
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Post by Darin on Jun 13, 2017 15:05:22 GMT -5
Same here ... a little alcohol now and then on the pipe cleaner if it seems needed. This routine, and a rotation of pipes, keeps it so that I only break them down every few months.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jun 13, 2017 18:21:01 GMT -5
...I break down quarterly...and after each bowl run the pipe cleaner through...
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Post by danno44 on Jun 13, 2017 18:42:50 GMT -5
Same here ... a little alcohol now and then on the pipe cleaner if it seems needed. This routine, and a rotation of pipes, keeps it so that I only break them down every few months.
Same for me. Cleaner after every smoke and complete breakdown as needed, the pipe tells me either by being sour or restricted draw type things.
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Post by johnlawitzke on Jun 13, 2017 18:57:15 GMT -5
I insert a cleaner when I finish a bowl and leave there while the pipe cools down to absorb any moisture. I take apart and clean with Everclear about every five bowls. I've learned from experience that by the seventh or eighth bowl I can taste the difference if I haven't disassembled and done a thorough cleaning. So, I do so before I have an off tasting bowl.
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jaytex1969
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Post by jaytex1969 on Jun 13, 2017 19:00:05 GMT -5
I take apart and clean with Everclear about every five bowls. Care to detail your process? Thanks. Jay
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Post by trailboss on Jun 13, 2017 19:52:27 GMT -5
Same here ... a little alcohol now and then on the pipe cleaner if it seems needed. This routine, and a rotation of pipes, keeps it so that I only break them down every few months.
Same for me. Cleaner after every smoke and complete breakdown as needed, the pipe tells me either by being sour or restricted draw type things. Pretty close to how I do mine...
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Post by antb on Jun 14, 2017 1:29:37 GMT -5
After every smoke because I like to keep my pipes clean. If you wait until it has cooled and have a light hand on them there is no exessive wear on them. After all it´s just puching hard rubber into hard wood... Gunk really accumulates in the shank which you can taste after a while. The longer you wait the more effort it takes to clear out all that gunk. Tenons can get stuck in the shank too so it is much easier to ruin your pipe if you don´t clean it after every smoke. Your milage may vary of course... I'm with Frank on this one.
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Post by craigmillar on Jun 14, 2017 5:44:33 GMT -5
When the pipe has cooled after every smoke.
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Post by johnlawitzke on Jun 14, 2017 19:01:33 GMT -5
I take apart and clean with Everclear about every five bowls. Care to detail your process? Thanks. Jay Here goes... First a disclaimer... I am an engineer. I am anal both by nature and by training. I bring my engineer nature to pipes and enjoy figuring out the "science" of pipes. The below is my method that I've settled on after 30 years of pipe smoking. YMMV. When I finish a bowl, I insert a standard pipe cleaner and leave it in to absorb moisture while the pipe cools. After the pipe cools, I remove the cleaner, bend it in half and give the bowl a quick wipe after dumping the ash. I also give the pipe a good wipe with a linen napkin. A friend of mine is a pipemaker and he recommended a linen napkin as being just right texture to put a shine on a pipe with affecting the finish. Then, every 5 bowls, I do my full clean. First I check if it's time to do any cake maintenance and, if needed, give the cake a scrape with a pipe knife. In extreme cases, a ream. I pour a little Everclear into a shot glass. You could use any liquor of choice; the higher proof the better. I prefer Everclear because it is flavorless. I can get 151 proof Everclear here in Michigan. I first use Q-tips (cotton swabs; Q-tips is a US brand name). I lightly dip in the Everclear and touch to the side of the shot glass to drain excess liquid. I clean off the face of the tenon with the wet end and then dry with the dry end. I then use Q-tips to clean out the mortise; likewise alternating wet and dry ends until I think I've gotten enough gunk out. I don't want too much Everclear on the Q-tips or cleaners as I don't want it to drip off into the shank and puddle in the bottom of the bowl; not good for the heel cake. Then I use bristle cleaners. I bend over about half an inch on each end of the cleaner to get a little tighter fit. Then, I lightly dip the end of the cleaner in the Everclear and touch against