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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 19, 2017 20:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:03:00 GMT -5
Thank God everyone was alright. Way cool on the quality responder. there is no thanks big enough for them
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 19, 2017 21:12:26 GMT -5
i was impressed the guy landed so well, he must have a lot of experience. they had been flying over the valley for two hours trying to burn up fuel. our boys are awesome. i love to go up and watch our c130s drill.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:15:00 GMT -5
I landed like that in bed on our honeymoon... ooops
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 19, 2017 21:21:54 GMT -5
Looks like a PA-31 Navajo or, if it has more than four side windows, a Chieftain. A nose scrape and prop strike on both engines isn't gonna be cheap to repair. The engines are probably scrap from the prop strike. When your nose wheel won't lock though, the plane now belongs to the insurance company; you just need to save the passengers. Glad everyone was ok.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 19, 2017 21:21:58 GMT -5
I landed like that in bed on our honeymoon... ooops
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 19, 2017 21:23:44 GMT -5
Looks like a PA-31 Navajo or, if it has more than four side windows, a Chieftain. A nose scrape and prop strike on both engines isn't gonna be cheap to repair. The engines are probably scrap from the prop strike. When your nose wheel won't lock though, the plane now belongs to the insurance company; you just need to save the passengers. Glad everyone was ok.
i believe they said it was a Navajo.
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 19, 2017 21:55:07 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what it looked like. He's going to need about $60,000 for each new engine, if he gets rebuilt or overhauled ones, plus the installation and the nose stike repair. That plane could very well be totaled. If it's the base Navajo, they are currently going from $70,000 to almost $300,000, depending on the hours, condition, avionics and year. Poor guy.
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Post by Matthew on Sept 19, 2017 22:44:32 GMT -5
Glad that everyone came out well.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 20, 2017 7:27:36 GMT -5
not a lot of detail has come out about the situation yet. from what i've gathered they came out of Fredrick, MD and were doing some aerial surveying in WV and were supposed to go back to Fredrick. Now, they were making an emergency landing at CRW because his nose landing gear wouldn't come down. How did he know that if he wasn't trying to land at CRW in the first place??? If they were doing aerial surveying not sure if he's a contractor or it was a company plane. There didn't seem to be any business name, etc on it. I'm sure I'll get all the scuttlebutt eventually, news travels around the base....
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 20, 2017 8:00:01 GMT -5
Quite a few years ago we had a C-5 make an emergency landing at CRW, something I'm sure had the crap scared out of everyone involved, lol (our airport is on top of a mountain with not a lot of runway) My son happened to be involved with the National Guard's Starbase program at the time. I don't think he got to see the landing, but he did get to see the plane sitting on the runway, and he said even across the mountain top it looked BIG (and he was getting to ride on a C130, lol)
This video is NOT from the emergency landing, but it's awesome.
and more impressive, the take off of a huge plane on a tiny runway, lol
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 20, 2017 8:02:27 GMT -5
It's kinda funny, but I change my desktop background every few days, and the one I currently had up was a pic of the cockpit of my Navajo I fly in Flight Simulator. It's the earliest model, neither pressurized nor the stretched version (that's the Chieftain) and one of the most numerous. Here's the cockpit:  See those three round green lights in a triangle in front of the right side of the pilot's yoke? They're saying all three of the wheels are locked down, because I'm on the ground for the pic. The lever to raise the gear, with the round silver handle, is adjacent on the left. I suspect when he took off and went to raise the gear, the red light above the green (wheels are in transition) never went out. He probably worked on it for a while, trying to get the damn front light to turn green, so he could safely land. Down and locked is obviously more important than up and stowed. When he decided he couldn't get it green, he had to make the difficult decision to give up, and land with no nose wheel. Your airport will have been the one he was near when he made that decision. He would have had no reason to try and lower a properly stowed gear when he was flying over you guys; I suspect it never went up, and that's where he was when he realized he couldn't get it down, and would have to come in on two wheels. He will have landed as slow as he could on the back two, avoided the brakes, and held the nose in the air as long as possible, setting it down only when the nose would no longer fly. Poor guy, but no one was hurt, screw the plane, so he did his job. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 20, 2017 8:06:34 GMT -5
another big bird (I didn't know our airport had a youtube channel, and now I'm addicted, lol)
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 20, 2017 8:10:45 GMT -5
Lady Margaret
Puttin' the O in OCD!
Sorry. Sorry for that.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 20, 2017 8:36:13 GMT -5
ah, but oh so true!
that simulator is neat. In searching for things I discovered that CRW is evidently on a simulator as an "extreme landing" lol.
I was impressed with the guy's landing, he did a beautiful job.
And, just because, a touch-n-go. Evidently touch-n-goes have changed, or everyone does them different than the Marine Corps, because hubby calls this more of a stroll-n-go, lol. The C130s in hubby's unit literally barely touched the runway and took off again, but they were practicing dropping cargo in a hot zone.
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 20, 2017 11:06:12 GMT -5
Combat flying's definitely different. A lot of the things in general and commercial aviation you do for safety just go away.
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 20, 2017 11:23:09 GMT -5
FSX (Flight Simulator 10) is awesome, at least once you fix and upgrade literally everything microsuck did. I mean it's decent once you upgrade the aircraft, textures, terrain, AI aircraft, ATC, weather, literally everything. Lockheed Martin made thier own upgraded version they call Prepar3d, pronouced prepared, that they use for real-world training. It's expensive; one Professional Plus license (the Plus adds combat) costs $2,300. I have almost 2,000 hours in my logbook, in 115 different planes and helos. To put that in perspective, in the real world, once you have 200 hours, you can apply for an instructor's certificate. Here's a quick screenshot of me in a McDonnell Douglas MD500E, over photoreal Puerto Rico. Photoreal terrain is made from aerial photos, so every house and tree is real.  |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Sept 20, 2017 12:34:56 GMT -5
very cool!
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