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Post by chadhawk on Mar 14, 2018 22:52:20 GMT -5
Greetings all. I recently introduced myself and my recently acquired estate collection.
I have been buying my tobacco from a local b&m somewhat blindly. They have shop blends but won't reveal what brands and blends are in it which I understand. I think they for sure use Lane with such mixes as Very Cherry.
I have tried 5 or so from them including Captain Black and there are two I like but nothing that screams to me and I am not sure in which direction of tobacco to search.
The two that I like so far are named Golden Cavendish and Sweet Cherry Cavendish. Again, that probably is not much help but that is the shop names.
I am for the most part leaning to aromatics at the moment to get my wife's seal of approval but for instance she isn't a fan of the Golden Cavendish so I have that when she isn't around. She likes the cherry a lot which I enjoy and she likes one I got called Buttered Rum but I do not care for.
I have been looking online but I am just overwhelmed by the options and just really don't know where to begin.
I know taste and odor are subjective but I trust this forums expertise more than I trust blindly throwing my hard earned dollars out.
I greatly appreciate any direction offered and I apologize for such a vague question.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 14, 2018 23:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 23:25:16 GMT -5
Greetings all. I recently introduced myself and my recently acquired estate collection. I have been buying my tobacco from a local b&m somewhat blindly. They have shop blends but won't reveal what brands and blends are in it which I understand. I think they for sure use Lane with such mixes as Very Cherry. I have tried 5 or so from them including Captain Black and there are two I like but nothing that screams to me and I am not sure in which direction of tobacco to search. The two that I like so far are named Golden Cavendish and Sweet Cherry Cavendish. Again, that probably is not much help but that is the shop names. I am for the most part leaning to aromatics at the moment to get my wife's seal of approval but for instance she isn't a fan of the Golden Cavendish so I have that when she isn't around. She likes the cherry a lot which I enjoy and she likes one I got called Buttered Rum but I do not care for. I have been looking online but I am just overwhelmed by the options and just really don't know where to begin. I know taste and odor are subjective but I trust this forums expertise more than I trust blindly throwing my hard earned dollars out. I greatly appreciate any direction offered and I apologize for such a vague question. I keep about 3 pounds of Whitehall Black Tie in stock. Link below. It's a black cav with tastes of vanilla and a tad of cocoa. It's mild and boasts a good room note. It gets trashed, mostly because it's an aro and it's mild (no major nicotine blast). This shop is the only one with a good rep that carries it. You can buy a few ounces to try. wvsmokeshop.com/whitehallblacktie.aspxJimInks gives it 2.5 stars, which I feel is good and fair on the overall. It would get more respect if it were bold, but it's not, which is why I think you'll be okay with the room note |
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Post by Beardedpipesmoker on Mar 14, 2018 23:35:39 GMT -5
Grab a tin of Mac baren vanilla flake. Some say it bites but I think if you pack it right it doesn't and it makes a room smell like toasted marshmallows
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 1:55:16 GMT -5
I recommend that you buy some Lane 1-Q and Lane BCA. You can buy them from just about every on-line vender, i.e., SmokingPipes, CupaJoes, Pipes&Cigars, etc. About every tobacco shop in the USA also has them either under those names or shop names, but they'll know what you want.
Try them separately and try mixing them together. They have a pleasant vanilla taste and an aroma of toasted marshmallows. 1-Q is the best selling tobacco in the states and BCA isn't far behind. I like a mixture of the two when I'm in the mood for an aromatic. These don't bite and are generally very popular with bystanders.
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 15, 2018 2:08:05 GMT -5
This is a hard question to answer, considering the subjectivity of our tastes.
For the most part, all I can taste is smoke. The exception to that is with the two tobaccos that I've listed as my favourite... Macbaren cube and mclintock orange dream. The reason why is because I can taste something different (I. E. Some of the flavour) in the smoke (other than smoke).
