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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 14:37:07 GMT -5
Just blend 'em together and you'll have Grousemere.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Apr 14, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -5
...far too many to name...the only one I don't care for is either SG Cannon Plug or RB Plug...the one that has a fragrance of Honeydew is fine...but the other one sucks...It ghosted one of my Larsons so bad, I haven't smoked it in over twenty years...
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Post by username on Apr 14, 2018 16:02:16 GMT -5
Only two ive had is bosun cut plug unscented and ennerdale. Ennerdale i really enjoy. Bosun i thought was ok.
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Post by Zach on Apr 14, 2018 17:04:09 GMT -5
All Gawith Hoggarth for me.
Ennerdale Flake, Kendal Flake, Rum Cake, Grasmere Flake, and most all other tobaccos pretty much that GH & Co. make. For SG tobaccos I prefer only their Full Virginia Flake, St. James Flake, and Best Brown, yes, these are not considered aromatic tobaccos but they are still Lakeland tobaccos manufactured in the Lakeland district of Kendal.
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Post by Zach on Apr 14, 2018 17:12:21 GMT -5
I've only tried Grousemoor. Interesting. I jarred it for a later re-visit. I have a tin of Ennerdale to try as well. More sampling is required to decide whether I am a Lakeland fan. Would you guys consider 1792 an aromatic due to the whisky topping? 1792 is a full Lakeland scented heavily with tonquin bean and I believe a few other things, like almond flavoring.
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Post by Zach on Apr 14, 2018 17:15:11 GMT -5
They’re not similar. Grousemoor is hard to describe, while Grasmere from GH is straight forward Rose and Geranium over a nice medium-mild VA flake of brights. Both very good. One thing to seriously consider before delving into Lakeland tobaccos is they are for very experienced pipe smokers. They are almost all stronger tobaccos full of nicotine and the flavors often turn people off because they cannot handle them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 18:05:46 GMT -5
I've only tried Grousemoor. Interesting. I jarred it for a later re-visit. I have a tin of Ennerdale to try as well. More sampling is required to decide whether I am a Lakeland fan. Would you guys consider 1792 an aromatic due to the whisky topping? 1792 is a full Lakeland scented heavily with tonquin bean and I believe a few other things, like almond flavoring. I'm curious about your definition of "Lakeland scented", because in 1792 I taste none of the rose/geranium that I normally associate with that term. Almond, maybe, but nothing floral.
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Post by Zach on Apr 14, 2018 19:05:06 GMT -5
1792 is a full Lakeland scented heavily with tonquin bean and I believe a few other things, like almond flavoring. I'm curious about your definition of "Lakeland scented", because in 1792 I taste none of the rose/geranium that I normally associate with that term. Almond, maybe, but nothing floral. Tonquin and other plant essences are Lakeland flavorings. Rose and Geranium are just two essences of nearly 20 and are not in many Lakeland blends as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 20:36:47 GMT -5
" Will ghost a briar and smoked enough times, will do the same to a meer."
Couple of months I picked up an estate Meer the first time I smokes it I found it was ghosted from Lakelands.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 20:42:09 GMT -5
I'm curious about your definition of "Lakeland scented", because in 1792 I taste none of the rose/geranium that I normally associate with that term. Almond, maybe, but nothing floral. Tonquin and other plant essences are Lakeland flavorings. Rose and Geranium are just two essences of nearly 20 and are not in many Lakeland blends as well. Thats interesting because I'm guessing that 90+% of pipe smokers associate Lakeland with floral. Are there other blends that you'd consider Lakeland that do not have the floralness? Sam's Flake, maybe?
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 15, 2018 2:22:34 GMT -5
People have said a few times about it ghosting even a Meer... What about a cob? Well it ghost a cob too?
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 10:47:17 GMT -5
Tonquin and other plant essences are Lakeland flavorings. Rose and Geranium are just two essences of nearly 20 and are not in many Lakeland blends as well. Thats interesting because I'm guessing that 90+% of pipe smokers associate Lakeland with floral. Are there other blends that you'd consider Lakeland that do not have the floralness? Sam's Flake, maybe? Frankly, we’ve went over this for years until it was fully discussed from all angles. Long story short, it’s all sauces or flavorings used in SG or GH tobaccos made in the Kendal Cumbria Lakeland district of the U.K. Things I’ve said as well as others are discussed at length at PSF. Full Virginia Flake is lakeland tobacco. No it doesn’t have floral oils added to it. It’s all the more confusing because a lot of people don’t know what they are tasting. They don’t know what tonquin, or musk, or heliotrope, or almond flavoring, geranium, or rose, so they resort to making things more polar and confusing by just saying things like, “it tastes like a grandma or grandma’s closet.” No offense to the ones in this very thread that already thought that was funny and used that, but no Lakeland tobaccos taste like a grandma, they taste like specific toppings. Some people can’t discern flavors so it makes it all the more confusing and polarized, because they hate what they can’t understand.
