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Post by crapgame on Jul 21, 2017 10:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by sparks on Jul 21, 2017 10:31:32 GMT -5
Repulsive. I have no words.
While they may not be able to be prosecuted in criminal court, there is likely a civil action for negligence here.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 21, 2017 10:38:23 GMT -5
Justin, I hope there is some way these scumbags are held accountable for their actions or lack of actions...SICK!
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Post by danno44 on Jul 21, 2017 10:38:57 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting. All to frequent you read/see stuff like this. People in danger or in need, and folks would rather video it than help another human (or animal). I know it can be dangerous to try and save a drowning victim if your not trained or have equipment to make sure the person helping is safe, but to do nothing besides making a video and mocking commentary shows how parts of society are breaking down. I won't expound further because of forum rules....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:52:23 GMT -5
Disgusting, the parent and the these idiots should be held accountable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 11:05:20 GMT -5
Despicable! To say the least. For crimes like this and it is a crime, a crime against humanity, they all should be weighted down and shoved in a pool while on video and given the same treatment the gave out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by puffy on Jul 21, 2017 12:18:22 GMT -5
A psychologist once told me that some people don't have the ability to care.She then told me that such people are dangerous.The more I see and hear these days the more I believe she was right on.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jul 21, 2017 12:33:18 GMT -5
Won't get in trouble, Won't get in trouble, Won't get in trouble, Kil em, Kill em , Kill em.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:36:11 GMT -5
I bet the kids will catch enough flack over it, that they will react differently next time an emergency happens in front of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 13:24:44 GMT -5
I feel this way reading 99% of the news. As an ancient history person, I'm convinced that the idea of "progress" is limited to technology only. I really don't see any kind of overall human development on moral or ethical scales. :-(
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2017 14:11:38 GMT -5
I feel this way reading 99% of the news. As an ancient history person, I'm convinced that the idea of "progress" is limited to technology only. I really don't see any kind of overall human development on moral or ethical scales. :-( Agreed. People haven't changed in 50000 years. I have read many first hand accounts of people in remote African tribes who laugh at their neighbor who is being eaten by a leopard. Everything these days is "moral equivalency, or relativism, but without a moral standard. Christianity is seemingly at a low point in the USA at this time. I have read that this country only became great because of the united belief in God's rules. If everyone decides that what they think is right is the law for them, they will be ungovernable.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 21, 2017 15:28:19 GMT -5
I feel this way reading 99% of the news. As an ancient history person, I'm convinced that the idea of "progress" is limited to technology only. I really don't see any kind of overall human development on moral or ethical scales. :-( If anything I see regress!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 15:41:38 GMT -5
I feel this way reading 99% of the news. As an ancient history person, I'm convinced that the idea of "progress" is limited to technology only. I really don't see any kind of overall human development on moral or ethical scales. :-( Agreed. People haven't changed in 50000 years. I have read many first hand accounts of people in remote African tribes who laugh at their neighbor who is being eaten by a leopard. Everything these days is "moral equivalency, or relativism, but without a moral standard. Christianity is seemingly at a low point in the USA at this time. I have read that this country only became great because of the united belief in God's rules. If everyone decides that what they think is right is the law for them, they will be ungovernable. I don't want to jump down the rabbit hole of religion discussion, but I think one problem is that everyone has different ideas about what it means to be a Christian, and almost none of them have anything to do with the actual teachings of Jesus. As for relativism, it was an important point to make and is useful in a lot of situations to help understand cultural differences - but like so much in the world, when taken to an extreme it becomes a force of evil.
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Post by Artistik on Jul 21, 2017 15:46:49 GMT -5
Ridiculous.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 21, 2017 15:53:36 GMT -5
Which is exactly why I carry a gun pretty much everywhere I go. These useless bags o' turds would just as soon snicker and film my demise if one of them decided to stomp my head against the curb.
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Post by craigmillar on Jul 21, 2017 16:20:13 GMT -5
They have a law in Denmark where parents are responsible financially for any crime committed by their kids.and there have been cases wre the parents lost everything. I firmly believe all of this we see today is parents have given up raising their children properly.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2017 17:00:50 GMT -5
Agreed. People haven't changed in 50000 years. I have read many first hand accounts of people in remote African tribes who laugh at their neighbor who is being eaten by a leopard. Everything these days is "moral equivalency, or relativism, but without a moral standard. Christianity is seemingly at a low point in the USA at this time. I have read that this country only became great because of the united belief in God's rules. If everyone decides that what they think is right is the law for them, they will be ungovernable. I don't want to jump down the rabbit hole of religion discussion, but I think one problem is that everyone has different ideas about what it means to be a Christian, and almost none of them have anything to do with the actual teachings of Jesus. As for relativism, it was an important point to make and is useful in a lot of situations to help understand cultural differences - but like so much in the world, when taken to an extreme it becomes a force of evil. I am not singling out Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zorasterism or what have you teach you how to behave in society and how to treat your fellow man. Even Voodoo has moral principles against killing women and children and watching someone drown without lifting a finger to help. People need some kind of moral guidance and a family that cares enough to instill it in them. Without the proper guidance, there's a hole in each of us that will be filled with something, good or bad.
