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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 16:17:39 GMT -5
So I've heard a bit recently about mold on tobacco and I'm concerned about my investment.
I currently have about 14 tins or pouches open which I alternate. However, with my infrequent smoking these will stay open for years to come. should I be concerned about mold? Is it a common occurrence or something that just happens from time to time?
And while I don't use Mason jars cos I've no space, I'm thinking that even opening the tin to transfer can introduce mold spores anyway so does that even make a difference?
Is there any way to prevent it?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
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Post by peteguy on Apr 16, 2018 17:34:01 GMT -5
I can't help you because it is my theory mold is location oriented. Those of us in dry, desert climates will be hard pressed to offer any personal advice.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 17:35:36 GMT -5
I can't help you because it is my theory mold is location oriented. Those of us in dry, desert climates will be hard pressed to offer any personal advice. If that's the case I'm screwed. Maybe my only saving grace is that it's not hot and wet, just wet. |
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Post by papipeguy on Apr 16, 2018 17:46:00 GMT -5
Mold is an interesting topic but is not a prevalent issue for most. C&D had a major mess 2 summers ago because they changed their antifungal agent. If you are concerned you can make a mixture of calcium propionate and distilled water and spray your tobacco. One of our club members treated many pounds of a D&R blend that was suspect. The CP is cheap and a pound will last you a lifetime. I don't remember the % CP to distilled water but it is low.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 17:50:10 GMT -5
Mold is an interesting topic but is not a prevalent issue for most. C&D had a major mess 2 summers ago because they changed their antifungal agent. If you are concerned you can make a mixture of calcium propionate and distilled water and spray your tobacco. One of our club members treated many pounds of a D&R blend that was suspect. The CP is cheap and a pound will last you a lifetime. I don't remember the % CP to distilled water but it is low. Cheers for that tip. I do keep them in a drawer in my office which is in my garage, but there are a few bags of silica gel in with them too. I'm not sure if I'm concerned or if I should be concerned. From the looks of it, if it's not a prevalent issue then I'll hopefully be ok. If C&D had an antifungal agent in their tobacco I'm assuming others have too. |
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Post by peteguy on Apr 16, 2018 17:53:12 GMT -5
Keep it in a freezer?
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Post by peteguy on Apr 16, 2018 17:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by papipeguy on Apr 16, 2018 18:04:49 GMT -5
LL, most use an agent. McClelland was famous for their "ketchup" odor because they use vinegar.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 17, 2018 1:33:16 GMT -5
LL, most use an agent. McClelland was famous for their "ketchup" odor because they use vinegar. That makes sense now. I won't worry too much then. And thanks for the link peteguy |
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Post by william on Apr 17, 2018 6:13:55 GMT -5
Legend Lover, I live in the wettest city in the US. And there is plenty heat and humidity as well. We get just shy of 6' of rain here yearly. I have to powerwash the house, the deck, my BBQ grill, twice a year to keep the mold and mildew at bay. Even the old truck that I keep parked outside grows green stuff on the north side (the side facing south gets the morning sun and is usually OK). But I have NEVER had mold in tobacco. Hope that helps put your mind at ease.... ")
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 17, 2018 7:32:48 GMT -5
Legend Lover, I live in the wettest city in the US. And there is plenty heat and humidity as well. We get just shy of 6' of rain here yearly. I have to powerwash the house, the deck, my BBQ grill, twice a year to keep the mold and mildew at bay. Even the old truck that I keep parked outside grows green stuff on the north side (the side facing south gets the morning sun and is usually OK). But I have NEVER had mold in tobacco. Hope that helps put your mind at ease.... ") That really does put my mind at ease. Thank you. |
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Post by lestrout on Apr 17, 2018 11:30:02 GMT -5
Yo LL
Mold and its spores are everywhere. The key with your tobacco is to keep it in conditions that won't let the mold take hold and grow. Keeping the leaf on the dry side helps. If the tobacco was treated before you got it with an antifungal agent like calcium proprionate, you're ahead of the game.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 17, 2018 11:45:51 GMT -5
Yo LL Mold and its spores are everywhere. The key with your tobacco is to keep it in conditions that won't let the mold take hold and grow. Keeping the leaf on the dry side helps. If the tobacco was treated before you got it with an antifungal agent like calcium proprionate, you're ahead of the game. hp les Cheers. I suppose time will tell. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 12:48:13 GMT -5
I've had mold on cigars but never on pipe tobacco. As well as climate and humidity, it must also have to do with the tobacco leaf itself, and what was going on in the warehouse etc. I checked one of my humidors last year, and out of about 20 cigars only one had mold. Fortunately, those it was touching were in cellophane. Unfortunately, it was my only Fuente Opus X.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 17, 2018 12:50:21 GMT -5
Living in western PA which can pretty much be a rain forest, I have yet to see mold.
