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Post by lestrout on Mar 15, 2018 14:42:18 GMT -5
I was slumming and cruising Reddit, when I came across this: "Laudisi owns both C&D and SP. SP always gets C&D blends first. Hearth and Home was the store brand of Habana Premium Cigar Shoppe of Albany, NY. Standard Tobacco bought pipesandcigars.com, H&H, and Russ and pulled them under their umbrella. They own CI, Cigar.com, Cbid, etc. Standard Tobacco specializes in selling sourced cigars. Like Aldi or the Kirkland brand of Costco, they source cigars and apply their own labels (Diesel, 5Vegas, Graycliff, etc, etc). One of their practices is to take extinct brands (Graycliff) and store brand them. Link P&C has resurrected War Horse, Bengal Slices, John Cotton's, and other brands at Standard Tobacco's pushing, but P&C does it transparently and makes videos about resurrecting the blends." The thread is www.reddit.com/r/PipeTobacco/comments/84otz4/question_about_sp_vs_pc/I know SToP just did a complicated Reverse Merger thingie (as opposed to an IPO), but, wow! hp les PS - actually, I think the poor Redditor got STG and SToP mixed up. Maybe he was buying too much McClelland and got addled
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 15:02:27 GMT -5
Good info, or at least engaging info. I started noticing the Laudisi connection last year. The two brands that elude me, as to where they come from, are E. Hoffman, who just got into pipe tobacco in recent years, and Whitehall Black Tie. No idea who owns E. Hoffman. I'd like to get a pic of the blender and put it on the altar to worship. Whitehall Black Tie is listed as Sutliff, but only on TR. I can find no info on Sutliff's site, which shows about everything else of theirs. The distributor name and address on the tub are not anywhere near any other company I can think of. I am ready to believe the distributor blends and packages it on its own. Oh, and all Sutliff tubs have a Sutliff stamp on, like Heine's and EGR. I give Russ a lot of credit for his accomplishments and keeping the flames alive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 16:13:17 GMT -5
Interesting link
Thank you for sharing!
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Post by papipeguy on Mar 15, 2018 16:28:39 GMT -5
Uh, CI is owned by Scandinavian Tobacco Group (STG). While SToP has completed its corporate reorganization we are nowhere near as large as STG. In fact, we'd be a rounding error on their financial sheets though we do have high hopes.
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Post by crapgame on Mar 15, 2018 17:23:07 GMT -5
a rounding error that has some of the best tobacco out there!
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 15, 2018 17:32:02 GMT -5
Standard Tobacco was a large leaf broker but I think this guy is talking about General Cigar that is also owned by STG. I believe General is the company that all the STG cigars get moved though. E.Hoffman was something like the original name of IRC way back when. Sutliff makes the tobacco probably under license of IRC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:44:27 GMT -5
Uh, CI is owned by Scandinavian Tobacco Group (STG). While SToP has completed its corporate reorganization we are nowhere near as large as STG. In fact, we'd be a rounding error on their financial sheets though we do have high hopes. Looking at SToP website. Does Russ work for both SToP and STG? There is so much crossover and names it's hard to keep track... or in my case, get a clue for the first time Edit-Just looked over the tobies listed on TR and thanks to @rekamepip I have several of the blends, tried a few so far and had put more in my cart.
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