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Post by gav on Mar 28, 2018 22:53:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 23:00:41 GMT -5
Nice sign. I think we still have one in the area of Saint Louis, but nothing is like it was in the Seventies (can't believe I am complimenting that horrid decade). We had mall stores like Tobacco Land. In a Victorian style outside mall there was as smokeshop where all the tobacco titles were tied to Sherlock Holmes. I think Grimpen Mire was Captain Spice. Go to shop next to it you could get a derby and cane. Good decade for smokes, if little else. Oh, the Godfather. Something else nice about the Seventies
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 0:37:37 GMT -5
It's very sad when a landmark like this goes out of business after so many years. There used to be a Tinderbox in a nearby mall when I was growing up. I bought a number of pipes there for my father until it finally went out of business sometime in the '90s.
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 29, 2018 1:44:25 GMT -5
Tinderbox stores used to be in every mall here in California... guess what it's like now...
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Post by papipeguy on Mar 29, 2018 8:08:53 GMT -5
We had one here in Bethlehem, Pa. It was more cigar focused and poorly managed. When Cigar International opened their big retail store less than a mile away you can guess what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 9:09:46 GMT -5
A few week ago I picked up a poker that was stamped Tinderbox International. Got it for $9.00.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:28:22 GMT -5
Tinder Box at the mall, once a common site.
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Post by william on Mar 29, 2018 12:25:52 GMT -5
A Tinder Box in a mall is where I started. I still have 6 or 8 pipes I bought there in the late '70s and '80s.
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Post by lestrout on Mar 29, 2018 19:42:28 GMT -5
Yo gav - I was sorry I never made it to the Santa Monica TB before they closed. Likewise, Kramer's. That reminds me, I need to go on over to the TB Haverford store on the Main Line and see what's doing. The last time I was there, Erik Nording came by to host a cigar event, but he had a suitcase of wonderful briar.
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Post by haebar on Mar 29, 2018 20:26:03 GMT -5
The Tinder Box near Dunwoody, Georgia, where I grew up, was the primary instigator in my falling in love with all things pipe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 22:33:03 GMT -5
It's down to us stores like this are going out of business, it's so easy now to buy online, we have got lazy and stopped supporting small business!
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Post by trailboss on Mar 29, 2018 22:44:04 GMT -5
In the late seventies, I would skip school and ride the bus to Towne East in Wichita, even though I didn't smoke a pipe, I loved looking at the pipes on display and sniffing the bulk blends. In about 1982, I visited the Tinderbox in Mountain View at the San Antonio shopping center and bought a small figural turban headed meerschaum pipe and North Sea Tobacco...I thoroughly enjoyed in on my SF/LA/SD run...I wish the people in that store had taken more of a proactive approach in explaining other tobacco blends and more about pipes... From 1986 -2014 I quit smoking. In 2014, I visited the tinderbox in Mesa on Southern Ave., bought a Joh's pipe and a couple pounds of Super Balkan II for about $22.00 a pound on their Wednesday pipe night...they had a group of pipe smokes that gathered on Wednesday's but I always had to be other places and never met up with them....then the store closed shortly after. i found out that the owner still had a Tinderbox in Chandler, and that is where the Arizona pipe club started meeting regularly after our initial meetup at Ye Old pipe shop in Phoenix....then that store went out of business. Knowing what I know about Franchisee cost's and the wane in the pipe business through the eighties, it is understandable why independent cigar shops are now the norm....doesn't stop me from dreaming about the good old days though.
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Post by JimInks on Mar 30, 2018 6:55:30 GMT -5
I shopped at our local Tinderbox from 1978 until it went out of business in 2002. The owner passed away and his half witted, disinterested daughter ran it into death.