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Post by herbinedave on Apr 17, 2018 14:42:52 GMT -5
Invest in some mason jars.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 17, 2018 17:15:59 GMT -5
Invest in some mason jars. I will, but I need to invest in space first (not shares in nasa). But if spores are in the air anyway, unless I transfer to a mason jar in a vacuum then what difference will that make? Surely the spores will be in the jar along with the tobacco, no? |
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Post by herbinedave on Apr 17, 2018 17:18:32 GMT -5
Invest in some mason jars. I will, but I need to invest in space first (not shares in nasa). But if spores are in the air anyway, unless I transfer to a mason jar in a vacuum then what difference will that make? Surely the spores will be in the jar along with the tobacco, no? You are worrying to much. I have a modest to medium sized cellar and I don't worry. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 17, 2018 17:28:25 GMT -5
I will, but I need to invest in space first (not shares in nasa). But if spores are in the air anyway, unless I transfer to a mason jar in a vacuum then what difference will that make? Surely the spores will be in the jar along with the tobacco, no? You are worrying to much. I have a modest to medium sized cellar and I don't worry. That's the consensus. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 15:04:28 GMT -5
I have had a few mold (one might have been bacteria) issues in the last year. They have been in vintage tins, which is why I stopped buying vintage for a while. I am selective of what type of tin it is, and if I have knowledge if they are bagged inside. This refers to larger tins.
Today I opened up a tin that had been previously opened, but never smoked. About six months old. I have never seen this on any new blend I purchased, even after transferring it, etc. It was C&D Bourbon Bleu, and sadly was a Crumble cake. Def not plum. Covered all over in spreading fashion. No little nodes.
Just a suggestion. I don't recall where I bought it from and am not bothering to look it up, but anyone with a tin may want to open and smoke. Open and add some PG.
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Post by haebar on May 24, 2018 6:33:11 GMT -5
I have only had mold problems on two occasions, one of them being fairly recently. I discovered some Mason jars of C&D Poplar Camp had molded; the tobacco had been purchased in 2016. I contacted C&D (actually Jeremy Reeves replied) and asked them if they had received any other reports of this happening with this blend and they said no. They sent me a pound of Poplar Camp to replace it; got it in the mail yesterday! The other time I got mold on tobacco was after I received a shipment of whole leaf tobacco and was not able to open it and lay the leaves out to breathe for two days. Some of the leaves must have been packed moist because when I opened the packages to inspect them, they had already started to mold. But not all of the leaves were ruined; I was able to save about 2/3 of the two affected pounds.
In addition to paying attention to the moisture content of our tobacco, we also need to wash our hands before handling tobacco to prevent the contamination of the tobacco with mold spores we may have picked up. Also, when you re-use your canning jars, run them through a dishwasher or wash them well by hand to prevent the possibility of spreading anything from one batch to another.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 24, 2018 7:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by cigrmaster on May 24, 2018 10:25:10 GMT -5
I have lived in SW Florida since 2003. Never have I ever seen a drop of mold. My house never gets above 74 or below 68.
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