the side of the shot glass to remove any excess. Run the cleaner up and down the shank a few times to scrub. Dip the other end of the bristle cleaner in Everclear and repeat. I'll use typically 2 to 4 bristle cleaners until I'm at most getting a light gray color after use. Then I take a fluffy cleaner. Run it through my fingers to remove excess lint. Dip one end lightly in Everclear and touch to the side of the shot glass. Run it up and down the shank a few times. Reverse and insert the dry end of the fluffy and leave it in the shank to absorb moisture while I clean the stem. For the stem, I run a wet end of a bristle cleaner through the stem starting from the tenon and make sure to stop just before the button to avoid getting alcohol on the outside of the stem (especially vulcanite/ebonite). Reverse and run the dry end of the bristle cleaner through the stem. Note: I do not double over the ends of the cleaner when doing the stem. Do the same thing all over again but with a standard cleaner. Before reinserting the stem, if the pipe has a slightly tight stem, I apply some graphite to the tenon (i.e. I scribble on it with a pencil). If the pipe has a slightly loose stem, I rub some beeswax on the tenon. Once the pipe is back together, I give the whole pipe a good wipe using a linen napkin. If the pipe has a vulcanite/ebonite/cumberland stem, I use Obsidian Oil on it. So, on average, I'll go through 4 bristle, 1 fluffy, and 1 standard pipe cleaner per pipe for my thorough clean. I use BJ Long 6.5" pipe cleaners, but any good quality pipe cleaner will work. -John
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Post by peteguy on Jun 15, 2017 11:26:33 GMT -5
Fluffy pipe cleaner thru the stem after every smoke and a bowl wipe with a bristle pipe cleaner after every smoke. I only break them down when I notice a taste change. Then it is everclear until the shank is clean starting with the little wire cleaners then onto bristle pipe cleaners and then fluffy pipe cleaners to dry. Ream a bit if necessary but more often than not the bristle pipe cleaner after every smoke keeps the cake to a minimum.
I had a pipe that never tasted right until I did a retort. If I buy an estate I now do a retort on it after bringing it up to my standards in the cake and cleaning department.
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Post by jp on Jun 15, 2017 11:48:27 GMT -5
I don't remove the stems very often but I do use a fair amount of pipe cleaners...There'e s slight chance of breaking something every time you do...Some of my pipes won't take a pipe cleaner without taking out the stem but most are drilled pretty well. I actually think pipes taste better if you don't overclean them...I smoke light English blends that burn cleanly.
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Post by jaytex1969 on Jun 21, 2017 2:00:44 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the info.
Can someone define retort, as it relates to pipes?
Thanks.
Jay
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Post by trailboss on Jun 21, 2017 4:44:16 GMT -5
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Post by headrott on Jun 21, 2017 7:39:01 GMT -5
Since I use a 9mm filter, I disassemble the pipe every time I smoke it.
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Post by Zach on Jun 21, 2017 8:24:08 GMT -5
In my opinion and many a pipe restorers' opinion you should not retort your pipes unless you really know what you're doing, and it's like a last resort, do it once a year if your pipe is so dirty it's had 1,000 bowls through it kind of dirty with no cleaning. You're liable to ruin your pipe finish and worse.
It's not just that I'm lazy about it, but cleaning pipes can get exaggerated. I run a cleaner through, dry, after each smoke. Don't break down my pipes until I do a fuller clean with alcohol on a few cleaners and cleaning out the shank and mortise area. I don't alcohol clean my pipes but maybe once a year once they get too much build up and ghosting from the shank/mortise. Running a new dry pipe cleaner through after each smokes largely captures most moisture and prevents it sitting and souring in there. I have some pipes I've been smoking for a few years and honestly still have not cleaned them with any alcohol and they still taste fine. Excessive use of alcohol can turn into a bad thing, raise the grain or possibly help to promote shank fissures or splitting. Just smoke the pipes, clean them when they are actually dirty. You're going to develop your own methods and get 100 different answers, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 0:37:36 GMT -5
After every smoke. I failed to clean my Peterson XL23 one time, and it took 4 times the amount of cleaning it normally does.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jun 30, 2017 0:45:02 GMT -5
Wow!
