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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 1:31:01 GMT -5
I decided to look up the phobia terms for people that have an irrational fear of tobacco users.
From an anti-tobacco website.
I once had a pipe in my mouth and stopped puffing when a woman went by with her kids... that didn’t stop her from doing the limbo in passing to avoid the imaginary toxic cloud that could have killed her!
I would bet that when they camp out and enjoy the campfire, they ingest more harmful smoke in a few hours than they would ever face in years by crossing paths with a smoker.
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 11, 2018 2:20:52 GMT -5
Yep... Add to that, bbq smoke, walking behind a running car, dying hair, cleaning the kitchen or bathroom... It's all varying degrees of nastiness going into your lungs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 2:27:53 GMT -5
Yep... Add to that, bbq smoke, walking behind a running car, dying hair, cleaning the kitchen or bathroom... It's all varying degrees of nastiness going into your lungs. The running car is my favorite. Way more toxic and something that they will certainly not give up. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 2:33:55 GMT -5
Rick Newcomb has a humorous (but sad) story of standing on a street corner as a city bus belched mounds of black smoke in his face, while the big ad on the side of the bus warned the public that smoking is bad for you.
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 11, 2018 2:41:22 GMT -5
Rick Newcomb has a humorous (but sad) story of standing on a street corner as a city bus belched mounds of black smoke in his face, while the big ad on the side of the bus warned the public that smoking is bad for you. Oh, the irony!!! |
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Post by slowroll on Mar 11, 2018 7:46:22 GMT -5
I have often said that living in city is far more hazardous than secondhand smoke.
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Post by mwps70 on Mar 11, 2018 9:19:47 GMT -5
These are obviously the type of people that the FDA hires haha. I will say that most of the people that have been near or around me while smoking a pipe have been positive saying things like that smell reminds me of my grandpa. I haven't walked down a busy city street and the reaction may be different. I say shock treatment would be a great cure for these phobias though.  |
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Post by just ol ed on Mar 11, 2018 9:43:20 GMT -5
my favorites (while walking neighbor's 250lb overly friendly Newfoundland), pipe not only not lit but empty and watching the gasp,gasp, fan the air etc of anti-Nazis. Downtown area around 6 blocks long. At end of same, cross Main St. let folks pet the dog, then pack, light & head back. Have also done, just to piss 'em off, a Churchill size cigar not only NOT lit but still in the cello wrapper. Gives me a sorta warm, fuzzy feeling & big 'ol grin to show 'em either/or the lack of tobacco burning. We have small mini-bus here, 4 of 'em, all 100% electric.....but also good share of older cars/trucks with diesel emmisions.
Ed Duncan, Batavia, NY
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 11, 2018 10:09:06 GMT -5
Yep... Add to that, bbq smoke, walking behind a running car, dying hair, cleaning the kitchen or bathroom... It's all varying degrees of nastiness going into your lungs. The running car is my favorite. Way more toxic and something that they will certainly not give up. Reminds me of a story my mother used to tell. When she was little, cars were still a novelty. She and the other kids would run behind the cars just to smell the exhaust. |
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Post by cgvt on Mar 11, 2018 10:22:08 GMT -5
I was sitting on the beach smoking a cigar one day. The wind was blowing about 15 knots. Obviously the smoke was not lingering. I had a woman come up to me and ask me to put out my cigar because I was endangering her and her family. She and her group were about thirty yards from me. I told that there was no way that the smoke was going to hurt her. She said, "But we can smell it and it is bothering me". I told her that I could smell her suntan oil and it was bothering me and I would quit smoking my cigar if she would remove her oil. She stormed off in a huff.
I continued to smoke my cigar.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 10:35:48 GMT -5
Great response!
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Post by slowroll on Mar 11, 2018 11:17:43 GMT -5
I was sitting on the beach smoking a cigar one day. The wind was blowing about 15 knots. Obviously the smoke was not lingering. I had a woman come up to me and ask me to put out my cigar because I was endangering her and her family. She and her group were about thirty yards from me. I told that there was no way that the smoke was going to hurt her. She said, "But we can smell it and it is bothering me". I told her that I could smell her suntan oil and it was bothering me and I would quit smoking my cigar if she would remove her oil. She stormed off in a huff. I continued to smoke my cigar. I was once at an air how (of all places, with 2000hp planes blasting around) and a woman sat in front of me and moaned about my cigar. I asked why in hell did she sit in front of me then -- just to bellyache? |
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Post by billyklubb on Mar 11, 2018 12:14:09 GMT -5
the few times my dad stopped into town to "visit", mom would take us up to the truck stop to see him. as he smoked his cigarettes, he would hold it away from my mom and us kids and blow the smoke straight up. my mom would always wave her hand dramatically in front of her face with her chin tucked down and a horrified look on her face while she blew out as though he was blowing right in her face. I called her out on it when I was 11 or 12. got my mouth washed out for "talking back" when we got home.
when my wife and I first got together, my great-grandma had passed. so we drove from South Dakota to Wisconsin for the funeral. I was still smoking cigarettes at the time. as we drove out to the cemetery, my mom and grandma were about half a mile behind us. my mom tried to chew me out because "the smoke was going right into the air conditioner, filling the car with smoke". I told her that at that distance and speed with the strong cross wind and winding roads that was quite impossible. and on that same note: every time anyone in our family passed on, she'd exclaim at me, "NOW will you quit SAH-moking!?!?" these were all non-smokers that I didn't smoke around. that woman has some issues. I got so tired of calling her out on all the stupid crap that comes out of her mouth I just respond with a sarcastic, "SURE!"
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 12, 2018 2:48:42 GMT -5
I was going to say something that I would have regretted...
My two children (one female, one male, now adults) grew up breathing the pipe smoke in the house. They were, and remain, exceptionally healthy individuals.
I acknowledge that mental illness is a genuine medical concern, but phobias by definition are irrational fears of some generally harmless things.
So, I say, to all who have a phobia of smoke... *the phrase I would have regretted saying.*
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Post by trailboss on Mar 12, 2018 6:46:27 GMT -5
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A salient point that a smoker would do well to consider when engaging in a dialogue with people. I believe that the main reason people have a phobia of smoke, is because the decades of demonization of tobacco has played a role.
I think that many may not have a true phobia, but just parrot what they have heard... If they are reasonable people, it might be a worthwhile endeavor to explain to them about the corrupted UN study on the effects of secondhand smoke, but at the same time agree that smoking be it from a smoker or a barbecuer should not be done in the presence of people that have compromised respiratory health... know your audience.
Of course you will probably get the regular response of a person that claims they are in that camp.
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