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Post by peteguy on Mar 1, 2018 15:50:46 GMT -5
I mentioned in another thread or maybe it was this one about why no notice or heads on this news. Some of us could have grabbed some stock of the blends we like. It appears some of the community did have notice and were able to stock up. I do expect pipestud to have a continuous supply of listings over the next few years. That is probable a good thing. It is the other vultures who will be spamming reddit, ebay and forums for 2 or 3 times the cost that will get my wrath. Maybe. And what if I or others opened our big yaps? The panic buying of deranged hoarders and secondary market gougers would have descended like a stream of locust and wiped the supply out months ago. If you were a regular customer of McClelland products you had months of extra time to make your purchases. Evidently McClelland asked some tobacconists to inform their loyal customers. Human nature being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks abused that advanced info. I'd like to believe that such abuse wasn't widespread. As for myself, I did buy a few tins of blends that I'd been thinking of trying but hadn't gotten around to doing so. I'm already stocked with what I like. At least you got the chance Jessie. A formal announcement 2 months ago would have given everyone a chance. They could have instructed their vendors to limit sales to 2 tins of any blend until gone or something. They way they leaked it to their friends and vendors makes me want to puke. In fact, I have just now decided to sell my cellar stock for huge profits when the prices start to spike. I hope they enjoy their retirement like a smooth bowl of Mixture 79. I hope you get the picture that their are multiple ways that they could have gone with this. I am just pointing out a few things that seem to be forgotten in this mess. I have my blends I like from them and will still enjoy them. Just not as often as I would have if things had gone down different. Time to move on to better tobacco anyway - Eddie "Freaking" G Robinson !
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 1, 2018 18:11:34 GMT -5
Maybe. And what if I or others opened our big yaps? The panic buying of deranged hoarders and secondary market gougers would have descended like a stream of locust and wiped the supply out months ago. If you were a regular customer of McClelland products you had months of extra time to make your purchases. Evidently McClelland asked some tobacconists to inform their loyal customers. Human nature being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks abused that advanced info. I'd like to believe that such abuse wasn't widespread. As for myself, I did buy a few tins of blends that I'd been thinking of trying but hadn't gotten around to doing so. I'm already stocked with what I like. At least you got the chance Jessie. A formal announcement 2 months ago would have given everyone a chance. They could have instructed their vendors to limit sales to 2 tins of any blend until gone or something. They way they leaked it to their friends and vendors makes me want to puke. In fact, I have just now decided to sell my cellar stock for huge profits when the prices start to spike. I hope they enjoy their retirement like a smooth bowl of Mixture 79. I hope you get the picture that their are multiple ways that they could have gone with this. I am just pointing out a few things that seem to be forgotten in this mess. I have my blends I like from them and will still enjoy them. Just not as often as I would have if things had gone down different. Time to move on to better tobacco anyway - Eddie "Freaking" G Robinson ! This was one of the worst kept secrets in history. I don't think this was how it was supposed to go down. I only found out in early December when I posted on a 5100 thread on PM and my phone rang soon after. I was told by a guy in the know the story as it went down pretty much word for word including that they just wanted to run out their leaf stock and quietly fade away. I believed the story and placed my fist order 5 min. after I hung up the phone. I've spent a lot of time in crowded smoke filled hotel rooms at shows with Mike and he likes to talk and I sure that he told someone and it went from there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 19:20:40 GMT -5
I really thought the reds would eventually come back and all would be well in the world. I took my eyes off the ball for a minute and the whole bottom fell out - shelves were stripped bare, no more Dark Star, no more St James Woods, no more Blackwood Flake. I am hoping for just one more drop of tins.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 20:49:16 GMT -5
I am hoping to find some 40th. I had not gotten around to that one yet. Money and time didn't allow for it in my case. I am glad I got into Dark Star, 3 Oaks and Beacon Extra when I did. I will ration my two dozen tins as best I can. I did pick up some regular πΈ to enjoy yesterday. Personally, I very much enjoy the ketchup. I will miss their product when mine is gone.
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Post by Zach on Mar 1, 2018 20:58:12 GMT -5
Iβm really behind the whole last couple months, but if McClelland is going out of business I am super upset. Gutted to the point that I will have to collect myself before making a further comment.
