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Post by peteguy on Aug 30, 2017 14:36:44 GMT -5
I actually like a few blends fresh rather than aged and they are hard to get blends. So my question - is there anyway to stop the aging process of a tobacco blend?
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Post by TwelveAMnTX on Aug 30, 2017 14:39:47 GMT -5
I've heard that if you use a vacuum sealer it keeps blends from aging.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 30, 2017 14:53:19 GMT -5
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Post by Matthew on Aug 30, 2017 14:54:59 GMT -5
I would try freezing it.
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Post by puffy on Aug 30, 2017 15:07:17 GMT -5
I got some tobacco in a trade once that was supposed to have been vacuum sealed.It was dry as a bone.I don't know if it wasn't completely sealed or what the problem was.That's been my only experience with vacuum sealed tobacco.
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Post by TwelveAMnTX on Aug 30, 2017 15:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by Darin on Aug 30, 2017 16:07:35 GMT -5
Interesting ... out of curiosity, which blends are these?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 17:04:39 GMT -5
I have discovered that smoking it stops the aging process. Sorry Pete. I had to go there.
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Post by peteguy on Aug 30, 2017 17:14:45 GMT -5
Stonehaven and the pre-factory made Anni Kake are the two I wish I could stop the aging process on.
Thanks for the replies and a couple of ideas fosho.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 17:23:45 GMT -5
Read this question answered by Greg Pease on another forum, in regard to freezing:
From "Ask G.L. Pease" 2/26/13
From Bob: I realize this might be an oddity, but here goes: A very few tobacco blends that I love are actually better, to me, when they’re younger. Penzance, for example, has an oriental zing that disappears after a couple of years in the tin. But I’m a stockpiler. And I hate thinking that the qualities I love in some blends are going to simply vanish when I open some of my tins 10-20 years from now. So I’m wondering: Is there any way to dramatically slow the effects of aging on tinned blends? Since heat speeds the effect, would refrigeration slow them? And would screw-on/open-with-a-coin tins retain their seal if actually refrigerated over time? Thanks!
A: Cold storage will certainly slow down the chemical and organic processes that take place as a tobacco ages. It’s not likely to grind to a halt, but it’s probable that keeping tobacco close to, but above the freezing point, will cause it to retain some of its youthful attributes for a longer period. Freezing would slow things down still further, but the damage to the structure of the leaf might affect the its smoking characteristics in ways that we won’t like. Additionally, depending on what you prefer about these young tobaccos, you may find that storing with plenty of additional air space may be to your advantage. Regarding the seal on those tins, it’s hard to say. Cooler temperatures, of course, will increase the vacuum slightly, but it will also make the seal less pliable, and could result in early failure.
Unfortunately, there’s no way to stop the hands of time. Your best bet is to enjoy the young tobaccos for as long as they are available, and hope for the best with whatever you put into cold storage.
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Post by peteguy on Aug 30, 2017 17:30:53 GMT -5
Great find Don - thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 17:38:35 GMT -5
The fresher Carter Hall is the better and I've found that pouches purchased from etailer with high turnover fit this to a tee.
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Post by papipeguy on Aug 30, 2017 17:39:51 GMT -5
I'm with Don. Smoke it all asap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 22:55:44 GMT -5
I have discovered that smoking it stops the aging process. Sorry Pete. I had to go there. 💩🤡💩🤡 Good thing you went there before I did |
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Post by sparks on Aug 31, 2017 7:16:48 GMT -5
I would say vacuum sealing is the best bet. There are two types of fermentation that will occur with tobacco. Anaerobic and aerobic. Aerobic (oxygen fueled) fermentation is going to be more active and create the most noticeable change in tobacco. Anaerobic fermentation will still occur, but will be much slower and less noticeable in the long run.
If you take the oxygen out of your tobacco, you will significantly slow the aging process.
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Post by Zach on Aug 31, 2017 7:41:54 GMT -5
Justin just beat me to it. Tobacco ages anaerobic even without oxygen ( which is what you get in any vacuum sealed tins that are years old) so the best bet is a combination of getting the temperature down and also depleting all the oxygen to stop aging. Get a really high quality vacuum sealer and then pack all of it into a deep freezer.
I had the original G.L. Pease Stonehenge last summer that had been stored in a tightly sealed vacuum bag situation and it was really juicy and wet but had still definitely been aged. Hope a mixture of these solutions helps. There are a few mixtures that even though I really like them fresh, I try to look at it as getting the best of both worlds. I can smoke what I can when it's fairly fresh but I get it smoother and aged when I don't make it to the stuff that aging until later on. At least I still have the blend and won't run out is how I look at it.
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