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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 20, 2017 9:00:04 GMT -5
Bad Pipe…….. Wet Tobacco……. Smoking too fast….. What’s your excuse?
I’ve found that drying the tobacco, and smoking slower helps quite a bit, but sometimes it still happens.
Please share your thoughts on the subject. (especially you long term, more experienced pipe smokers!)
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jul 20, 2017 9:09:08 GMT -5
Although wet baccy and heavy puffin can definitely lead to or exacerbate tongue bite, most of it, as I've read, has to do with ph levels and such.
There are many remedies for minimizing tongue bite while enjoying a certain blend such as sippin red wine, apple juice, orange juice, etc..., but at the end of the day it's a chemistry thang that affects us all a little differently. (except for ol Iron Tongue JimInks, he'll smoke anything, kinda like Mikey).
For me, the English's and many of the Aro's don't bite, but for some reason almost all of the VaPer's do. So, when I get a hankering for tongue bite, er, uhm, a VaPer, I grab a glass of Pinot Noir and light er up. Pretty amazing how much the red wine actually minimizes or eliminates tongue bite.
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Post by antb on Jul 20, 2017 9:17:01 GMT -5
Only 8 year's experience here, but in my experience:
1. Smoking too fast.
2. Wet tobacco / bowl packed too tight.
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Post by Zach on Jul 20, 2017 9:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by Darin on Jul 20, 2017 10:11:02 GMT -5
For many, it's a body chemistry / pH issue.
I know a guy that can smoke Va/Per's all day but can't handle a little Burley.
Luckily, I don't ever experience this ... what's it feel like?
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jul 20, 2017 10:18:47 GMT -5
For many, it's a body chemistry / pH issue. I know a guy that can smoke Va/Per's all day but can't handle a little Burley. Luckily, I don't ever experience this ... what's it feel like? Great point. With me, it's not so much tongue bite as it is my soft palate and roof of my mouth getting super irritated. As I've stated in previous posts, I err on the side of smoking dry (very dry to some folks standards), pack er light and puff lightly. Not racing at all, regardless most VaPer's bit me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 11:58:52 GMT -5
Smoking Aromatics and puffing too fast.
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Post by peteguy on Jul 20, 2017 13:03:32 GMT -5
Chemistry here - some blends just don't like me. Most of them from Macbaren.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 13:17:10 GMT -5
All of the above, including particular blends/tobacco types. There is no excuse for an English blend to ever bite.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 20, 2017 13:19:43 GMT -5
For many, it's a body chemistry / pH issue. I know a guy that can smoke Va/Per's all day but can't handle a little Burley. Luckily, I don't ever experience this ... what's it feel like? I think that your post is spot on. I properly dry my tobacco, sip it so slow that I can get easily two hours out of a small bowl, and i still get bumps on the roof of my mouth and and tongue, some blemds feel like the skin has burned, feels like a blister where without the blister after the skin over the blister fell off.....always virginia blends, english never, or aromatics (which I don't care for) don't do this either. Predominately burley no problems, and Va-burs less than straight Virginias....but I like Virginia's, go figure... |
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Post by danno44 on Jul 20, 2017 13:46:20 GMT -5
Normally my cadence is my cause of any bite I may get anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 14:24:50 GMT -5
What's my excuse.....too lazy to take the time to dry my damn tobacco, that and it's too dadburn hot out here to smoke!  |
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Post by kraken on Jul 20, 2017 14:46:29 GMT -5
Smoking too fast and too hot. Slowing waaaay down helps. But for me a major culprit is burleys. Especially C&D burleys for whatever reason. Couldn't figure out why everyone loved Pegasus so much before I figured out I was sensitive to them. It's not absolute of course, there are a few burley blends I like. But Virginias and Latakia blends treat me much better.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 20, 2017 15:45:57 GMT -5
With the exception of Latakia, my experience is the opposite...therefore I think that Darin (cobguy) is spot on about body chemistry.
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Post by mikedennison on Jul 20, 2017 16:02:23 GMT -5
I think the body chemistry thing is on the money. Codger burleys smoke along real easy for me, but let me load up a va/per and its another thing.
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Post by JimInks on Jul 20, 2017 18:04:17 GMT -5
Body chemistry is important. I knew a guy whose mouth broke out in sores every time he tried to smoke a red Virginia. I know somebody who has a similar problem with black cavendish. Some people can't handle burley at all because it gets painful. I'm just glad I don't have those problems.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 20, 2017 18:32:43 GMT -5
I never associated body chemistry before, but in viewing some of your posts, I can recall the first time that I tried Half and Half tobacco. I was only 16 or 17 years old at the time, but after the first few puffs, my tongue started to bleed. Always wondered about that. Now it makes some sense.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jul 20, 2017 19:58:20 GMT -5
I don't experience tongue bite. Maybe it's due to smoking slowly and smoking my tobacco very dry.
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Post by Zach on Jul 20, 2017 20:46:13 GMT -5
I haven't had any tongue bite in years, and aside from the strange body chemistry issues mentioned, have always attributed it to smoking tobaccos too wet and too fast and hot. Tongue bite was taught to me when I started smoking to be caused by scalding your tongue with hot steam from the moisture in your smoke. I still stand by this because I did get tongue bite in my first year or so smoking and don't get any these days. If I feel my tongue tire I switch up blends, slow down, cleanse my palate before smoking again, or take a short break. My grandpa once told me something about if your mouth is sensitive to keep smoking more. LOL was more along the lines of "You don't want to take breaks from smoking or your mouth will get sensitive again."
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jul 20, 2017 23:13:45 GMT -5
Tonight's a perfect example of ph/chemistry.
Just got home from a going away party for one of my neighbors, a great young man that is a Lt. Col. in the USAF, getting stationed @ the Pentagon.
Anyway, I've been smoking cigars this evening and drinking beer. Got home and had a wonderful bowl of aged Margate. It was wonderful.
For my next bowl I loaded up a bowl of Natural Dutch Cavendish, a blend that I've smoked half a dozen times and enjoy very much. But for what ever reason it lit me up, unfortunately not in a good way. The soft palate of my mouth is on fire and it has broken out in dozens of tender bumps, almost like when my allergies get really bad. So after 4 or 5 easy puffs I had to sit it down.
Don't know why, but tonight's not the night for this pipe. Might be because I've been smoking cigars or the fact that I'm drinking beer, dunno.
Welp, guess I'll load up a bowl of FM or some other mellow English and finish my corona.
By the way, the baccy was dry (the way I like it) , it was packed light and I was slow rollin like I always do.
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Post by kraken on Jul 21, 2017 0:00:37 GMT -5
A good question might be wether practicing good technique can overcome the body chemistry thing? I'm new enough to this that I'm sure my technique is to blame often enough. But for now I have a much harder time taming burley. It will be interesting to see if that changes several years from now.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jul 21, 2017 0:03:28 GMT -5
Ahhhhhh
That's the ticket....
Half way through a wonderful bowl of Frog Morton in my designated FM Briar, a Key Club Poker.
Nary a sign of tongue bite.
Put me in the Chemistry Camp.
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Post by craigmillar on Jul 21, 2017 9:03:18 GMT -5
Any blend heavy on Virginia burns never have the problem with Burleys.English or Irish blends.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 21, 2017 10:46:59 GMT -5
Chemistry here - some blends just don't like me. Most of them from Macbaren. Oh man almost every MacB blend does that to me... |
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