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Post by cigrmaster on Mar 1, 2018 21:13:03 GMT -5
If anyone really wants some Mc, they have to start calling small mom and pop stores to see what they have left. I have a buddy who is on the road for his job and he has been hitting lots of stores in the mid west and scoring big time.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 1, 2018 21:19:18 GMT -5
Maybe. And what if I or others opened our big yaps? The panic buying of deranged hoarders and secondary market gougers would have descended like a stream of locust and wiped the supply out months ago. If you were a regular customer of McClelland products you had months of extra time to make your purchases. Evidently McClelland asked some tobacconists to inform their loyal customers. Human nature being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks abused that advanced info. I'd like to believe that such abuse wasn't widespread. As for myself, I did buy a few tins of blends that I'd been thinking of trying but hadn't gotten around to doing so. I'm already stocked with what I like. At least you got the chance Jessie. A formal announcement 2 months ago would have given everyone a chance. They could have instructed their vendors to limit sales to 2 tins of any blend until gone or something. They way they leaked it to their friends and vendors makes me want to puke. In fact, I have just now decided to sell my cellar stock for huge profits when the prices start to spike. I hope they enjoy their retirement like a smooth bowl of Mixture 79. I hope you get the picture that their are multiple ways that they could have gone with this. I am just pointing out a few things that seem to be forgotten in this mess. I have my blends I like from them and will still enjoy them. Just not as often as I would have if things had gone down different. Time to move on to better tobacco anyway - Eddie "Freaking" G Robinson ! We'll agree to disagree. Once it became apparent that stocks were diminishing, the alarm sounded and the rush was on. That would have happened if there had been a formal announcement. It just would have happened much earlier. There's no way to enforce a limit, except, maybe, at one of the big online dealers, and they didn't impose any limits even though they had to be in the know about what was happening. But most tobacconists will happily sell you all of what they have. A few years ago, when I was still on the hunt for Stonehaven, I called a well known B&M. As it happened, their shipment had arrived just before I called. The proprietor offered me the entire shipment. Tempting as that was, I limited myself to 2 bags. Someone else wiped them out right after I called. I've found that to be pretty common in the years since. People did have the opportunity. They had years of it, except for newcomers. And the rush, when it happened, only came about right before the end. By the time the panic set in, McClelland was reportedly already in the process of selling off equipment. There's no perfect way to do this. But regular purchasers had ample opportunity. People have been advised, for years, to stock up because the future is uncertain. This is a textbook case of why that is good advice.
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Post by zambini on Mar 1, 2018 21:21:51 GMT -5
Maybe. And what if I or others opened our big yaps? The panic buying of deranged hoarders and secondary market gougers would have descended like a stream of locust and wiped the supply out months ago. If you were a regular customer of McClelland products you had months of extra time to make your purchases. Evidently McClelland asked some tobacconists to inform their loyal customers. Human nature being what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks abused that advanced info. I'd like to believe that such abuse wasn't widespread. As for myself, I did buy a few tins of blends that I'd been thinking of trying but hadn't gotten around to doing so. I'm already stocked with what I like. At least you got the chance Jessie. A formal announcement 2 months ago would have given everyone a chance. They could have instructed their vendors to limit sales to 2 tins of any blend until gone or something.... I hope you get the picture that their are multiple ways that they could have gone with this.... I'd like to agree with this edited version of the above statement.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 1, 2018 21:24:02 GMT -5
If anyone really wants some Mc, they have to start calling small mom and pop stores to see what they have left. I have a buddy who is on the road for his job and he has been hitting lots of stores in the mid west and scoring big time. Sage advice. Start making phone calls. It's not like there isn't a lot of product sitting on shelves.
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Post by Zach on Mar 1, 2018 21:24:02 GMT -5
If anyone really wants some Mc, they have to start calling small mom and pop stores to see what they have left. I have a buddy who is on the road for his job and he has been hitting lots of stores in the mid west and scoring big time. I have a few good shops in the midwest but I will have to apologize for not giving away the info. I bought mostly GLP tins last time i was there and kind of wish they were all the McClellands I was looking at there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 21:55:59 GMT -5
I will of course, be visiting my local shop this weekend to check on what they have. Even with years to get around to specific tobaccos, there are so many out there that it is not possble to buy or sample everything. Unless you are Jiminks!π€
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Post by trailboss on Mar 1, 2018 22:02:44 GMT -5
They definitely had a good run and held themselves to a very high standard, how many times we have heard of a current name brand that is a shadow of the former... refusing to compromise on excellence deserves respect.
I hope that with the free time retirement affords, that they can re-channel some time to stay plugged into the community. It would be nice to see them offer advice to Home brewers that have dipped their toes into tobacco blending on their own like Darin and others.
If they choose to live in Tahiti with their toes in the sand I get it.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 1, 2018 22:05:22 GMT -5
If anyone really wants some Mc, they have to start calling small mom and pop stores to see what they have left. I have a buddy who is on the road for his job and he has been hitting lots of stores in the mid west and scoring big time. I have a few good shops in the midwest but I will have to apologize for not giving away the info. I bought mostly GLP tins last time i was there and kind of wish they were all the McClellands I was looking at there. You were not unwise to cellar GLP blends, based on my conversation with Greg, they may not be available in the future either.
