Is vaping bad for lungs

Good for lungs?? No.

Suggestion?? Smoke a pipe!

Who knows what kind of chemicals they put in those things! I wouldn't want to be breathing in that stuff!

Vaping liquids contain solvents to help flavorings dissolve into them. When heated in an e-cigarette, at least one commonly used solvent transformed into something worrisome: carbonyls (Kar-boh-NEELS), a 2014 study showed. These carbonyls included formaldehyde and other compounds that are known or suspected of causing cancer.
A team of chemists and engineers who analyzed the flavorings and other chemicals in 30 e-cigarette solutions found s everal of the chemicals, such as benzaldehyde (Benz-AL-duh-hide) can irritate the lungs.

Figuring out whether vaping is good or bad (probably somewhere in between) and why that's the case, is why there is the much-maligned, but desperately needed, FDA and similar agencies in other countries.

As is the norm, the answers won't come quickly, easily, or cheaply. I have no interest in the practice, so I can wait...

From a totally non-scientific observation> My wife and I both smoke cigarettes,
and at least once a week we have to scrub,yes scrub, the walls in our back room.
That is where we smoke the most and with normal humidity we have noticed tar
streaks running down the walls.Now,if our lungs contain an equivalent amount of
tar and we introduce an increased amount of humidity all that tar will end up
in a puddle of sorts in the bottom of our lungs.So for us we have decided/determined
that vaping is a dangerous idea.

Agreed, though you can get CBD oil without PG if desired. I'm not sure the advantage of getting it with PG if it's available without.

Pipes forum here. Just sayin'.

PG is used as a medium to pass flavors and to delute the nicotine along with vegetable glycerin when gaping. For the CBS I think it is more glycerin. Also there are food stuffs and beverages that has PG in it.

As long as a vape juice contains nicotine, it is not safe to burn and inhale in the lungs. Nothing is safe to burn and inhale into your lungs, but nicotine turns into NNN, or Nitrosonornicotine, which is the main carcinogen from tobacco smoke. All tobacco when burned converts Nicotine into NNN. How carcinogenic is NNN? Probably just as carcinogenic as eating burned steak or other meats, but you typically do not inhale burned steak into your lungs 20-30 times a day, all day long.

Yeah, but if the shoe were on the other foot, and the marketing of pipe tobacco were dependent on labelling it as cigarette tobacco, it would have our full support!  On the other hand, cigarettes are evil and pipes are not.   I guess the verdict is still out on vape.

For what it's worth, I will throw my 2 cents in...

I have been a pretty avid vaper for a while now. On and off for years, but heavy over the last few months. Actually kicked nails with vaping. For a while I experimented with making my own ejuice. In the end, it wasn't for me, but I learned some stuff.

Ejuice, in it's most basic for is made up of nicotine, which is generally in a carrier liquid, normally propylene glycol (PG), but it could be vegetable glycerin (VG) as well. Now, aside from flavor, PG and VG are the other two main components of ejuice. In fact, I actually made plain, unflavored ejuice, just to try it. It doesn't taste good.

Propylene glycol is not to be confused with ethylene glycol, which is in antifreeze. You might hear people say vaping contains the same stuff as antifreeze. This is not true. Propylene glycol is a humectant and is used in many things, to include most of your pipe tobacco blends, cigarettes, packaged foods and the like.

As some have mentioned above, the danger in gaping comes from the flavoring. Some use alcohol as a carrier. Most use propylene glycol, but the flavor extracts, particularly the enhancers (tbose designed to bring out sweet, sour, smooth notes, etc) have been know to contain some unpleasant chemicals. I will not pretend to know all of the details here.

In the end, vaping is almost definitely better for you than say, smoking a pack of Camels a day, but as far as being safe and good for you, no, it's still got some harmful stuff in it. Just not as much as your run of the mill cigarettes. I used vaping as a replacement for cigarettes so that I could get past them. I have addiction issues and cold turkey wasn't an option. Trying to quit cigarettes while smoking cigars and pipes didn't work either. In the end, I had to go to straight vaping for a few months to get past cigarettes. Now I'm getting to where I have always wanted to be, just a pipe smoker.

-Jason

Baboo makes an excellent point. Before all this liquid vape crap came about, people were actually buying those $500 Volcano weed vaporizers and vaping tobaccos, too. Yeah, they are really expensive but they do work to vaporize actual tobacco leaf and you can control the exact temperature of the element.

As for using vaporizing to quit smoking cigarettes I never understood that. When I quit smoking cigarettes I went straight to pipe smoking, didn't inhale, and just started pipes full time. There are even many days in which I can barely get in a pipe or two. In 2012 when I fully quit smoking cigs it only took a few good weeks of solid pipesmoking before I saw cigarettes as disgusting reconstituted dried scrap stems and terrible grades of tobacco. Cigarette tobacco is garbage treated with all kinds chemicals, coumarin, extra nicotine, and even flame retardants to make them fire safe. That alone did it for me. Need nicotine? Chew some rope and smoke some Brown Bogie, baby. That reminds me of a good point though, I was a pack a day smoker until I quit and I never even noticed nicotine when I smoked cigarettes for 10 years nearly. It wasn't until I dipped Copenhagen or smoked certain pipe tobaccos that I noticed what nicotine was. Cigarettes never gave me a feeling of nicotine and from a young age I always thought nicotine was just a factor that added to the addiction of smoking cigarettes and didn't know it had a feeling. Which still to this day leads me to believe cigarettes have hardly any nicotine, anyway. It's just more instantly disbursed into the bloodstream when inhaled.

Baboo - any thoughts on making your own vape juice out of pipe tobacco? I thinking this might be an alternative to getting an expensive dry herb vaper, and just using a regular one. I seem to remember reading about people making vape juice out of cigars.

Just found these guys online - they specialize in naturally extracted pipe tobacco and cigar vape juice.  They get a lot of great reviews.  Maybe not as pure and enjoyable as the dry herb route, but certainly cheaper just to dip a toe in the water and see what it's like. www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/category-s/1818.htm

I might order one of their samplers and swipe one of my wife's vapers.  Maybe I'd even be able to use it in the house!