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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 11:46:08 GMT -5
Doing a Google search, I ran across this over at PM by HunterTRW from a few years back:
Is that true?
I thought that Carl had died while they were married.
I know that his grandfather started McClellands, and Carl’s book is a must have for a lot of pipe smokers. Obviously, any malady with the brain can have profound changes in one’s life... if the above comment is true, so sad for such a remarkable family history and knowledge to leave the hobby in such a manner.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 11:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by mwps70 on Mar 11, 2018 13:36:58 GMT -5
Awesome read, very informative and makes me really want to dig into much more history of pipe tobacco. I'd like to get a copy of that book. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 11, 2018 14:31:19 GMT -5
Very interesting thread. Ehwa died in 1996. So he and Mary must have been divorced since she married Mike McNeil in 1993.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Mar 11, 2018 15:07:43 GMT -5
...yes Mary and Carl divorced...Mike was basically an 'understudy" of Carl's when at Diebel's...When Carl and Mary created McClelland's Mike rejoined Carl in learning the McClelland process...after Carl's medical issues and lack of motivation to re-enter the business...Mike and Mary began their teamwork at the helm of McClelland...
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Post by cigrmaster on Mar 11, 2018 15:20:31 GMT -5
Very interesting read, thanks for the link.
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Post by mwps70 on Mar 11, 2018 16:49:32 GMT -5
Cool, any good books on pipe smoking and tobacco interest me. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by papipeguy on Mar 11, 2018 16:56:28 GMT -5
This could use a good screen writer. Quite a tale to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:58:33 GMT -5
Thanks for that link, trailboss . Sounds like Barry Levin was almost as much a part of McClelland as the O'Neils - being directly responsible for the Personal Reserve and Craftsbury lines, which have some of McC's most iconic and bestselling blends. The thing about Ballena Suprema cigars also stood out. Anyone ever try them? I can't remember ever seeing or hearing of them. I'm guessing they're long gone, but found this for posterity:  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 11, 2018 17:48:51 GMT -5
Thanks for that. It was very informative. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:24:40 GMT -5
Awesome read, very informative and makes me really want to dig into much more history of pipe tobacco. I'd like to get a copy of that book. Thanks for posting this link, Trailboss. I thought that Carl Ehwa had died in the accident as well. Sad story. His tome, The Book of Pipes and
Tobaccos, is a must have for all pipe and tobacco enthusiasts. Nonpareil. |
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Post by mwps70 on Mar 11, 2018 21:17:26 GMT -5
This could use a good screen writer. Quite a tale to tell. I agree...seriously. With a talented writer this could really be a great story brought to screen. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 22:23:29 GMT -5
Mary is good at artwork... Mary knows how to run a business pretty well... Mike admits that some of the blends he was attempting had him at a brick wall until Mary gave advice.. Mary writes a pretty good article.... I think she might do well.  |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 11, 2018 22:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by headrott on Mar 12, 2018 2:36:28 GMT -5
...yes Mary and Carl divorced...Mike was basically an 'understudy" of Carl's when at Diebel's...When Carl and Mary created McClelland's Mike rejoined Carl in learning the McClelland process...after Carl's medical issues and lack of motivation to re-enter the business...Mike and Mary began their teamwork at the helm of McClelland... Sounds like you know your history, Peter. |
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Post by headrott on Mar 12, 2018 2:38:09 GMT -5
That looks like some Challah bread. Very tasty bread, and this looks like an excellent example of it. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 12, 2018 2:44:09 GMT -5
This could use a good screen writer. Quite a tale to tell. ...idea for a play here John... thanks. |
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Mar 12, 2018 5:48:19 GMT -5
...yes Mary and Carl divorced...Mike was basically an 'understudy" of Carl's when at Diebel's...When Carl and Mary created McClelland's Mike rejoined Carl in learning the McClelland process...after Carl's medical issues and lack of motivation to re-enter the business...Mike and Mary began their teamwork at the helm of McClelland... Sounds like you know your history, Peter. ...I've known Mary and Mike since 1979...and knew Carl before his accident... |
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Post by headrott on Mar 12, 2018 5:56:21 GMT -5
Sounds like you know your history, Peter. ...I've known Mary and Mike since 1979...and knew Carl before his accident... That is an honor. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 12, 2018 6:26:40 GMT -5
Sounds like you know your history, Peter. ...I've known Mary and Mike since 1979...and knew Carl before his accident... That should gain you an old buzzard badge status on the forum! That is pretty cool, Mary’s story has more of a personal connection for you than most here can say. |
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Mar 12, 2018 8:22:33 GMT -5
...I've known Mary and Mike since 1979...and knew Carl before his accident... That should gain you an old buzzard badge status on the forum! That is pretty cool, Mary’s story has more of a personal connection for you than most here can say. ...don't know about status...but for me personally, it has always been a real pleasure to know a bit of the family history and have enjoyed the friendship over the years... |
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 14, 2018 9:48:55 GMT -5
The stories of Carl Ewa and Barry Levin are tragic. Barry dropped dead and Carl Lingered for years. Mary moved on, survived and thrived and Bear's family fell apart ending in prison time for his son after a drug bust where he was reportedly trying to make some cash to pay back the guys in the hobby he ripped off.  |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 14, 2018 12:30:02 GMT -5
The stories of Carl Ewa and Barry Levin are tragic. Barry dropped dead and Carl Lingered for years. Mary moved on, survived and thrived and Bear's family fell apart ending in prison time for his son after a drug bust where he was reportedly trying to make some cash to pay back the guys in the hobby he ripped off. Indeed sad. One of our Albuquerque drivers had a stellar career, millions of miles with no accidents, and literally risked his life pulling people from burning vehicles. The company hired his son on, and he was busted selling a set of doubles filled with plasma tv’s. Sometimes with mighty oaks, the acorn falls far away from the tree. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 13:05:18 GMT -5
The stories of Carl Ewa and Barry Levin are tragic. Barry dropped dead and Carl Lingered for years. Mary moved on, survived and thrived and Bear's family fell apart ending in prison time for his son after a drug bust where he was reportedly trying to make some cash to pay back the guys in the hobby he ripped off. Indeed sad. One of our Albuquerque drivers had a stellar career, millions of miles with no accidents, and literally risked his life pulling people from burning vehicles. The company hired his son on, and he was busted selling a set of doubles filled with plasma tv’s. Sometimes with mighty oaks, the acorn falls far away from the tree. Very true, though it's also true that great men do not always make great fathers. I hate hearing evil parenting stories about uncles or friends I admire, but they're sadly all too common. Same with some mothers. Just a general statement, BTW - not meant to reflect on anyone mentioned in this thread, none of whom I know. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 16:49:39 GMT -5
Wonder if we all write letters to the former owners of McClelland's they will feel sorry for us and re-start the company?
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Post by jpberg on Mar 14, 2018 17:38:09 GMT -5
Wonder if we all write letters to the former owners of McClelland's they will feel sorry for us and re-start the company? No doubt. I wonder why no one else thought of that? |
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Post by cigrmaster on Mar 14, 2018 17:47:52 GMT -5
Having recently retired (aug 15 2017) and having sold my business, I can say without any doubts it was time to say good bye. I have a feeling Mary and Mike have had a load of stress removed from their lives and may be asking themselves why they waited so long to do it.
I would be willing to bet a load of dough, they are not coming back so that their customers can be happy once more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 17:51:48 GMT -5
Wish them good luck in their retirement, MCClelland Tobacco will be missed, but we will all find in time a substitute and will continue to keep in our cellars their products!
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