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Post by Zach on Mar 1, 2018 22:24:47 GMT -5
I have a few good shops in the midwest but I will have to apologize for not giving away the info. I bought mostly GLP tins last time i was there and kind of wish they were all the McClellands I was looking at there. You were not unwise to cellar GLP blends, based on my conversation with Greg, they may not be available in the future either. Hell, based on the last 5 years im assuming no tobacco will be available in the future. Makes me think a LOT harder about just buying 10+ pounds of my top five and giving up completely for years.
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Post by zambini on Mar 1, 2018 22:52:35 GMT -5
I have a few good shops in the midwest but I will have to apologize for not giving away the info. I bought mostly GLP tins last time i was there and kind of wish they were all the McClellands I was looking at there. You were not unwise to cellar GLP blends, based on my conversation with Greg, they may not be available in the future either. So are we looking at a future of just STG, K&K and Gawith? If Pease goes is it because C&D went as well?
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Post by trailboss on Mar 1, 2018 23:03:42 GMT -5
You were not unwise to cellar GLP blends, based on my conversation with Greg, they may not be available in the future either. So are we looking at a future of just STG, K&K and Gawith? If Pease goes is it because C&D went as well? I cannot speak about C&D...PM sent.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 1, 2018 23:54:54 GMT -5
I have a few good shops in the midwest but I will have to apologize for not giving away the info. I bought mostly GLP tins last time i was there and kind of wish they were all the McClellands I was looking at there. You were not unwise to cellar GLP blends, based on my conversation with Greg, they may not be available in the future either. Well you have piqued my curiosity Charlie. Greg went on PM last month, during the early stages of McClelland panic, to state that he's still very much involved in his tobacco business and isn't going anywhere. He can't introduce new blends due to the FDA deeming rules, and a number of his blends will bite the dust in 2021 if nothing changes. But he's still involved in overseeing his blends and will continue to do so with those still on the market. As for C&D, if they were going to go tits up, why would they be buying some of McClelland's equipment?
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Post by trailboss on Mar 2, 2018 0:07:01 GMT -5
PM sent, Jesse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 13:22:06 GMT -5
Stock sure is disappearing fast. Most tins are gone everywhere, but there are some bulks left (mostly aros, which IMHO was not really their forte').
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Post by trailboss on Mar 3, 2018 16:20:10 GMT -5
Stock sure is disappearing fast. Most tins are gone everywhere, but there are some bulks left (mostly aros, which IMHO was not really their forte'). Well if they sold off their equipment, I would be surprised to see any product replaced. I bet Mike has a hell of a McCellar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 16:22:42 GMT -5
there are 5 tin offerings left out of 122 blend listings at SP. Frog Morton and 4. Aro's.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 3, 2018 18:38:13 GMT -5
Stock sure is disappearing fast. Most tins are gone everywhere, but there are some bulks left (mostly aros, which IMHO was not really their forte'). Well if they sold off their equipment, I would be surprised to see any product replaced. I bet Mike has a hell of a McCellar. Charlie, these things work on a schedule. The equipment being sold doesn't mean that it's moved immediately. They could just need the tinning and labeling pipeline for a few more weeks and let the presses and other machinery go. Some Butera showed up. It wouldn't surprise me if a few other products head out before they completely turn off the lights.
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Post by cigrmaster on Mar 3, 2018 19:40:25 GMT -5
I heard from a guy that Jesse is going to become Pease's CEO so that Greg can concentrate on his wine business. This is not a rumor and I have a copy of Jesee's employment contract. If anyone wants to see it just let me know.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Mar 3, 2018 20:20:51 GMT -5
And Jim Inks will do all reviews for free a lifetime supply of tobacco!
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Post by johnlawitzke on Mar 3, 2018 20:38:29 GMT -5
And Jim Inks will do all reviews for free a lifetime supply of tobacco! After he finishes changing the Production Status and Available From fields for all McC blends on TobaccoReviews. ππ³π’π
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 22:31:10 GMT -5
Stopped by the B&M today and they had a few Frogs, Oriental #6, and a couple of Brown labels - but priced at $25 for the larger tins. That's not inflated due to McC closing, just their normal prices. I passed.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 3, 2018 23:05:47 GMT -5
Hahaha the sinking of the USS McClelland certainly has gotten a few danders up.
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Post by JimInks on Mar 3, 2018 23:17:51 GMT -5
And Jim Inks will do all reviews for free a lifetime supply of tobacco! After he finishes changing the Production Status and Available From fields for all McC blends on TobaccoReviews. ππ³π’π Oh, that would take sometime. You and Roy could fry a lot of eggs while I did it.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 3, 2018 23:28:27 GMT -5
Anyone have any 40th anniversary labels to spare?
I have some crappy aroβs to unload.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 3, 2018 23:39:21 GMT -5
Anyone have any 40th anniversary labels to spare? I have some crappy aroβs to unload. Oops... that was suppose to post in the fake anniversary thread.
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