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Post by crapgame on Mar 30, 2018 15:55:06 GMT -5
We had one here in Bethlehem, Pa. It was more cigar focused and poorly managed. When Cigar International opened their big retail store less than a mile away you can guess what happened. I was at that shop many times when I was on layover waiting for freight loads from the circuit city warehouse. the first time there the manager kinda looked at me like I didn't belong there... granted I looked like I was Wal-Mart shopping not pipe and cigar shopping/smoking. His tune changed when I bought some tins of FMOTT and Black Mallory then filled a PoTY meer from a forum I belonged to back then. I went as far to offer him a diamond crown cigar, this was before they were available east of the Mississippi River, which he gladly accepted. After that I was his new best friend every time I had a layover and spent my evenings in the shop. I could see how the attitude of the staff etc would be a huge put off to people though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 19:55:17 GMT -5
Sad news. I went to that shop a few times with my dad when I was a kid, and have fond memories of it. I believe that's the branch where sci-fi / fantasy writers Tim Powers and James Blaylock worked. I stopped in a few years ago for some Kentucky Cheroots.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 22:07:53 GMT -5
Spent the night in Palm Springs and whilst walking to the english bar we visit, I saw a sign for Tinder Box, so stopped in and had a look round, lots of items that were more at home in a Hallmark store, but plenty of cigars, only a few tins of Dunhill and about 20 jars with TB blends, I purchased a couple of Nightcap and about 4 different blends to try out.
The owner explained he has been a franchise for about 40 years and he is slowing passing on the business to his family, he said that the problem is that they do not have the same passion so he is unsure of the future!
We spent about an hour there, only 1 other person came into the store and left without purchasing anything, we go to Palm Springs 4-5 times per year, wonder if it will still be there next time!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 22:48:31 GMT -5
This is going by figures from almost twenty years ago, but my doggie groomer rented a place in a strip mall that was right next to another strip mall almost its twin. Stevie's rent in back then was 1500$ a month. Due to the markup in the field he has done quite well. Soap, water, towels and mostly his own labor. The tobacco shop would be facing similar prices then and now (I believe still in business). Can you imagine what he has to sell daily to make that up? Consider extra insurance for smoking. Then there is spoilage. Back then if you did a hundred to two hundred a day you could almost break even, considering extra expenses. Anyway, I wish I could support the local. Maybe I should see if he makes deliveries.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 1, 2018 23:04:54 GMT -5
As kid we always stopped at the Gulf station on the way to town for random amounts of gas. 2$-7$ etc. There was an old man named Andy that pumped it and always had a lollipop in his pocket for 6 year old me. Now when I find a reason to detour through the old home place and take in the sights, I see that old station boarded up. Dormant for nearly two decades.. Sometimes I have to pull over and just wade through the memories that flood through me the way they sometimes do before I can continue on my way. Old Andy has probably been gone for twenty years. Steve King said in the Dark Tower 'The world moves on'. It's a simple sentiment, but also a profound observation. I'm sure some french philosophy covers this, but its heartbreaking to hold the world as it was in one's memories and deal with the fact that those memories are the only proof of it's ever being real. Just thought I'd share that thought. I've never visited a Tinder Box,but I sure as hell know what it's like to miss one. Haha
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 23:11:22 GMT -5
As kid we always stopped at the Gulf station on the way to town for random amounts of gas. 2$-7$ etc. There was an old man named Andy that pumped it and always had a lollipop in his pocket for 6 year old me. Now when I find a reason to detour through the old home place and take in the sights, I see that old station boarded up. Dormant for nearly two decades.. Sometimes I have to pull over and just wade through the memories that flood through me the way they sometimes do before I can continue on my way. Old Andy has probably been gone for twenty years. Steve King said in the Dark Tower 'The world moves on'. It's a simple sentiment, but also a profound observation. I'm sure some french philosophy covers this, but its heartbreaking to hold the world as it was in one's memories and deal with the fact that those memories are the only proof of it's ever being real. Just thought I'd share that thought. I've never visited a Tinder Box,but I sure as hell know what it's like to miss one. Haha Though I guess some would get nightmares on this, but I used to drive through Butcher Town, North Saint Louis... years after I got out of the business. If Xuan was with me I might say, "See that spot? I picked you up at your place and you waited until I loaded up sides of beef on the truck here, or hams there, or pork butts over here. Butcher Town was not an official name, but it was called that for decades. Last time I was there, about fifteen years ago, one slaughterhouse was left. It may not have been as big as the Chicago Stockyards of Sinclair's novel, but it was pretty damned huge. Each slaughterhouse had rows (like at an amusement park) for cattle to move up one at a time. I felt closer to the earth then as opposed to now, where it's all boxed beef from Saint Elsewhere.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 1, 2018 23:18:45 GMT -5
My home town had a population of 6k as a kid. The factories(cardboard boxes, glass, and pottery) closed down and today, I believe it's in the neighborhood of 1600. As with 'Butcher Town' it makes one wonder where the hell things are now being made. Haha
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 23:27:01 GMT -5
My home town had a population of 6k as a kid. The factories(cardboard boxes, glass, and pottery) closed down and today, I believe it's in the neighborhood of 1600. As with 'Butcher Town' it makes one wonder where the hell things are now being made. Haha Went to IBP boxed beef for a while, from Iowa. I just never hear them mentioned anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 12:57:25 GMT -5
Small town small business has disappeared forever, sad state of affairs, didn't Alan Jackson write a song about it!
