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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 16:30:35 GMT -5
garry posted in WAYS. mentioning Green River. First time I read of it, last year, someone (not here) commented on how bad or cheap it was. I know that GR is in several blends that I do like, but two GR tobaccos that make me question how good it is are: H&H Very Berry and C&D Green River Vanilla. I since found, as mentioned, several blends that were okay. Of these two: 1) H&HVB had great berry flavor, but at the bowl got just a quarter way down it seemed to make my tongue and teeth feel like galvanized aluminum. 2) C&DGRV had very little vanilla that I could taste, but coated my tongue in the same way. Months of aging did nothing to help. It had not been a bad smoking day as I enjoyed all previous bowls. I took the Berry and added it to a much large blend and it totally sublimated the effect. All of that for two short questions: Does anyone else notice this? Is it because the tobacco I had it in had almost solely GR?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 16:57:11 GMT -5
Have to say Green River is bad, H&HVB I have not personally had, I did try C&DGRV, didn't finish half a bowl and dumped it, gave it to a friend who called me later and said friends don't do that to each other, so I guess he hated it as well!
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 15, 2018 17:14:39 GMT -5
I don't know anything about these mixtures but Green River Burley is a low price mechanically harvested tobacco that gets turned in to Cavendish by having the life cooked out of it and then soaked in flavorings and humectants. It's the base for most aro and the OTC mixtures.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:20:08 GMT -5
Whatever the OTC's do to it must work. But the cooking the life out of it seems a good way to put it, as it just seemed very blah. Or should I be more trendy and say Meh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:34:52 GMT -5
I don't know anything about these mixtures but Green River Burley is a low price mechanically harvested tobacco that gets turned in to Cavendish by having the life cooked out of it and then soaked in flavorings and humectants. It's the base for most aro and the OTC mixtures. Thank you for spoiling my night! LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 17:49:50 GMT -5
I don't know anything about these mixtures but Green River Burley is a low price mechanically harvested tobacco that gets turned in to Cavendish by having the life cooked out of it and then soaked in flavorings and humectants. It's the base for most aro and the OTC mixtures. Thank you for spoiling my night! LOL The opposite for me. Always happy when my suspicions are validated |
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Post by johnlawitzke on Mar 15, 2018 21:42:28 GMT -5
I like C&D GRV as a blending ingredient. I don’t smoke it straight though. My favorite home blend I call "Pegasus River". It is 2 parts C&D Pegasus to 1 part C&D GRV. I find it quite tasty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 22:49:34 GMT -5
My favorite home blend I call "Pegasus River". It is 2 parts C&D Pegasus to 1 part C&D GRV. I find it quite tasty. That actually sounds pretty good. I've actually thought about adding a little more unsweetened black Cavendish to Pegasus as well. |
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Post by sparks on Mar 20, 2018 13:20:46 GMT -5
Green River Burley is a particular strain of Burley that happens to be used to make Black Cavendish in some cases. The Green River Black Cavendish that C&D uses for many of their blends is a high quality black Cavendish. It is not goopy or loaded with flavoring. It is treated with some sugar water and then toasted causing the sugar to caramelize. It is quite different from what most people associate with Black Cavendish.
Many of the Black Cavendish blends used commercially are actually produced with a Virginia base. They are put through the same process, though often laden with flavoring agents making them wet and goopy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 14:11:11 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me, that those who smoke aromatics the least have the most to say about them. You don't see me yapping about Vapers, English, etc, because I don't comment on waters I don't sail on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 14:18:30 GMT -5
Thanks for that explanation, sparks I know that it can't be all the Green River, as Ole Shenandoah is made with it and I love their tobaccos. And, the GR Very Berry I bought blended into one of my blends very nicely, but did not stand on its own. I really wish I would have taken the advice of the Pipe Elders and taken notes of each smoke. Maybe it's not too late |
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Post by Wolfman on Apr 7, 2018 8:47:03 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me, that those who smoke aromatics the least have the most to say about them. You don't see me yapping about Vapers, English, etc, because I don't comment on waters I don't sail on. I started this journey with Captain Black and occasionally Barclay Rex Barclay Rum. My dad introduced me to pipes (cigars too), and he smoked CB. After roughly seven years, I discovered English blends via Davidoff Royalty. I fell in love and left my beloved CB. Last year I fell in love with VAs via GLP Laurel Heights. I now smoke mainly VAs, VaPers and VABurs. While I no longer smoke aromatics, I respect those that do. As they used to say, different strokes for different folks. |
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