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 10:50:32 GMT -5
People have said a few times about it ghosting even a Meer... What about a cob? Well it ghost a cob too? Any one blend of tobacco will ghost any pipe. That’s just an exaggeration you typically see thrown at Lakeland blends. I can smoke 5 bowls of something through my Ennerdale pipes, which is arguably the strongest scented flakes from GH, and still smoke out the ghost. Do it all the time. People really exaggerate ghosts.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 15, 2018 11:03:57 GMT -5
People have said a few times about it ghosting even a Meer... What about a cob? Well it ghost a cob too? Any one blend of tobacco will ghost any pipe. That’s just an exaggeration you typically see thrown at Lakeland blends. I can smoke 5 bowls of something through my Ennerdale pipes, which is arguably the strongest scented flakes from GH, and still smoke out the ghost. Do it all the time. People really exaggerate ghosts. Good to know. I'm not sure I would distinguish the ghost in any case... I can't even distinguish the flavours in tobaccos in general.
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 11:10:19 GMT -5
Any one blend of tobacco will ghost any pipe. That’s just an exaggeration you typically see thrown at Lakeland blends. I can smoke 5 bowls of something through my Ennerdale pipes, which is arguably the strongest scented flakes from GH, and still smoke out the ghost. Do it all the time. People really exaggerate ghosts. Good to know. I'm not sure I would distinguish the ghost in any case... I can't even distinguish the flavours in tobaccos in general. For myself, it took a couple years and trying just about every tobacco out there I could afford to try.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 11:19:49 GMT -5
Let's discuss it at length here if you guys don't mind. Some of us don't frequent PSF or are new to Lakelands. And who really knows how grandmas taste anyway?🤡
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 11:29:47 GMT -5
I really only made that reference due to Chico having been in and tead many of those threads I talked about, and of course we can discuss. All SG and GH only are Lakelands, every tobacco they make is lakeland. Then you scented, or unscented.
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Post by Baboo on Apr 15, 2018 11:43:45 GMT -5
Let's discuss it at length here if you guys don't mind. Some of us don't frequent PSF or are new to Lakelands. And who really knows how grandmas taste anyway?🤡 The phrase "tastes like grandma" actually refers to the perfumery floral scents we might associate with our special times spent with granny... and not her raw flesh, bad breath, or unwashed self (said affectionately with tongue in cheek).
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 12:01:34 GMT -5
Let's discuss it at length here if you guys don't mind. Some of us don't frequent PSF or are new to Lakelands. And who really knows how grandmas taste anyway?🤡 The phrase "tastes like grandma" actually refers to the perfumery floral scents we might associate with our special times spent with granny... and not her raw flesh, bad breath, or unwashed self (said affectionately with tongue in cheek).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 14:02:59 GMT -5
I really only made that reference due to Chico having been in and tead many of those threads I talked about, and of course we can discuss. All SG and GH only are Lakelands, every tobacco they make is lakeland. Then you scented, or unscented. Oh yeah.... I did remember such a discussion but am "mysteriously" unable to log in to PSF or perform any kind of search there. I didn't recall the whole debate or that you were the same guy.... Anyway, to me this is similar to the English-Scottish-Balkan malarkey. In PPP (piper's popular parlance!) we all know what we're talking about when we use such terms even if they're not technically correct or "official". Very few of the "English" blends we smoke are made in England anymore, and probably none of the Scottish, and none of the Balkans (which shouldn't really include Turkish tobacco, but presumably does). But they're useful shorthand. And "Lakeland" has become useful shorthand for the more floral-type blends we're talking about. Sure, all SG/GH are technically "Lakeland", but they don't all feature the floral-type scents and flavors commonly known as "Lakeland" that are featured only in tobaccos made by those blenders (or only by GH, really)? If you distinguish merely as scented or unscented, that's essentially the same as saying aro or non-aro (whisky, chocolate, grape)? Because the scented blends are not named for their scents (instead having names like Ennerdale which tells us nothing), I think it's legit to speak of a typical Lakeland sauce. Plus, people are going to continue to do it anyway. Did I say all this before? My grandma's "scent" was all Jim Beam and Benson & Hedges.