But you might disagree, so I would suggest you pick up a sampler set that some online retailers provide. That's what helped me find my taste. The online retailer in the UK that I use has sample sets of the top 6 aromatics, top 6 English, top 6 best sellers etc.
I'm sure there's a USA website that does the same. You should find something that you lean towards and work from there.
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Post by JimInks on Mar 15, 2018 4:48:04 GMT -5
Here's a few ideas for you for variety's sake:
Sutliff bulk blends: Chocolate Supreme, Chocolate Mousse, Black Cherry, Black Cordial, Creme Brulee, and Rum and Maple. Edward G. Robinson's Pipe Blend, which is sold in a tin or tub.
Lane: Vanilla Black Cavendish, Captain Black Copper, 1-Q.
Peter Stokkebye bulk: Black Coffee, Cherry Bon Bon, Peaches and Cream, Sweet Vanilla.
MacBaren Vanilla Cream.
Smoker's Pride Rum.
Villiger pouches: Tropical Export, Jamaican Export, New World Export, and Original Export.
If you go to tobaccoreviews.com, you can read my reviews as well as others.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Mar 15, 2018 6:17:05 GMT -5
...all good advice from other members...keep in mind...experimenting with tobaccos is a journey...
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Post by puffy on Mar 15, 2018 10:10:36 GMT -5
I would suggest that you keep a list of the types of blends that you like..For example..I discovered long ago that I don't like Aromatics that are flavored with alcohol,and I really don't care much for Perique,and I can't smoke straight Virginia.In the long run it will save you from spending money on blends that you don't like.
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Post by crapgame on Mar 15, 2018 10:46:14 GMT -5
Try Prince Albert or Carter Hall in a cob..great place to start.. sterlingtobaccoco.com/ this place offer 3 one ounce sample for 7 bucks and some are quite good like the golden eagle.. double eagle.. White tail aromatic.. Klompen is nice and so is the maple blend... the VA/Per he has is geat as well! Sir Walter Raleigh Aromatic is also a fine blend! |
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Post by briarblues on Mar 15, 2018 11:38:15 GMT -5
chadhawk;
I guess I'm going to go against the grain on this subject. Almost every tobacconist I've ever met recommends an "aromatic" for a beginning pipe smoker. All fine IF they've asked you a few questions.
1 - what type of food do you prefer? spicy, sweet, bland ....
2 - what is you beverage of choice? Scotch, bourbon, rye, beer, coffee, tea, milk, soda etc......
3 - where will you be smoking? In doors or outdoors?
4 - will you be alone or in mixed company?
Without asking this 4 minimum questions, they should not suggest anything. Each will play a roll in what to suggest. If you would like to reply to these I'd be happy to offer some suggestions. If not, all good. Instead I would suggest you buy a few ounces of each of the major tobacco styles, an aromatic, a straight Virginia, an English ( light on the Latakia content ), and one Burley. This will be your base and allow you to find what styles best suit you, and as you will be smoking in mixed company, not get you relegated to smoking in your garage, alone.
Regards
Michael J. Glukler
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Post by cigrmaster on Mar 15, 2018 11:49:41 GMT -5
If you want aromatics that taste like they smell and don't lose any flavor as you smoke, try Cult Blood Red Moon and Sutliff Molto Dolce. I find them to be very tasty and people love the room note.