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Post by puffy on Jul 21, 2017 17:22:08 GMT -5
I don't usually go out after dark.A few nights ago I went because wife was out of smokes.I mentioned to a young fella behind the register that I felt a bit nervous out after dark.He told me that if I saw anything in the parking lot that didn't look safe come back in the store.Then he showed me a button.He said if I push this the police will be here in two minutes.Shortly after that they put cameras in the parking lot..The wife knows now not to run out of smokes after dark..They're trying to pass a law now here in N.Carolina that anyone can carry without a permit.I don't know yet if it will get passed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 17:31:52 GMT -5
I don't want to jump down the rabbit hole of religion discussion, but I think one problem is that everyone has different ideas about what it means to be a Christian, and almost none of them have anything to do with the actual teachings of Jesus. As for relativism, it was an important point to make and is useful in a lot of situations to help understand cultural differences - but like so much in the world, when taken to an extreme it becomes a force of evil. I am not singling out Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zorasterism or what have you teach you how to behave in society and how to treat your fellow man. Even Voodoo has moral principles against killing women and children and watching someone drown without lifting a finger to help. People need some kind of moral guidance and a family that cares enough to instill it in them. Without the proper guidance, there's a hole in each of us that will be filled with something, good or bad. Agreed - even though they all have moral codes, I guess in all religions there will be some way for people to pervert the central message and teachings.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 21, 2017 17:33:16 GMT -5
I don't want to jump down the rabbit hole of religion discussion, but I think one problem is that everyone has different ideas about what it means to be a Christian, and almost none of them have anything to do with the actual teachings of Jesus. As for relativism, it was an important point to make and is useful in a lot of situations to help understand cultural differences - but like so much in the world, when taken to an extreme it becomes a force of evil. I am not singling out Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zorasterism or what have you teach you how to behave in society and how to treat your fellow man. Even Voodoo has moral principles against killing women and children and watching someone drown without lifting a finger to help. People need some kind of moral guidance and a family that cares enough to instill it in them. Without the proper guidance, there's a hole in each of us that will be filled with something, good or bad. This does not have to a discussion about G_D or religion, but kids nowadays need Good Orderly Direction in their lives and if that comes from a place of worship or a swift kick in the arse so be it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2017 17:35:00 GMT -5
Chico, Crapgame: I believe we are in sync, (but not N'Sync) My moral direction came from the WWII veteran drill instructor leaders and tank commander Scoutmaster, although I was raised in the church.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 21, 2017 18:11:29 GMT -5
Very simple.....Liberal Judges, lawyers, and Politicians!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 19:57:10 GMT -5
Very simple.....Liberal Judges, lawyers, and Politicians!
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Post by sparks on Jul 22, 2017 10:28:38 GMT -5
Very simple.....Liberal Judges, lawyers, and Politicians! We are not going to get into a political or religious discussion here... because as we all know, it's against the rules However, @thatfallsguy, I'm a firm believer that this sort of thinking is part of our problem. The us and them attitude causes more divisiveness than anything else. It's time to stop comparing and blaming everything else on the other side. If the world just made a little better effort to realize that we are all humans and we need to treat each other as we would like to be treated, we would be much better off.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 22, 2017 11:25:07 GMT -5
Very simple.....Liberal Judges, lawyers, and Politicians! We are not going to get into a political or religious discussion here... because as we all know, it's against the rules However, @thatfallsguy, I'm a firm believer that this sort of thinking is part of our problem. The us and them attitude causes more divisiveness than anything else. It's time to stop comparing and blaming everything else on the other side. If the world just made a little better effort to realize that we are all humans and we need to treat each other as we would like to be treated, we would be much better off. So very true Justin. We as a society have grown apart. I remember times as a 7 year old kid throwing mud balls at cars with friends and when some neighbors ladies saw what we were doing, my friends and I were promptly grabbed by our ears and dragged home to our parents. This was also the age in society when any parent on my street could give me a swat on the arse and then call my mom to see if she wanted me home to get another swat or was that punishment enough. This lead to us kids respecting the adults because they not only dragged us home by the ear when needed..they would also clean skinned knees or put ice on bumped noggins.Most of all the parents protected us from each other making sure we didn't bully one another. Even though this sounds too much like a real life "Leave It To Beaver" show, we never got into serious trouble and learned to not only stay out of trouble but to keep each other from getting into serious trouble. I also don't want this going down the road of politics or religion as well.
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