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Post by Baboo on Apr 15, 2018 14:31:23 GMT -5
My grandma's scent was always dainty facial powder and Chanel No. 5... what I'd give to have her near again.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 15, 2018 15:14:32 GMT -5
Someone once said that Old Paris or macouba snuff reminded them of how grandma's underwear smelled.
Which begs the question......
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 15, 2018 15:32:28 GMT -5
Let's discuss it at length here if you guys don't mind. Some of us don't frequent PSF or are new to Lakelands. And who really knows how grandmas taste anyway?🤡 The phrase "tastes like grandma" actually refers to the perfumery floral scents we might associate with our special times spent with granny... and not her raw flesh, bad breath, or unwashed self (said affectionately with tongue in cheek). Lol. For me it's a spot on description. Like her soap or perfume. Who knew she bathed in tonquin?
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Post by Baboo on Apr 15, 2018 18:27:35 GMT -5
One of the reasons I enjoy the floral Lakeland blends is because such various toppings, casings, what-have-you, seem to help accentuate by contrast the Virginia's especially, rather than sublimate them. Examples of this for me are Condor, Revor Plug, Erinmore Plug, Ennerdale Flake, Kendal Flake & Plug, etc... In all, they enhance the experience for me.
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Post by Zach on Apr 15, 2018 20:50:48 GMT -5
Yes, @chico, Sam’s Flake is a Lakeland and is Lakeland scented as well with scents/flavors typical of only the Lakeland tobacco blenders to use. Now, I’m really craving some Ennerdale. One of my absolute favoritres. As Baboo said above the flavors really superbly accentuate the Virginia’s and Malawi used in the flake. The pairing often changes from citrus to vanilla, to citrus-whiskey, to musk and melange flavoring with that African brown VA variety really playing with all those flavors. Get a few ounces if you have not, and I encourage anyone to give Ennerdale at least 2 ounces smoked to give it a trial. There’s a reason why it’s the best selling Gawith Hoggarth tobacco by a wide margin.
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Post by peteguy on Apr 16, 2018 17:45:40 GMT -5
I have probably smoked another 4 ounces of the Black and Brown. I wish more of you would try it so I can feel like I am part of the discussion here. It does everything an aro should do, at least for me. Plus it is in bulk and cheap. It also doesn't remind me of a pair of trailboss panties.
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Post by Baboo on Apr 16, 2018 19:38:43 GMT -5
I have probably smoked another 4 ounces of the Black and Brown. I wish more of you would try it so I can feel like I am part of the discussion here. It does everything an aro should do, at least for me. Plus it is in bulk and cheap. It also doesn't remind me of a pair of trailboss panties. Dang, I thought I've had all the G&H offerings, but lo and behold the Black & Brown somehow escaped me. Will definitely put it on my next shopping list... excited to finally have at it! Thanks peteguy for the wakeup call!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:07:00 GMT -5
I've smoked several Lakeland aromatic blends over the last three months and am hooked. My ranking thus far is: 1. GH Bosun Cut Plug Unscented (Bosun Cut Plug [i.e., scented] is in the mail), 2. GH Rum Flake or Kendal Flake (Both are wonderful - can't make up my mind), 3. GH Ennerdale, 4. SG Kendal Cream, 5. GH Grasmere Flake, 6. GH Brown Flake Vanilla, 6. GH Kendal Dark Vanilla (I need to try this one again. I didn't like it the first time around, but it was my first Lakeland aromatic and, perhaps, a bit of a shock).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:53:21 GMT -5
I've smoked several Lakeland aromatic blends over the last three months and am hooked. My ranking thus far is: 1. GH Bosun Cut Plug Unscented (Bosun Cut Plug [i.e., scented] is in the mail.), 2. GH Rum Flake or Kendal Flake (Both are wonderful - can't make up my mind.), 3. GH Ennerdale, 4. SG Kendal Cream, 5. GH Grasmere Flake, 6. GH Brown Flake Vanilla, 67. GH Kendal Dark Vanilla (I need to try this one again. I didn't like it the first time around, but it was my first Lakeland aromatic and, perhaps, a bit of a shock.). I hate typos.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:31:46 GMT -5
Tried one recently that goes to the bottom of my list: Black Licorice Flake. No licorice whatsoever, and it smoked harsh.
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