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Post by tcam on Sept 10, 2017 22:22:28 GMT -5
Hi folks,
I am new here and was wondering if there was a good non aromatic tobacco that has litte younger bite. I know technique is important and I think I have that down. Also, what is a good $20-$80 dollar starter pipe I'm not interested in estates or do you think I should spend more?
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Ben Gardner
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 22:29:02 GMT -5
Smokingpipes.com has Rossi pipes in the 40$ range, I would suggest something that I love, The Rossi Vittoria 8320 or similar. Great feel. Great from first smoke. They also have a new line of pipes in the 30-40 range I am looking at www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/p-piazzolla/As to non-aro tobaccos, I was gifted some Five Brothers that totally rocks. Though not in bulk, the pouch price is about the same as other bulks. Also, Carter Hall. Not an aro, but does have some flavor. I have had some nice non-aros in the higher range, but the ones I just mention are all day smokers for me PS - Welcome, Ben |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 22:31:14 GMT -5
Ooops, you can also get a Missouri Meerschaum Hard Maple for less than ten. I just had my third smoke in one and it is fast becoming an old friend
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Post by Yohanan on Sept 11, 2017 16:34:51 GMT -5
Hi folks, I am new here and was wondering if there was a good non aromatic tobacco that has litte younger bite. I know technique is important and I think I have that down. Also, what is a good $20-$80 dollar starter pipe I'm not interested in estates or do you think I should spend more? Thanks, Ben Gardner Hello Ben, and Welcome to the Forum!!!  |
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Sept 11, 2017 19:42:26 GMT -5
...welcome from SE Tennessee...Enjoy the Patch!
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Post by peteguy on Sept 11, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -5
McClelland 5100 would be my suggestion. Very sweet and mild straight VA. I guess it could bite if you freight trained it but then any tobacco can bite if you smoke it fast. Prince Albert is a burley based non aro-ish otc blend. As for pipes, I cant help much because estates is the way to go when starting out imo. Cobs would be my other choice. Enjoy the ride!
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Post by TwelveAMnTX on Sept 11, 2017 23:40:29 GMT -5
Welcome to the Patch Ben! For a good non-aromatic that doesn't bite, I'd go with Peter Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake or Luxury Twist Flake. They are both available in bulk, LBF is a really good mild Virginia Perique & the LTF is a straight Virginia with a mild sweet topping. I agree with peteguy on McC 5100, that is a good all day smoke. Now @cosmicbobo is right, Five Brothers does rock, but it might be a bit strong in the nic department for ya. Carter Hall won't do ya wrong tho. Rossi pipes are a great value, the Vittoria line(rusticated) & Rubino line(smooth) are good smoking pipes for the money. I have a Rubino 8320 & love it! I smoke Missouri Meerschaum cobs the majority of the time, so my recommendation would be to get one(or a couple at least) to see if you like them. Their hardwoods pipes are real nice too & look nicer to some than the corncob pipes, but I like them both the same. The biggest thing I've found to help keep away tongue bite is getting to know the tobacco. Some tobaccos are a little wetter than you think & that extra moisture can cause bite. I use a piece of printer paper as my tobacco mat & you can see the paper react to the moisture. If it raises up a bit where you put the tobacco, it's got a bit more moisture than you think. I dry some tobaccos out for as little as 10-15 minutes before I smoke them, other tobaccos may need to be dried out longer, like pressed flakes or cakes. I also use balsa filters, which help absorb any excess moisture while smoking. Most people prefer no filters, but I think they help me, so I use them. I hope you find something you'll enjoy for years to come, welcome to the wonderful world of pipe smoking! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 23:59:28 GMT -5
Welcome to the Patch Ben! For a good non-aromatic that doesn't bite, I'd go with Peter Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake or Luxury Twist Flake. They are both available in bulk, LBF is a really good mild Virginia Perique & the LTF is a straight Virginia with a mild sweet topping. I agree with peteguy on McC 5100, that is a good all day smoke. Now @cosmicbobo is right, Five Brothers does rock, but it might be a bit strong in the nic department for ya. Carter Hall won't do ya wrong tho. Rossi pipes are a great value, the Vittoria line(rusticated) & Rubino line(smooth) are good smoking pipes for the money. I have a Rubino 8320 & love it! I smoke Missouri Meerschaum cobs the majority of the time, so my recommendation would be to get one(or a couple at least) to see if you like them. Their hardwoods pipes are real nice too & look nicer to some than the corncob pipes, but I like them both the same. The biggest thing I've found to help keep away tongue bite is getting to know the tobacco. Some tobaccos are a little wetter than you think & that extra moisture can cause bite. I use a piece of printer paper as my tobacco mat & you can see the paper react to the moisture. If it raises up a bit where you put the tobacco, it's got a bit more moisture than you think. I dry some tobaccos out for as little as 10-15 minutes before I smoke them, other tobaccos may need to be dried out longer, like pressed flakes or cakes. I also use balsa filters, which help absorb any excess moisture while smoking. Most people prefer no filters, but I think they help me, so I use them. I hope you find something you'll enjoy for years to come, welcome to the wonderful world of pipe smoking! Only thing to watch on Balsa Filters is that they might break off in the shank if it's not in a pipe made for them. Usually a tweezers will cure that. Brigham makes some Maple Rock Filters. They do not fit many pipes non Brigham and I have noticed no improvement in the smoke. If the Balsa fits you won't lose your wits |
