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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 23, 2017 20:33:59 GMT -5
this pipe belonged to my friend's father, who has been gone 20 some years now. Was wondering if anyone could give us information on it.
It says "Richmond London Made" Made in England
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Post by danno44 on Jul 23, 2017 20:45:28 GMT -5
Quick search shows that it is a Sasieni "sub brand//second" pipe.
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Post by Zach on Jul 23, 2017 20:51:56 GMT -5
Yes, a London made "seconds" type brand. Have not seen too many of those. Try searching around about it to see when they were made.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 23, 2017 20:55:16 GMT -5
Richmond London Made was made by John Redman LTD. Richmond was also a sub brand of Sasieni,as Dan indicates.The pipe looks more like a Sasieni though. At least that narrows it down!
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Post by Zach on Jul 23, 2017 20:56:30 GMT -5
Does look like a Sasieni. Should clean up nicely!
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jul 23, 2017 22:55:16 GMT -5
A really helpful site for tracking down this kind of information is: www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/index-en.htmlAccording to pipephil John Redman was a different manufacturer, not related to Sasieni. The "R" on Margaret's pipe tangents the circle, which is consistent with Redman, while the Sasieni Richmond "R" is not in a circle. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 23, 2017 23:12:40 GMT -5
actually, looking at that site both the Redman and the Richmond have a circle around them. It appears, though that the Redmans actually say Redman along with Richmond, so I am leaning toward a Sasieni....
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jul 24, 2017 0:15:40 GMT -5
actually, looking at that site both the Redman and the Richmond have a circle around them. It appears, though that the Redmans actually say Redman along with Richmond, so I am leaning toward a Sasieni.... Top third of the page with the two Richmonds. The Sasieni has an R with no circle, The Redman has an R withing a circle and the R touches the circle as does the R on the pipe you posted. It's a John Redman LTd. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/lettres/le-encercle-lettre.htmlClick on Richmond. Takes you to the same page. Sasieni - no circle, Redman - circle. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-sasieni2.htmlThis is a page devoted to some of the Sasieni 2nds, Sasieni made 3rds, 4ths, 5th, and 6ths. They never wasted a piece of wood, downstreaming from their top 4 Dot grades. In all of the many examples on this page, only 2 use a circle. Most have nothing surrounding the letter, or have a shield shape. It's a Redman. Nice pipe! |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 24, 2017 7:35:40 GMT -5
yeah, I looked again and noticed that the other one actually didn't have a circle around it. Looks like it must be a Redman. Now, where do I go from here?
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Post by peteguy on Jul 24, 2017 10:45:04 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Jul 24, 2017 10:50:30 GMT -5
I know that a stamping does not make a pipe, but every pipe I have that says "London Made" are great smokers! That one looks like it would clean up nicely.
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Post by danno44 on Jul 24, 2017 10:51:28 GMT -5
actually, looking at that site both the Redman and the Richmond have a circle around them. It appears, though that the Redmans actually say Redman along with Richmond, so I am leaning toward a Sasieni.... Top third of the page with the two Richmonds. The Sasieni has an R with no circle, The Redman has an R withing a circle and the R touches the circle as does the R on the pipe you posted. It's a John Redman LTd. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/lettres/le-encercle-lettre.htmlClick on Richmond. Takes you to the same page. Sasieni - no circle, Redman - circle. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-sasieni2.htmlThis is a page devoted to some of the Sasieni 2nds, Sasieni made 3rds, 4ths, 5th, and 6ths. They never wasted a piece of wood, downstreaming from their top 4 Dot grades. In all of the many examples on this page, only 2 use a circle. Most have nothing surrounding the letter, or have a shield shape. It's a Redman. Nice pipe! Great info! Sorry About that Maggie. *Note to myself, research deeper prior to offering information." I usually know better than take the first 2 source materials as gospel, l learned that the hard way on a Civil War forum that consists of historians, authors and folks you see on TV as experts. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 24, 2017 12:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 24, 2017 12:05:50 GMT -5
I know that a stamping does not make a pipe, but every pipe I have that says "London Made" are great smokers! That one looks like it would clean up nicely.
yes, it probably would. don't know if they will want to do that, since this is the way he left it. we'll see.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jul 24, 2017 12:07:14 GMT -5
www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-r4.htmlTop third of the page with the two Richmonds. The Sasieni has an R with no circle, The Redman has an R withing a circle and the R touches the circle as does the R on the pipe you posted. It's a John Redman LTd. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/lettres/le-encercle-lettre.htmlClick on Richmond. Takes you to the same page. Sasieni - no circle, Redman - circle. www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-sasieni2.htmlThis is a page devoted to some of the Sasieni 2nds, Sasieni made 3rds, 4ths, 5th, and 6ths. They never wasted a piece of wood, downstreaming from their top 4 Dot grades. In all of the many examples on this page, only 2 use a circle. Most have nothing surrounding the letter, or have a shield shape. It's a Redman. Nice pipe! Great info! Sorry About that Maggie. *Note to myself, research deeper prior to offering information." I usually know better than take the first 2 source materials as gospel, l learned that the hard way on a Civil War forum that consists of historians, authors and folks you see on TV as experts.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 25, 2017 10:23:56 GMT -5
I know that a stamping does not make a pipe, but every pipe I have that says "London Made" are great smokers! That one looks like it would clean up nicely. I must remember that! |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jul 25, 2017 11:28:45 GMT -5
I know that a stamping does not make a pipe, but every pipe I have that says "London Made" are great smokers! That one looks like it would clean up nicely. And I'd rather have a good smoking pipe, whoever made it. I know a little bit about Britwood. I have a small collection of Sasieni 4 and 8 Dots. pre-war, and all that sort of thing. They're pretty good pipes, but I like my $2 Brebbia better because the blends I like to smoke taste better in that pipe than 80% of the pipes that I own. And if I had to choose between my highly sought after and collectible Sasieni pipes and that mid market Brebbia, it would be the Brebbia. Great smokers are where you find them. |
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Post by Darin on Jul 25, 2017 11:39:15 GMT -5
That's what we crusty prospectors say about gold!
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