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Post by haebar on Oct 28, 2017 8:10:39 GMT -5
I have quite a few of these cardboard-sided tins from Sutliff and Hearth & Home. The inside of the cardboard is lined with a foil-like lining. I've had some of these for 3 years and they may have had some time on them before I got them. Should I open these and jar them or should I continue to age them in the tin?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 8:16:31 GMT -5
I'm in the same place. Read approximately three years is about the max for these but don't know? I really don't want to jar them but it may be the path of least resistance. Look forward to others' comments.
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Post by crapgame on Oct 28, 2017 10:10:52 GMT -5
I have FM tins that have been aging since 2004 and they are doing just fine!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 10:30:06 GMT -5
GLP from 2007 and up no issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:14:09 GMT -5
I have never read or heard about longevity issues with these. Just look at those C&D tins that expand and blow up like a balloon over time. There must not be too much air transfer with the outside to hold in that pressure.
I trust these tins way more than all-metal square tins whose seals can become compromised without knowing it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:23:14 GMT -5
Pretty much the same as McClelland's, right? If so, I believe they're designed for aging. I have a 2007 3 Oaks and it's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:48:11 GMT -5
Folks, these are nothing like McClelland, GLP or C&D. They're actually cardboard paper cans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:56:30 GMT -5
Having had some codger blends that are very old the only one that did not come out well was literally in a paper wrapper inside a cardboard box inside cellophane.
One wrapped in wax paper (or oil paper) inside a cardboard box inside cellophane, over fifty years old, was dry but fine.
The foil wrapped ones would be similar to the foil lined box. Have some going on forty-five years that are also fine.
The worst ones (other than the paper lined) were the old lever tops that had tobacco up against coated metal interior. The tobacco is fine, save the parts that got stuck to the sides and bottom.
I believe Rattray's uses the Sutliff type. I would think any expansion due to fermentation would pop the thing like a tube of crescent rolls. It would probably be ready to smoke at that point... or transferred to jar
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Post by JimInks on Oct 28, 2017 14:00:50 GMT -5
Early this year, I opened two five year old tins of H&H blends and the tobacco inside was perfect. I've known three people who opened seven year old tins and had no issues. The silver bottom tins did have some issues, but not the bronze ones. Never had an issue with C&D tins.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 14:04:13 GMT -5
Folks, these are nothing like McClelland, GLP or C&D. They're actually cardboard paper cans. Crap, you're right. C&D are all metal. Sorry about that. Hmmm, Rattrays are all cardboard, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 14:12:37 GMT -5
Folks, these are nothing like McClelland, GLP or C&D. They're actually cardboard paper cans. Crap, you're right. C&D are all metal. Sorry about that. Hmmm, Rattrays are all cardboard, right? Yeah, I have a five year old tin of Marlin Flake open now and it was fine when I cracked it, still needs about 20 minutes dry time before loading. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 14:18:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I have a five year old tin of Marlin Flake open now and it was fine when I cracked it, still needs about 20 minutes dry time before loading. I have never had a problem with Rattray either, though I think five to six years is the oldest I have opened. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 14:32:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I have a five year old tin of Marlin Flake open now and it was fine when I cracked it, still needs about 20 minutes dry time before loading. I have never had a problem with Rattray either, though I think five to six years is the oldest I have opened. I hadn't thought about Rattray. Great comparison. I'll just let my H&H tins ride, see what happens down the road. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 14:57:04 GMT -5
Early this year, I opened two five year old tins of H&H blends and the tobacco inside was perfect. I've known three people who opened seven year old tins and had no issues. The silver bottom tins did have some issues, but not the bronze ones. Never had an issue with C&D tins. Thanks Jim. I'm letting my tins ride. |
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Post by crapgame on Oct 28, 2017 15:13:51 GMT -5
i popped a tin of rattray's black mallory that was 14 years old and had no prob what so ever!
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Post by Zach on Oct 28, 2017 15:31:49 GMT -5
Like Jim said, they're good for at least 5-10 years if they are not compromised and stored in a stable cellar temperature.
The tins are not comparable to McClelland's or C&D "real vacuum canned" tins. Sutliff tins also are not vacuum sealed that I know of, and are of course cardboard and not metal tins. They will stay fresh IMO as long as a sealed plastic tub will stay fresh.
My several tins of Rattray's 100g tins over the past few years are all metal tins as well so also stay fresh for 20+ years without a pressure compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 15:33:55 GMT -5
Clarification I am talking 8oz card board foil lined GLP tins. 2oz tins are for kids.  |
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Post by Zach on Oct 28, 2017 15:37:28 GMT -5
Clarification I am talking 8oz card board foil lined GLP tins. 2oz tins are for kids. You have cardboard tins of GLP? How old are those? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 16:45:22 GMT -5
 Here is a 2009.
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Post by Zach on Oct 28, 2017 17:00:12 GMT -5
The side of that is not metal like any other C&D tin? Sutliffs tins are cardboard, you can literally smash the tin down squeezing it. As far as I know speaking with Greg, they've only ever tinned in C&D tins since sometime in the early 2000's, and Greg even tinned in the 80's with their tins at the shop Greg worked at. I have several of those size tins you pictured, mine are all aluminum and I've never seen a GLP cardboard tin.
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Post by haebar on Oct 28, 2017 17:11:14 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your input. Considering what I've heard here, I will let mine stay in the can until I get ready to smoke them.
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