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Post by TwelveAMnTX on Sept 12, 2017 0:13:26 GMT -5
Welcome to the Patch Ben! For a good non-aromatic that doesn't bite, I'd go with Peter Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake or Luxury Twist Flake. They are both available in bulk, LBF is a really good mild Virginia Perique & the LTF is a straight Virginia with a mild sweet topping. I agree with peteguy on McC 5100, that is a good all day smoke. Now @cosmicbobo is right, Five Brothers does rock, but it might be a bit strong in the nic department for ya. Carter Hall won't do ya wrong tho. Rossi pipes are a great value, the Vittoria line(rusticated) & Rubino line(smooth) are good smoking pipes for the money. I have a Rubino 8320 & love it! I smoke Missouri Meerschaum cobs the majority of the time, so my recommendation would be to get one(or a couple at least) to see if you like them. Their hardwoods pipes are real nice too & look nicer to some than the corncob pipes, but I like them both the same. The biggest thing I've found to help keep away tongue bite is getting to know the tobacco. Some tobaccos are a little wetter than you think & that extra moisture can cause bite. I use a piece of printer paper as my tobacco mat & you can see the paper react to the moisture. If it raises up a bit where you put the tobacco, it's got a bit more moisture than you think. I dry some tobaccos out for as little as 10-15 minutes before I smoke them, other tobaccos may need to be dried out longer, like pressed flakes or cakes. I also use balsa filters, which help absorb any excess moisture while smoking. Most people prefer no filters, but I think they help me, so I use them. I hope you find something you'll enjoy for years to come, welcome to the wonderful world of pipe smoking! Only thing to watch on Balsa Filters is that they might break off in the shank if it's not in a pipe made for them. Usually a tweezers will cure that. Brigham makes some Maple Rock Filters. They do not fit many pipes non Brigham and I have noticed no improvement in the smoke. If the Balsa fits you won't lose your wits I guess I should have mentioned I use the 6mm balsa filters in my pipes that accept 6mm filters like the Rubino. They work in the MM cobs & hardwoods too, but ya have to pinch them a bit to make them fit.  |
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Post by haebar on Sept 12, 2017 5:25:13 GMT -5
Welcome to The Briar Patch!
As TwelveAMnTX mentioned, the moisture content of the tobacco is a big factor in avoiding tongue bite. Many tobacco blends are too moist right out of the package. Spread them out as he says and let them air dry for a while. Here in East Tennessee it is humid and it sometimes takes leaving them out overnight to get them dry enough for smoking.
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Post by Zach on Sept 12, 2017 9:10:03 GMT -5
Hi folks, I am new here and was wondering if there was a good non aromatic tobacco that has litte younger bite. I know technique is important and I think I have that down. Also, what is a good $20-$80 dollar starter pipe I'm not interested in estates or do you think I should spend more? Thanks, Ben Gardner Cobs and Falcons for good starter pipes. Also Leonessa Briosa and similar cheap Italian pipes in the $30-80 range are usually excellent. Make sure you are drying out the tobacco until it's just starting to get crispy, it will smoke magnitudes better than wet tobacco, which steams your tongue. Slow doen your smoking and don't keep puffing out clouds of smoke, you want to sip on it and barely keep the tobacco smoldering/lit for best temperature and flavor. Maybe try using a nice Missouri Meerschaum cob with a few packs of filters to cool and filter the moisture from your smokes until you learn how to slow down the smoking cadence. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Sept 12, 2017 10:37:25 GMT -5
Some great advice here for sure.
Beside the fact that learning to smoke a pipe can take a little more effort than one may think, moisture, packing, lighting, puffing, etc... I've found that various blends definitely bite me more than others.
It's a known fact that although really moist tobacco and puffin away like a freight train can cause bite, so can the variations in the chemical make up of what your smoking.
Depending on an individuals ph levels, some blends will be just fine while others will absolutely blister you.
I personally have adopted the practice of letting my tobacco dry considerably before I smoke it. Not to the point where it crumbles to dust, but where it is springy and relatively moisture free. I've found it to be much more flavorful this way and also much more difficult to overpack, being too springy and all.
As for the blends that bite me hard.... Almost every popular VaPer blend that has been highly touted here and on other pipe forums. They blister the roof and soft palate of my mouth as well as my tongue.
The blends that I enjoy the most are English's and Balkan's and hardly ever have one of them bite me. As far as aro's go, I smoke mostly the various peach flavored offerings from Lane and others and have never had one of em bite me.
OTC blends vary for my Bite-O-Meter... Carter Hall and Prince Albert are just fine, Half & Half and Borkum Riff both start nippin right away.
As always, your mileage may vary......
Dino
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:18:32 GMT -5
Firstly, welcome to the patch. I would also note, that some tobaccos that initially seem bitey are in fact nippy and with a slow smoking cadence, will smooth out by mid bowl and often will finish in a very satisfactory manner, that rewards you for hanging in there.
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