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Post by That Falls Guy on Mar 7, 2018 17:56:11 GMT -5
Short and Sweet......without getting into a political discussion, there's a new guy in town.
When you look at the effect of the demise of McClelland Tobacco on other small businesses, it's a damn shame. Some other companies that might be able to compensate for the loss of McClelland, (and soon to be Dunhill), are hesitant to move forward because of the pending FDA rules. I would encourage all interested parties to contact the White House , and all members of Congress ( in States where some some degree of sanity still exists!) to pull back on this. It may not do any good, but it's won't hurt either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 19:32:05 GMT -5
I've been down that road. It is a great way to get on the mailing lists of Pol's you'd just as soon not hear from.
It is also a little late in the game.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Mar 7, 2018 19:37:43 GMT -5
I agree with your first comment, but not the last. When they solicit you, send them your reply.....without a contribution! If they don't reply, add them to your spam.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Mar 7, 2018 19:52:29 GMT -5
Furthermore, where are the 'powers that be' from the major tobacco producing States? Have they been paid off or what?
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Post by puffy on Mar 7, 2018 20:09:04 GMT -5
There's another problem here that isn't talked about much.Tobacco is a hands on labor intensive crop'These days the laborers to do it just aren't there.Even if they were they would be expensive.A lot of farmers have switched to crops they can grown with machines.The amount of tobacco grown continues to decrease.I think one reason given for McClelland's demise was a lack of high grade tobacco.
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Post by peteguy on Mar 7, 2018 20:19:03 GMT -5
Furthermore, where are the 'powers that be' from the major tobacco producing States? Have they been paid off or what? They might just be the ones behind it... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 21:34:42 GMT -5
That's probably true that potential new blenders are put off by what may come from the FDA; but not true that McClelland closed down because of that. They retired. Shops and small blenders who went out of business unfortunately caved before the FDA regs were a done deal, and if they hadn't nothing would have changed for them as of now.
There were some petitions going around a while back about the deeming regs etc., and I think they did help instigate the date being put off to 2021. It's almost impossible to talk about this stuff "without getting into a political discussion" - but I will say that stuff like tobacco regs are what governments focus on when there is relative stability in the country. It's also true that the WH petition system has been completely ignored since "the new guy" got there. There is so much chaos going on right now in DC that I doubt anyone has even given tpobacco a second thought. The political landscape will look very different in 2021 (and possibly after this Nov., and possibly even earlier depending on the actions of the special counsel). So I personally don't see the point in writing to any politician right now about tobacco, or saving the snow leopard, or whatever other cause is so low down their list as to be off the radar. I hope that was tactful! No intention of opening a partisan can of worms.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 7, 2018 23:18:46 GMT -5
It is always a good idea to contact elected officials regarding concerns that affect you regardless of what you expect in a response, or if you expect to get no response. Several years ago, I was part of a contingent that travelled to Foggybootom to air our concerns to congresscritters and Senators...in the offices of at least one in each house of congress we were told, paraphrased: "Our gut concern, is that the majority of the public is with you but unless we get real support in the way of (In the order of descending importance) letters, emails, and calls voicing concerns, we feel that we have nothing to bring to the table...nothing is so effective as bringing banker boxes of letters in support for an issue to effect change." I understand the dynamics of the cigarette industry, like RJR and such poisoning the pool with their nonsense....but there is some truth with what I say on how the rest of us have sat by and watched the bullshit being cranked out in that cesspool. I have written threads encouraging pipe smokers to contract their elected representatives on the issue at hand, a few responded, but for the most part.....  Or you can take the road that so many pipe smokers say...."I have a vast cellar, enough to outlast me...screw everyone else." It is really a shame that them types weren't born 30 years later. |
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Post by That Falls Guy on Mar 8, 2018 18:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 10:49:46 GMT -5
Cigar Rights of America is fighting back and has been successful. I wish they would expand to cover premium pipe tobacco as well, but they're concerned only with premium cigars. IMHO, the whole problem is excessive regulation and FDA over-reach, which didn't occur recently.
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