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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 2, 2018 16:49:23 GMT -5
From time to time, as all of us of a certain age have witnessed, a departed brand or variety of tobacco is resurrected by (usually) a maker that had no connection to the original.
Invariably, after sampling a bowl of the new, a thought crosses my mind:
"Not the same, is it?"
I think I might be cheating myself out of an enjoyable smoke by comparing it to the original.
Thoughts?
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Post by herbinedave on Feb 2, 2018 16:59:05 GMT -5
I always wondered if the mowed grass clippings that smelled like hay, smoke as well as the ones from 30 years ago!
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Post by slowroll on Feb 2, 2018 17:20:38 GMT -5
I don't know--if they don't taste like the originals, they don't. If you're looking for the old flavor remembered (Recherché du tobac Perdu?) And it's not, you probably won't like it anyway. At least I don't. I've been mourning the absence of Balkan Sobranie since it went. I just look for something else that satisfies. If I ever found a true replacement, I'd probably smoke nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 18:14:30 GMT -5
Seems to me that the ones bringing the exact brand/label back often do things differently. One example, though not tobacco, was a fave resto got bought out but claimed they kept the recipe for Crawdad Soup. Nowhere close. The chef did admit to me that he put his personal touches on it. Same with the hotel where the famous Hot Brown sandwich in Louisville was created. Totally different.
I said all that to say this:
The Sutliffs that are sold as matches are often close, often better, and just may be a missed enjoyment
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Post by papipeguy on Feb 2, 2018 21:23:33 GMT -5
I try to never compare new iterations to originals. I just take them at face value. I don't believe that any blend can remain the same over decades with natural changes in crops and suppliers.
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 2, 2018 21:57:16 GMT -5
I try to never compare new iterations to originals. I just take them at face value. I don't believe that any blend can remain the same over decades with natural changes in crops and suppliers. intelligent fellow
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Post by zambini on Feb 3, 2018 1:28:14 GMT -5
Seems to me that the ones bringing the exact brand/label back often do things differently. One example, though not tobacco, was a fave resto got bought out but claimed they kept the recipe for Crawdad Soup. Nowhere close. The chef did admit to me that he put his personal touches on it. Same with the hotel where the famous Hot Brown sandwich in Louisville was created. Totally different. I said all that to say this: The Sutliffs that are sold as matches are often close, often better, and just may be a missed enjoyment Don't kill my dreams with regards to the Hot Brown sandwich! While I don't have enough experience to know whether the Sutliff matches are better than the originals, I agree with you that they are good and fine buy for the price.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 2:05:43 GMT -5
Seems to me that the ones bringing the exact brand/label back often do things differently. One example, though not tobacco, was a fave resto got bought out but claimed they kept the recipe for Crawdad Soup. Nowhere close. The chef did admit to me that he put his personal touches on it. Same with the hotel where the famous Hot Brown sandwich in Louisville was created. Totally different. I said all that to say this: The Sutliffs that are sold as matches are often close, often better, and just may be a missed enjoyment Don't kill my dreams with regards to the Hot Brown sandwich! While I don't have enough experience to know whether the Sutliff matches are better than the originals, I agree with you that they are good and fine buy for the price. There are some good original recipes for the Hot Brown. We used to stay at Brown Hotels when in Louisville. Back then it was burgers and fries. I'd give a ton to have an original
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Post by zambini on Feb 3, 2018 2:12:04 GMT -5
Don't kill my dreams with regards to the Hot Brown sandwich! While I don't have enough experience to know whether the Sutliff matches are better than the originals, I agree with you that they are good and fine buy for the price. There are some good original recipes for the Hot Brown. We used to stay at Brown Hotels when in Louisville. Back then it was burgers and fries. I'd give a ton to have an original You'll have to post a tried and true recipe. I've still to try the Hot Brown, the Horse-shoe, the Cinncinati (I'm sure I misspelt that name) Chili, and the Garbage Plate sandwiches. Do the Brown Hotels make a special hamburger?
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Post by Darin on Feb 3, 2018 16:33:15 GMT -5
I try to never compare new iterations to originals. I just take them at face value. I don't believe that any blend can remain the same over decades with natural changes in crops and suppliers. Totally agree. What's that Jack Black song, "This is not the best song in the world ... this is just a tribute."
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