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Post by JimInks on Nov 22, 2017 18:06:23 GMT -5
Most of us old enough to remember it are reminded of it every Nov. 22. I am curious at this point how many believe it was Oswald acting alone or a conspiracy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 18:17:42 GMT -5
LHO was working on another conspiracy and got caught in this. I could go on, and usually do, but here are the players.
Johnny Roselli
Ruby did know Oswald
CIA
FBI
Chicago Outfit, where Ruby was once a bagman for Big Al and Momo G
Traficante
Marcello
Roscoe White faked the backyard pic of LHO, was Badge Man and killed Tippet
LBJ
Mac Wallace
The reason that we have no sure answer is you had a clusterF of factions all involved overlapping, but not all working together.
Also, Milteer wanted him dead in Tampa and was in Dallas that day.
Pic of Poppy Bush outside the book depository
And Chris Matthews says anyone who thinks there was a conspiracy (80% America) are nutbags. I may be a nutbag, but I am not wrong on this. Roger Stone finally said what I have been saying for years. It was all of them
Not that I have an opinion, mind you
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 19:00:06 GMT -5
I was a toddler, my father still in the USAF when JFK was assassinated. I'm also a former Army 19 Delta cavalry scout and expert marksman. Perhaps Monday morning quarterbacking; however, in my mind, there's no way Oswald could have fired the shots from the weapon confiscated and later sited in the Warren Commission Report with the precision he's given credit - Nobody could.
Second, JFK's own reactions strongly appear to indicate the shots came from multiple sources.
I don't believe Oswald was a lone gunman and doubt we'll ever know the truth at this point.
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Post by zambini on Nov 22, 2017 19:44:55 GMT -5
I wasn't alive back then at all but my humble opinion is that there was a greater effort expended in the cover up than in the assassination itself. Personally, I believe that the theory stating the actual kill shot came from in front of Kennedy's car is the most plausible and that the remaining papers mostly detail the cover up and weren't released mostly to Bush and other old CIA hands' benefit.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 22, 2017 20:19:47 GMT -5
Well,just cause I gotta weigh in on this sometime, I was about three
months old.We had just buried my Father due to Leukemia in September
of that year.So I don't really have any first hand opinion of the
actual shooting.But, I do believe that their are Government workers
that have/are/will add to what ever theories will further cloud the
truth.If LHO was working with others, they either have no idea, or
they were directly involved, both would be extremely embarrassing .
So at this point I believe the conspiracy is to put out as many
conflicting conspiracies as needed to confuse and confound any true
investigation.
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Post by zambini on Nov 23, 2017 0:59:13 GMT -5
So at this point I believe the conspiracy is to put out as many conflicting conspiracies as needed to confuse and confound any true investigation. Sorry to hear about your dad. I can imagine that efforts to feed public and institutional confusion are documented in the unreleased papers. Can you imagine if Bobby Kennedy from the AG's office or from the Senate had pushed to question the Warren Report killing his chance to run for President as a Democrat? You might have ended up abruptly ending the careers of Chief Justice Earl Warren, Dulles at the CIA, and Gerald Ford! LBJ would have been so crippled politically from the start that Hubert Humphries doesn't take on the VP job and George McGovern runs a full campaign in '68 against Nixon. Without the looney '68 Dem nomination process and with the public sympathizing with his response to his daughter's arrest, McGovern could even go on to win; if Nixon had still won and lost Spiro Agnew in '73 then maybe Romney or JJ Rhodes becomes VP and Nixon decides to take his chances with impeachment. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Nov 23, 2017 8:27:14 GMT -5
Sadly in today's society, the word conspiracy has a negative connotation, almost always being associated with one being a delusional paranoid Barney Fife sorta character. Not the nefarious efforts or covert plots of those up to no good.
The sad facts of the the matter are that there were way too many things that transpired during this tragic event, that were not standard protocol or out of the ordinary.
For one man, acting alone, firing this many shots with such relative accuracy, is a bit hard to believe for a somewhat skeptical person like myself.
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Post by puffy on Nov 23, 2017 9:53:31 GMT -5
I have always believed that he was shot from the front.Which means there was more than one shooter...Just an opinion of someone who knows a bit about how things react when they're shot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2017 13:05:35 GMT -5
I have always believed that he was shot from the front.Which means there was more than one shooter...Just an opinion of someone who knows a bit about how things react when they're shot. The JFK papers finally showed there was a shot from the front. In fact, years before, had anyone an HD copy of the banned last episodes of The Men Who Killed Kennedy, that bullet hole shows up in a newsreel. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 23, 2017 13:28:26 GMT -5
As someone else alluded to, there are so many players in the drama, and sadly, forces within the government that may be able to shed more light and produce evidence, that are hell bent on never letting it come to light, that it is unknowable for me. From Joe Kennedy forward, the family was so steeped in corruption, and put themselves in so many compromising situations, that the proverbial chickens came home to roost. People speak of the Kennnedy curse, in a large part, a lot of it was brought upon themselves by the people and circles that they operated in.
