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Post by daveincollamer on May 7, 2018 11:36:35 GMT -5
I purchased a small portable smoker (Master Craft Jr. propane) a few months back, just got around to trying it. The results, I thought, were impressive. Tried some pork shoulder, marinated in apple cider and Whillinghams Wham seasoning with garlic and onion. Used the marinade as my steam. Soaked some apple chips in water before using. Any recipes, successes, failures out there?
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Post by exchef on May 7, 2018 11:49:13 GMT -5
Dave,
as a former professional chef and avid smoker of more than tobacco, I whole heartedly suggest that if you plan to get into smoking meats to ditch the propane. There is a decent amount of moisture in the fuel release that will prevent a true bark from forming on your end product. Not to say that you can’t make a damned good smoked item within it but charcoal is the best for this application. As far as charcoal, stick with natural stuff, skip the briquettes they are held together with paraffin and other unnatural things which is why the are “match light”.
Now onto recipes, by in large I have found that a good cut of meat only ever needs salt and pepper and the to be nestled into the smoker until it reaches perfection. Chicken and Pork both work quite well with brining so always suggest that when you have the time.
Sticking with the salt and pepper, you will get to taste more of the flavors from the wood that you are smoking with, rather than the seasonings you applied.
Please feel free to reach out to me with other questions, I’m around a LOT!
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Post by daveincollamer on May 7, 2018 11:58:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I would agree with you on all your points. I bought this smoker to see if I even liked the idea, my thinking, I would have a brick one built on our patio if I had any aptitude for it. The portable one would go into the motorhome for use while camping/traveling.
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Post by pappyjoe on May 7, 2018 13:14:08 GMT -5
I would ditch the charcoal briquet usage as well as the propane. Either buy the whole lump charcoal or actual dried hickory, cherry or my favorite, pecan wood. Do not use charcoal lighter either. I use the wood chips and newspaper to start the fire. Don't worry about the ink used for the newspaper - it's a vegetable based ink.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2018 13:37:50 GMT -5
Some great advice here. I have a pizza oven that I think could double up as a smoker. I might give it a go some day.
That picture is mouth watering.
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Post by trailboss on May 7, 2018 13:46:34 GMT -5
To further muddy the water, I initially start with woods, pecan typically because it is available...and coal for extended smoking such as ribs and butts.
A charcoal chimney works great for starting coals with and maintaining the fire. I have a cast iron smoker with an offset firebox, but you can achieve really good results with a Weber kettle and using the indirect cooking method. You need a really good set of thermometers like the Maverick digital to maintain consistent temps in the cooking chamber, and an instant read thermometer like the Thermapen to verify the secondary meat probe on the Maverick... consistency is everything.
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Post by exchef on May 7, 2018 13:58:37 GMT -5
Some great advice here. I have a pizza oven that I think could double up as a smoker. I might give it a go some day. That picture is mouth watering. LL, few more things for you to drool over: ExChef
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Post by roadsdiverged on May 7, 2018 14:11:19 GMT -5
Ive been smoking meats for roughly 15 years now. I agree with only salt and pepper and using wood. Someone bought me a propane "smoker" for christmas one year and the only thing I ever made with it was loads of beef jerky.
Pork Ribs and Boston butts are my go to. Chicken is also great. Pecan (readily available because I live in south Georgia), Hickory and Apple are my favorite woods to use. Mesquite tends to give it a peppery taste to me. I usually smoke them about 3-4 hours, wrap them in tin foil for a little while and let them get tender, unwrap and enjoy.
Ive used several different home made rubs with all kinds of different seasoning over the years. For the last 2-3 years its been back to simple salt and pepper.
Since I quit drinking, I quit firing up the smoker as much. All those hours of slow cooking gave me a good reason to throw back some (too much) beer.
Also, if you have a big cut of meat, i suggest getting some BIG potatoes. Poke some holes in them, wrap them in onions and bacon and then aluminum foil. Just let them cook as long as your meat is going. Youll thank me later. 😊
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2018 14:51:52 GMT -5
Some great advice here. I have a pizza oven that I think could double up as a smoker. I might give it a go some day. That picture is mouth watering. LL, few more things for you to drool over: ExChef I've flooded the living room.
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Post by Stanhill on May 7, 2018 14:55:46 GMT -5
I've never tried to smoke meat; I just smoke my usual tobaccos.
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Post by exchef on May 7, 2018 16:07:49 GMT -5
I've never tried to smoke meat; I just smoke my usual tobaccos. Sometimes they can be hard to get properly lit, but once you have 'em going they can't be beat! ExChef
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2018 16:12:08 GMT -5
Maybe in the future, if the tobacco industry goes caput along with our cellars, we'll be putting cubes of bacon in our pipes and smoking that.
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Post by username on May 7, 2018 18:11:19 GMT -5
The hard part is finding a rolling paper big enough. 😉
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Post by peteguy on May 7, 2018 20:59:25 GMT -5
Smoke tobacco and eat the meat.
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Post by crapgame on May 7, 2018 21:28:20 GMT -5
take a whole pork loin and wrap in bacon... smoke using lump charcoal and apple chips... very nice indeed.
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Post by daveincollamer on May 9, 2018 9:17:59 GMT -5
Allright, I am going to take Chef's advise, smoking a turkey this weekend. Using salt and pepper suspended in olive oil as the rub. Can of beer in the cavity for extra moisture. Stay tuned.