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Post by JDunbar on Mar 15, 2018 12:31:01 GMT -5
I recommend that you buy some Lane 1-Q and Lane BCA. You can buy them from just about every on-line vender, i.e., SmokingPipes, CupaJoes, Pipes&Cigars, etc. About every tobacco shop in the USA also has them either under those names or shop names, but they'll know what you want. Try them separately and try mixing them together. They have a pleasant vanilla taste and an aroma of toasted marshmallows. 1-Q is the best selling tobacco in the states and BCA isn't far behind. I like a mixture of the two when I'm in the mood for an aromatic. These don't bite and are generally very popular with bystanders. I agree! I have both and both are great. I tend to reach for the BCA more often but have never tried mixing them together. Going to try that right now!  |
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Post by chadhawk on Mar 15, 2018 19:22:51 GMT -5
chadhawk; I guess I'm going to go against the grain on this subject. Almost every tobacconist I've ever met recommends an "aromatic" for a beginning pipe smoker. All fine IF they've asked you a few questions. 1 - what type of food do you prefer? spicy, sweet, bland .... 2 - what is you beverage of choice? Scotch, bourbon, rye, beer, coffee, tea, milk, soda etc...... 3 - where will you be smoking? In doors or outdoors? 4 - will you be alone or in mixed company? Without asking this 4 minimum questions, they should not suggest anything. Each will play a roll in what to suggest. If you would like to reply to these I'd be happy to offer some suggestions. If not, all good. Instead I would suggest you buy a few ounces of each of the major tobacco styles, an aromatic, a straight Virginia, an English ( light on the Latakia content ), and one Burley. This will be your base and allow you to find what styles best suit you, and as you will be smoking in mixed company, not get you relegated to smoking in your garage, alone. Regards Michael J. Glukler 1) Any kind of food really hah, I am not picky or a foody. Half the time I won't even think to eat until my wife makes dinner. 2) Bourbon all the way, no mixers. I live in Kentucky so it is pretty much our water here. I have been ending every night with a finger or two of bourbon and a pipe. If they made an alcohol free bourbon that retained its taste it would be all I drank. 3) both. I prefer to smoke outside weather permitting, but if the kids go to bed and it is a tobacco the wife likes the smell of I will have a smoke in the living room. 4) I am rarely alone due to having a wife, a 10 year old and a 6 year old. I slip away outside from time to time but they are always welcome to come, I will never complain if it gets them away from technology. I probably went overboard on the answers but a long work day of welding and then helping a friend build a wheel chair ramp has my brain in overworked spew mode. Thanks very much to you and everyone else that has contributed. |
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Post by briarblues on Mar 16, 2018 8:45:36 GMT -5
Hi chadhawk Ok that offers some better insight into the situation. Mixed company = pleasant room note, or at least not over powering. As food flavor are not dominant it allows a wider range of options. Bourbon = slightly sweet with rich body. ( yes I like bourbon as well ) As you smoke both in and out doors, again it allows a wider range of tobacco cuts. If you walked into a shop that I worked at and asked, with the above info offered, I'd suggest you might try a light Virginia. If not for the fact that McClelland's is closing house, I'd strongly suggest 5100. The room note is sweet, which pleases SWMBO. It has enough smoking sweetness and body that will please your taste zones. The cut is excellent for both in doors and out doors. However ... that option is not possible. So instead I might suggest Capstan Yellow, or Astley's 109. Both light, but with a high enough sugar content to have a pleasant room note. If these go over well, then you may want to try a light English blend with a low percentage Latakia and see if that is acceptable. The room note will be heavier with a "camp fire" air, which to some is pleasant. To others, not even close. Which is excellent to clear the house of in laws, when needed.  Other than that ... try as many that look interesting. Regards Michael J. Glukler |
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Post by chadhawk on Mar 18, 2018 22:12:33 GMT -5