And No, I am not saying JFK deserved it.
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Post by duffer on Nov 23, 2017 13:49:29 GMT -5
I agree with the general consensus reflected here - and - I do not wear a tin foil hat!
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 23, 2017 23:45:24 GMT -5
I was 13 years old, in the library of Alexander Hamilton Junior High school. I crumpled. My dad had died 3 years earlier. I still tear up each November 22.
I think it was Satan behind it all.
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Post by mel64us on Jan 29, 2019 11:32:56 GMT -5
I can't help but think it was a conspiracy due to the fact that Bobby was killed before he could be elected.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Jan 29, 2019 11:34:52 GMT -5
Jack was supposedly going to take us out of the war. Tells you about all you need to know.
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Post by kirk13 on Jan 29, 2019 11:53:58 GMT -5
(This is meant to be light hearted and not reflect seriously on the OP)
Watch the episode of Red Dwarf entitled Tikka to Ride (s6e3 I think)
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Post by AJ on Jan 29, 2019 12:07:49 GMT -5
I was 15 when he was murdered. I remember the place, time, and how I felt upon hearing the news. I was stunned and could hardly believe it. President Kennedy had been very popular where I grew up until the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Still there was great sadness throughout the community with most in shock and disbelief. I don’t think anyone that has seen the tapes of that day, and know anything about how object reacts when hit with a high powered slug, believes he was shot only from the rear. There had to have been someone shooting from in front of him. Was there a cover-up during the Warren Commission’s investigation? For me it’s obvious, there was a cover-up. It was when I came to this realization that I also realized our Federal Government was/is corrupt to the core. May God have mercy on this Nation.
AJ
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 29, 2019 12:29:54 GMT -5
(This is meant to be light hearted and not reflect seriously on the OP) Watch the episode of Red Dwarf entitled Tikka to Ride (s6e3 I think) Ah Red Dwarf... You and I will get along grand. |
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Jan 29, 2019 12:31:11 GMT -5
I think Oswald was a patsy.............
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Post by kirk13 on Jan 29, 2019 13:04:02 GMT -5
(This is meant to be light hearted and not reflect seriously on the OP) Watch the episode of Red Dwarf entitled Tikka to Ride (s6e3 I think) Ah Red Dwarf... You and I will get along grand. Well swivel my nipple nuts Mr Legend Sir! More curry sauce on your cornflakes? |
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Post by kxg on Jan 29, 2019 14:05:50 GMT -5
As has been stated, it seems unreal that one man, shooting that rifle, from that distance, could have made those shots with that degree of accuracy. That problem alone leaves me thinking there was another shooter. But, I'm pretty sure we will never know the truth of it all.
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Post by monbla256 on Jan 29, 2019 14:39:21 GMT -5
I was in high school when he was shot and they announced it over the loud speakers in the classrooms. A slow wail rose up from the rooms as students reacted to the news. They let us out early and I remember walking home and how little traffic was on the streets and an erie silence was around me as I walked home. It was one of the few times I saw my father cry. I'll never forget that day as long as I live. As for a conspirancy, if you went to the U. of S. Vietnam you know how it was possible back then and still would be today. 
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Post by libertysmoke on Jan 29, 2019 15:58:22 GMT -5
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Jesse Ventura did a good {easy brk. down} book ... for a start & stab at the truth . 1963 = yr. I was born
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 29, 2019 15:59:56 GMT -5
I was 15 when he was murdered. I remember the place, time, and how I felt upon hearing the news. I was stunned and could hardly believe it. President Kennedy had been very popular where I grew up until the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Still there was great sadness throughout the community with most in shock and disbelief. I don’t think anyone that has seen the tapes of that day, and know anything about how object reacts when hit with a high powered slug, believes he was shot only from the rear. There had to have been someone shooting from in front of him. Was there a cover-up during the Warren Commission’s investigation? For me it’s obvious, there was a cover-up. It was when I came to this realization that I also realized our Federal Government was/is corrupt to the core. May God have mercy on this Nation. AJ I was a little older than AJ and in college...I remember that day as if it was yesterday...walking from class to class on the campus...all the radios had the same thing on...it was like walking in the midst of it...all the crying and looks of disbelief...the endless commentary on TV....and as AJ said knowing a little about how objects react when a high powered slug enters it...how there could be any question in anyones' mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:37:02 GMT -5
If you trust the government as much as I do, you'll trust they're capable of ANYTHING and not to believed about anything.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 29, 2019 17:00:00 GMT -5
 I guarded Jack in the Rotunda. No way could that piece of Italian 💩 rifle in the hands of the greatest shooter be that accurate. It was one of my saddest day in my life.
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I guarded Jack in the Rotunda. No way could that piece of Italian 💩 rifle in the hands of the greatest shooter be that accurate. It was one of my saddest day in my life.