After reading about all the folks that clean their pipes after every smoke makes me feel like I'm neglecting my briars.
Having acquired several estate pipes, over the last 6 or 8 months, I find myself smoking em and laying em down on the desk when I'm through. If I smoke em again in the next couple of days I'll run a pipe cleaner through em and if it doesn't go all the way into the bowl I'll then remove the stem and clean out the stummel.
After I've got 8 or 10 pipes laying on the desk, I'll wipe out the bowl with folded up paper towel and clean the shank and stem with a pipe cleaner.
So, I guess my "attention to detail" in this matter is lacking to what I'm seeing posted here.
All that being said, none of my pipes look as grungy as when they did when I got em before I refurbed em.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jun 30, 2017 3:43:47 GMT -5
I'll run a pipe cleaner or two through the airway after a smoke then disassemble and clean at the end of a day's use. I'm a big believer that a clean airway is essential to a great smoke, so disassembly is necessary to clean out the mortise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 10:11:00 GMT -5
In my opinion and many a pipe restorers' opinion you should not retort your pipes unless you really know what you're doing, and it's like a last resort, do it once a year if your pipe is so dirty it's had 1,000 bowls through it kind of dirty with no cleaning. You're liable to ruin your pipe finish and worse. It's not just that I'm lazy about it, but cleaning pipes can get exaggerated. I run a cleaner through, dry, after each smoke. Don't break down my pipes until I do a fuller clean with alcohol on a few cleaners and cleaning out the shank and mortise area. I don't alcohol clean my pipes but maybe once a year once they get too much build up and ghosting from the shank/mortise. Running a new dry pipe cleaner through after each smokes largely captures most moisture and prevents it sitting and souring in there. I have some pipes I've been smoking for a few years and honestly still have not cleaned them with any alcohol and they still taste fine. Excessive use of alcohol can turn into a bad thing, raise the grain or possibly help to promote shank fissures or splitting. Just smoke the pipes, clean them when they are actually dirty. You're going to develop your own methods and get 100 different answers, of course. Pretty much what I do.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jun 30, 2017 13:14:53 GMT -5
In my opinion and many a pipe restorers' opinion you should not retort your pipes unless you really know what you're doing, and it's like a last resort, do it once a year if your pipe is so dirty it's had 1,000 bowls through it kind of dirty with no cleaning. You're liable to ruin your pipe finish and worse. It's not just that I'm lazy about it, but cleaning pipes can get exaggerated. I run a cleaner through, dry, after each smoke. Don't break down my pipes until I do a fuller clean with alcohol on a few cleaners and cleaning out the shank and mortise area. I don't alcohol clean my pipes but maybe once a year once they get too much build up and ghosting from the shank/mortise. Running a new dry pipe cleaner through after each smokes largely captures most moisture and prevents it sitting and souring in there. I have some pipes I've been smoking for a few years and honestly still have not cleaned them with any alcohol and they still taste fine. Excessive use of alcohol can turn into a bad thing, raise the grain or possibly help to promote shank fissures or splitting. Just smoke the pipes, clean them when they are actually dirty. You're going to develop your own methods and get 100 different answers, of course. I'm going to respectfully disagree with some of this. In the 45 years that I've been smoking pipes I've never had, nor heard of, cleaning out the airway with alcohol causing splitting or raised grain or any of that. Briar is mighty resistant to absorption and alcohol evaporates quickly. It's best to limit exposure of briar to alcohol, but for other reasons having to do with the gradual leaching of the silicate deposits embedded in the wood that contribute to it's ability to stand up to heat and fire. I'm going to try water cleaning as that's been gaining currency and I'm curious to try it out. Nor has disassembling and reassembling a pipe lead to a loss of fit between the tenon and the mortise in all my years of pipe smoking. But I'm also careful about how I do any maintenance. Properly cleaning out the mortise requires disassembly. One has to exercise care when using a retort, and they're a perfectly fine tool to use in extreme cases of restoring a filthy estate. When an S/A treatment doesn't quite do the job, an alcohol retort may be beneficial. For regular maintenance it's overkill IMHO.
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