read any good books lately?

Ron, I re-read my post. I did not intend for it to read quite the way it does. I know what the term is and why it is used. I have Axe to grind here. What I wanted was to hear what Chico was proposing as a better term to refer to those tribes. My comments about using the terms a culture finds to be properly descriptive and not offensive were not about the 5CT, which is a useful term, but more about what Native Americans find offensive or acceptable as a general way of referring to them as a people and a culture. I learned many, many years ago that the term the general public might use for a group of people is often not what they find accurate or acceptable. That's all I was getting at.
The three books I mentioned go far towards explaining what I am referring to. Things we don't think much about are sore points for Native Americans. Those books illustrate a lot of the pain and misunderstanding that remains. Thanks for your perspective too, Chico. Peace,

Ron, it is none of your business whether it affects me personally or not. I was also not offended as you say. Also, I did not personally criticize you. I commented on a broader topic and you assumed all sorts of intent. I interact with Native Americans of several tribal affiliations on an occasional basis. I try to do the right thing by them. That's all.

No, I got the impression you were angry with me, Ron. I am only slightly aggravated. Not because I am mad at you but because text communication and poor wording I fear, on my part has caused a misunderstanding. If we were sitting in the same room discussing the topic, it would be much better. I am not a big PC kind of guy, but am very passionate about trying to walk a mile in the other guy's moccasins. I apologize sincerely if I offended you or Chico.

I think we are all good. I used the standard terminology for the topic that I am specifically interested in. I could have specified Cherokee and Choctaw, which is my genetic heritage, but the interaction with the other three tribes is intrinsic to the story. I wasn't calling any other native Americans uncivilized. In fact, the only native Americans that I have had contact with in the past have been Navajo and Pueblo, and we have had a good time. Very civilized people by my standards at least. Better than most. I really don't understand what you guys were thinking that there was something I didn't understood. I have been dealing with the tribes for a few months now and I am being extremely careful about stepping on toes. Being a member of the tribe depends on the Dawes Rolls of 1898,a US government document. My great grandmother and grandfather are listed. I don't know yet if my grandmother was on it, or if she was ever listed as a member of a tribe. She could be Cherokee or Choctaw. She was 50/50.
If you start looking for books about Indian culture, you will find that the more Europeans they killed, the more people want to read about them. Kinda like Shark Week.

Ron, I think one problem with texting can arise when people use all caps. It is the equivalent of shouting and denotes anger to most who read it. I don't do it myself, because I have seen it lead to heated argument, where none is merited. By the way, the Dineh, Hopi and Zuni are my favorite Native American cutltures to read about. Have you ever read any of Tony Hillerman's fiction? Great stories in great settings involving tribal police and reservation life.

I agree with this statement.  As a regular on some other wild forums, which I love, this place is an island of tranquility.

My son has about 3 Conan books that he re-reads every year. (he's 30).
For some reason I always preferred Doc Savage.

He kind of limits his scope. I have 10 years of Analog magazines and he won't touch them. Lovecraft, now, he could write the definitive biography. I have heard his comments on the existing ones.

Major fan here.  More of the WT tales crowd than the hero pulps (though I do dig the Shadow and a few others). Howard is lower on my list than Clark Ashton Smith, Lovecraft, and Frank Belknap Long, though.

For the truly weird, I agree all those mentioned would top REH, but something about REH has always appealed to me.  He could write great weird when he wanted, but he was more into the high adventure and fantasy stuff.  I probably have most of his stories in one form or another, except of some his cowboy or boxing stories.  Check out my other post about the stuff available on Archive.org.  Reading old Weird Tales, especially with non-famous authors, is a lot of fun on a dark night.

Books aside, I'm impressed with how the conversion righted itself and things were ironed out well.

You guys are what makes the forum great.

And for anyone who is reading this post, I ONLY use caps to put stress on a word. It's never for 'shouting'. Since I post mostly from my phone, it's too much hassle to do the square brackets etc. to italicise.

My wife’s father was full bloodied Blackfoot, her family was German, trying to trace his family we came upon an interesting fact that I’m throwing out to you intellectual fellows, which I’m not in company. In Census records many Indians put down black as race as it was more offensive in Oklahoma to be Indian than black. That was info the head Census man told us at an Oklahoma library also adjacent Gov office. My wife’s father abandoned his family and I scratched for my wife’s sake and found him, 50 miles away in a small country cemetery. Not a happy ending.

It's sad that that's how society was...and still is in many ways. 

I got them a couple of years back, and read them like an opened package of m&ms.  Addicting fun. Nicotine's got nothing on these.