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Post by exchef on May 16, 2018 15:03:32 GMT -5
Allright, I am going to take Chef's advise, smoking a turkey this weekend. Using salt and pepper suspended in olive oil as the rub. Can of beer in the cavity for extra moisture. Stay tuned. Dave, It's been sufficiently long enough for that turkey to have smoked. How was it? Where are the pics? ExChef
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Post by daveincollamer on May 18, 2018 12:39:38 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I finally smoked the turkey last night. It was so late in getting finished, I pulled the meat off the bone and went to bed. Sorry no pictures. I took Chef's advice, olive oil brushed on a dry surface, with salt and pepper rub (a little garlic salt thrown in). Stuffed the cavity with a quartered onion, sliced apple and three garlic gloves. Topped off the cavity with a can of open beer and proceeded to smoke it for...…………………….ever. High winds caused havoc with my smoker, what should have taken 6ish hours (12 pound turkey), took over ten. Shortly before midnight, I was able to reach 160 degrees in the thighs and breasts. All in all, it was delicious. Again, sorry for not taking any photos, I have another in the freezer that I am going to do the same. I will take pictures of the results.
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Post by trailboss on May 18, 2018 13:13:37 GMT -5
I know that I am late to the party...missed the pre-turkey post.
Another method of smoking a turkey is to make an herbed butter, with garlic and chopped green onions get it mixed well together, and starting at the bottom of the breast, work your fingers up under the skin, eventually loosening the skin up and around the legs, taking care to not rip the skin in doings so.....Rub the herbed butter liberally on the meat, and up and around the legs.
That works really well on penetrating the meat through the cooking process, and you will have a great tasting turkey, and unbelievably moist meat.
Don't do like me though...Years ago as I lifted the turkey from the grill and over to the pan on the table off to the side, the body of the bird split open dumping the sizzling butter on my bare feet, washing the skin from the top of my foot into the grass....I didn't feel it much that day, but it sucked for quite awhile to heal up from that brain fart...no more cooking with bare feet.
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Post by exchef on May 18, 2018 15:51:23 GMT -5
I know that I am late to the party...missed the pre-turkey post. Another method of smoking a turkey is to make an herbed butter, with garlic and chopped green onions get it mixed well together, and starting at the bottom of the breast, work your fingers up under the skin, eventually loosening the skin up and around the legs, taking care to not rip the skin in doings so.....Rub the herbed butter liberally on the meat, and up and around the legs. That works really well on penetrating the meat through the cooking process, and you will have a great tasting turkey, and unbelievably moist meat. Don't do like me though...Years ago as I lifted the turkey from the grill and over to the pan on the table off to the side, the body of the bird split open dumping the sizzling butter on my bare feet, washing the skin from the top of my foot into the grass....I didn't feel it much that day, but it sucked for quite awhile to heal up from that brain fart...no more cooking with bare feet. Yeah, that's an important one. I was shifting some coals around in my smoker to make room for some additional charcoal and didn't notice that i had kicked a couple out of the fire box. Needless to say that when I stepped on the white hot ember it stuck to the bottom of my foot and had to use tongs to pull it off. WILL. NEVER. DO. THAT. AGAIN. was about a month before I could walk properly, still have a numb spot. ExChef
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Post by exchef on May 18, 2018 15:57:39 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I finally smoked the turkey last night. It was so late in getting finished, I pulled the meat off the bone and went to bed. Sorry no pictures. I took Chef's advice, olive oil brushed on a dry surface, with salt and pepper rub (a little garlic salt thrown in). Stuffed the cavity with a quartered onion, sliced apple and three garlic gloves. Topped off the cavity with a can of open beer and proceeded to smoke it for...…………………….ever. High winds caused havoc with my smoker, what should have taken 6ish hours (12 pound turkey), took over ten. Shortly before midnight, I was able to reach 160 degrees in the thighs and breasts. All in all, it was delicious. Again, sorry for not taking any photos, I have another in the freezer that I am going to do the same. I will take pictures of the results. Dave, Sounds like ti was good. Always expect good bb q to take HOURS. Low and slow is the name of this game. Also, if you have time to brine the turkey, something simple, it will penetrate the flesh and keep it nice, moist and flavorful.
When I do briskets or shoulders, I tend to expect a minimum of 8 - 10hrs, sometimes I will cheat a little bit and get a good smoking on a shoulder and then chuck it into the crockpot for the next few hours.
Anyway, next time, pics or it didn't happen!
ExChef
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Post by Darin on May 18, 2018 16:22:46 GMT -5
We had a BBQ last night and I tossed in some chunks of Plum Wood I had cut ... first time trying it and it was great. Burgers, Ribs, Chicken and Corn still in the husk (the best way!)
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Post by beardedmi on May 18, 2018 20:00:59 GMT -5
I love love love smoking over maple. Its the wood I use most and love the sweetness of flavor it gives. Cook any meat over it and be prepared to be blown away.
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Post by mgtarheel on May 18, 2018 22:08:19 GMT -5
Just one thing. "Low & Slow"
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Post by trailboss on May 19, 2018 13:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by exchef on May 20, 2018 13:38:34 GMT -5
Decided to fire up the smoker while the family and I are cleaning in the house. Got 3lbs of chicken thigh and an equal amount of country style pork ribs. Seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper (quite a bit) and are nestled in the smoker with some maple in the fire box.
Good eats to follow, and pics!
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Post by trailboss on May 20, 2018 15:53:31 GMT -5
We should get something like a purple foot award for bravery in barbecue above and beyond the call of duty...or maybe bubba the barbecuer would be appropriate.
at least we didn't do this:
He was outside by himself, when everyone else went inside, what a horrible way to go...I can't imagine trying to scramble out of a pit full of burning coals.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 20, 2018 16:08:14 GMT -5
Yikes. That's an awful way to go.
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Post by Darin on May 20, 2018 16:17:42 GMT -5
Yikes. That's an awful way to go.
... but ... how did he taste?
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Post by trailboss on May 20, 2018 16:26:01 GMT -5
Yikes. That's an awful way to go.
... but ... how did he taste?
Probably like a heavily infused Buweiser carbon cake!
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