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Post by Sorringowl on Apr 2, 2018 13:15:51 GMT -5
I had the good fortune to visit the old Tinder box in Santa Monica before it closed. The place had a lot of history, but, sadly, old time tobacco shops are becoming near extinct in Los Angeles.
Recently, Kramer's Pipe Shop in Beverly Hills closed its doors as well. It seems cigar shops/bars do well in this city but very few cater to pipe smokers as well.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 2, 2018 14:17:40 GMT -5
My home town had a population of 6k as a kid. The factories(cardboard boxes, glass, and pottery) closed down and today, I believe it's in the neighborhood of 1600. As with 'Butcher Town' it makes one wonder where the hell things are now being made. Haha Went to IBP boxed beef for a while, from Iowa. I just never hear them mentioned anymore. I will then! The beef ribs in my other post had IBP on the cryovac. Back in the 80’s I handled a lot of IBP product, they were definitely king of the hill... they pretty much broke the back of the butchers union... and from what I was told back then, they had a lot to do with the ending of hauling swinging beef, it all went to boxed, that was a good thing IMHO....certainly a force to be reckoned with. I have been out of the meat business for many moons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 14:26:52 GMT -5
Went to IBP boxed beef for a while, from Iowa. I just never hear them mentioned anymore. I will then! The beef ribs in my other post had IBP on the cryovac. Back in the 80’s I handled a lot of IBP product, they were definitely king of the hill... they pretty much broke the back of the butchers union... and from what I was told back then, they had a lot to do with the ending of hauling swinging beef, it all went to boxed, that was a good thing IMHO....certainly a force to be reckoned with. I have been out of the meat business for many moons. I can't kick too much about Boxed Beef as I feel it actually lowered some costs. However, IBP swinging beef was a beautiful thing to look at and pick out. I've toyed with the idea of buying a boxed boneless chuck from my butcher. Curious what brand he sells.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 2, 2018 14:30:06 GMT -5
I used to get exclusively Certified Angus Beef from National out of Liberal Kansas.... at wholesale prices.
It was a rude awakening for me when we started eating a lot more chicken in my post meat career.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:16:58 GMT -5
Recently, Kramer's Pipe Shop in Beverly Hills closed its doors as well. It seems cigar shops/bars do well in this city but very few cater to pipe smokers as well. I hadn't heard that Kramer's closed. Sad indeed.
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Post by driftingfate on Apr 2, 2018 20:40:39 GMT -5
Bought my first pipes from a friendly Tinder Box manager while in college.
Two deep, dark secrets I trust the collective won't hold against me: I like aromatics, and my current favorite is Tinder Box Wilshire (not my all-time fav, but of what is in current production.). I know, sweet, yeah, too much so, wet, if you don't let it dry a bit, but we are doomed to like what we like. Of course, I never claimed a sophisticated pallet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:43:23 GMT -5
Have to say, Tinder Box Very Cherry is not bad!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 20:46:54 GMT -5
Bought my first pipes from a friendly Tinder Box manager while in college. Two deep, dark secrets I trust the collective won't hold against me: I like aromatics, and my current favorite is Tinder Box Wilshire (not my all-time fav, but of what is in current production.). I know, sweet, yeah, too much so, wet, if you don't let it dry a bit, but we are doomed to like what we like. Of course, I never claimed a sophisticated pallet. you don't have to apologize for smoking Aromatics on this Forum, David.
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