Hi chadhawk Ok that offers some better insight into the situation. Mixed company = pleasant room note, or at least not over powering. As food flavor are not dominant it allows a wider range of options. Bourbon = slightly sweet with rich body. ( yes I like bourbon as well ) As you smoke both in and out doors, again it allows a wider range of tobacco cuts. If you walked into a shop that I worked at and asked, with the above info offered, I'd suggest you might try a light Virginia. If not for the fact that McClelland's is closing house, I'd strongly suggest 5100. The room note is sweet, which pleases SWMBO. It has enough smoking sweetness and body that will please your taste zones. The cut is excellent for both in doors and out doors. However ... that option is not possible. So instead I might suggest Capstan Yellow, or Astley's 109. Both light, but with a high enough sugar content to have a pleasant room note. If these go over well, then you may want to try a light English blend with a low percentage Latakia and see if that is acceptable. The room note will be heavier with a "camp fire" air, which to some is pleasant. To others, not even close. Which is excellent to clear the house of in laws, when needed. Other than that ... try as many that look interesting. Regards Michael J. Glukler Thank you immensely for taking time to thoroughly answer my questions. I will for sure order those you mentioned. It is quite frustrating not knowing what brand my local b&m is actually selling me because it severely limits my ability to research the blends I find pleasing. The sad thing is it is mainly a cigar shop and I haven't met anyone working there yet that seems to know anything about pipe tobacco. They do have Dunhill and McClelland tins which maybe I should purchase some of considering their state, but $17 a 1.75 oz tin (before this current going out of business stockpiling scramble) is just too much for me to be comfortable spending. They have standard bulk pipe tobacco such as lane that they will not reveal that it is anything other then a top secret shop blend at $3.50 an ounce. I have no problem paying that, I just wish I knew what I was smoking. I am just trying to not get frustrated with smoking a pipe and giving up.. I am very much a one brand/flavor person with my history of various tobacco use (Cigarettes which I thankfully quit years ago, dip which I also quit years ago, nasal snuff, and vaping.) I love tobacco. I guess I got it from my grandfather.. but I just love it. Pipe tobacco seems to be a way to enjoy something I love without the severe blatant death sentences the majority of other methods involved. Ugh, sorry for the ramblings.. just a lot on my mind. |
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Post by chadhawk on Mar 31, 2018 16:20:34 GMT -5
Hi chadhawk Ok that offers some better insight into the situation. Mixed company = pleasant room note, or at least not over powering. As food flavor are not dominant it allows a wider range of options. Bourbon = slightly sweet with rich body. ( yes I like bourbon as well ) As you smoke both in and out doors, again it allows a wider range of tobacco cuts. If you walked into a shop that I worked at and asked, with the above info offered, I'd suggest you might try a light Virginia. If not for the fact that McClelland's is closing house, I'd strongly suggest 5100. The room note is sweet, which pleases SWMBO. It has enough smoking sweetness and body that will please your taste zones. The cut is excellent for both in doors and out doors. However ... that option is not possible. So instead I might suggest Capstan Yellow, or Astley's 109. Both light, but with a high enough sugar content to have a pleasant room note. If these go over well, then you may want to try a light English blend with a low percentage Latakia and see if that is acceptable. The room note will be heavier with a "camp fire" air, which to some is pleasant. To others, not even close. Which is excellent to clear the house of in laws, when needed. Other than that ... try as many that look interesting. Regards Michael J. Glukler Well, I went to the local tobacco barn yesterday and decided to try an English.. I picked up a tin of Dunhill EMP (at least to say I tried it before it is no more) and an ounce of what I assume is Sutliff due to the bulk being called English Aromatic. I cracked open the tin of EMP and my wife and I both were crinkling our noses and shared a laugh about surely just wasting money. I reluctantly fired up a bowl of EMP as soon as I got home.. my wife stared waiting for the gags and I braced waiting for them... that is when I discovered how to me tobacco is supposed to taste. It was quite akin to me trying my first 18 year old scotch. It was overwhelming at times in a good way. I imagine in the coming months I will be dowsing myself in latikia and waiting for someone to throw a match on me. Aros will still have their place with me, but much to my suprise I am officially and english convert. |
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Post by gav on Mar 31, 2018 16:29:23 GMT -5
I'd start with blends heavy in one of the following depending on your tastes. You can also buy small 1 oz bags individually.
Perique - Spicy, Peppery
Virginas- sweet, citric
Latakia- Smoky
Orientals- herbal, flower
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