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Post by jeffd on Jun 12, 2018 11:04:16 GMT -5
I have a friend with a 35 foot sail boat. He routinely takes it on overnight voyages along the coast. I am going with him this summer, from the NJ coast up through the East River, NYC, and out to Long Island Sound.
He smokes pipe while sailing. Routinely. He tells me he smokes because prevents (or at least helps with helps with) motion sickness.
I found that surprising because, I when googled it, years ago, I found that smoking has no effect on motion sickness or nausea, and in fact nicotine is contra-indicated. But everything I saw was smoking in general, cigarettes included.
Maybe its because pipes are delightfully fiddly, with tamping and relighting and moving from left molars to right molars, and sipping, it keeps your mind off the waves inside your belly.
Or maybe its because he smokes pipe all the time, and is not going to stop just because he's on a boat.
So does pipe smoking help or hurt sea sickness?
Admiral Lord Nelson said that the only cure for sea sickness was to go sit under a tree.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 12, 2018 11:07:46 GMT -5
That's interesting. I'm not often in a boat.
I do get car sick if I'm a passenger, but I don't know any pipe smoking friends who'd let me smoke in their car to test out the theory.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 11:22:23 GMT -5
It’s the strength of the nicotine....so take with you a medium and just above medium nic level blend. Don’t go strong on your first voyage trying this method. Might make you a bit light headed if the nic level is on the stronger side. The nic balances your equilibrium due to the fact that the nic keeps you calm. Always worked on my friend. As for me I never suffered from seasickness. Even in the extremely rough waters of the Mediterranean Sea.
Enjoy your voyage!!! I’ve done that exact trip on a friend’s boat a few years back. You must view the Throgs Neck Bridge at night.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 12, 2018 11:30:45 GMT -5
On small boats I get sea sick when we are not moving. The gently jostling of the the water is worse for me than smashing the waves.
Now on my only ocean cruise, to Antarctica, across the Drake Passage. On the return trip, going north against the waves, wow, that got me going.
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Post by joeman on Jun 12, 2018 11:34:01 GMT -5
I would (personally) disagree with this; I've got quite a sensitivity to motion sickness, and boating has been an issue. For me, smoking is indeed a contraindication...makes motion issues worse. I would personally be downing some dramamine or other motion-related products, and if I were going to 'smoke on the water'...it would be the mildest blend I've got.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 11:49:35 GMT -5
I would (personally) disagree with this; I've got quite a sensitivity to motion sickness, and boating has been an issue. For me, smoking is indeed a contraindication...makes motion issues worse. I would personally be downing some dramamine or other motion-related products, and if I were going to 'smoke on the water'...it would be the mildest blend I've got. The nicotine helped my friend much better than taking Dramamine pills. Your doctor can also prescribe a slow release Dramamine patch you put behind your ear. A family member swears by the patch. But everyone is different. |
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Post by joeman on Jun 12, 2018 11:56:59 GMT -5
Yep, I agree with that Ted. Everyone is different, and my experience may certainly not be textbook.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 12, 2018 12:37:32 GMT -5
A lot of folks got sick crossing the Drake Passage, whether using a patch, or pills, or drinking ginger ale, we all got pretty sick.
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Post by toshtego on Jun 12, 2018 12:49:30 GMT -5
The last ocean voyage in a small boat involved much sickness. Took about three days to gain equilibrium. Did not smoke during that time as I was too busy retching. When normalcy took hold, re-lit the pipe. Erinmore Flake was the standard issue on the boat. Still have the Kaywoodie Chesterfield veteran of that cruise. It could have been that smoking helped.
When we finally landed in Isafjordur and I went ashore, had to grasp the brass rail at the cafe/bar to hold on while drinks were poured. Since this was a commercial fishing town, most public places had a rail along the counter for the fisherman to grasp.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jun 12, 2018 13:02:07 GMT -5
 Years ago my Uncle went Shrimping with my Dad and could not get right, he finally ate a raw potato and that settled his stomach, just a thought.
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Post by cgvt on Jun 12, 2018 13:09:55 GMT -5
When I was in the Coast Guard we use to say that when it comes to sea sickness, there's them that has been and them that will be. I spent most of my adult life on boats and small ships. I never threw up from sea sickness, but I have felt pretty damn bad and I've seen some pretty salty sailors lose their lunch. We always used to tell people to try to get your mind off of it, try to do some work of some type, so I would think smoking and fiddling with a pipe might help as long as the nicotine doesn't kick your a$$. I wouldn't smoke a pipe below decks, though. I think that would add to any ill feelings you might have
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Post by jeffd on Jun 12, 2018 13:44:40 GMT -5
Puking below decks is also ill advised.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 12, 2018 14:00:59 GMT -5
Yep, I agree with that Ted. Everyone is different, and my experience may certainly not be textbook. It's still a good excuse to light up on a boat. |
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Post by puffy on Jun 12, 2018 14:44:39 GMT -5
I got sick once on a charter fishing boat.It's not a nice feeling.We were headed to the gulf stream.The water got so rough the boat turned around and came back to shore.That was my one and only attempt at deep sea fishing..At least I got my money back.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jun 12, 2018 16:50:00 GMT -5
I got sea sick one time when I was kid. After that, it never bothered me regardless of the size of the boat or the waves. That 1 time it did happen though, I was miserable.
Dramamine works for my dad and he will not go on a boat without taking it first. He always says "why chance it?"
I could see how fiddling with a pipe might help it, or maybe just distract you. But I could also see how a strong niche blend could make things a whole lot worse. No first hand experience because it's no longer an issue for me.
I'm very curious now...
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 13, 2018 0:49:22 GMT -5
I am against fire on a sailboat, for general principles. Also, be aware that the first thing to go over the side will be the most expensive item on deck,and anything fragile below deck will get broken. When I had sailboats, the staff at Boat US even knew when my wife's birthday was.
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Post by antb on Jun 13, 2018 6:38:58 GMT -5
I use nicotine for sea sickness with great effect. A lot of skippers in our industry agree....and then there's them that don't  I do not spend hours at sea, but my job requires me to do short trips from time to time. That's why it's only cobs at work. |
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Post by flyinmanatee on Jun 15, 2018 0:48:42 GMT -5
I've tried it all including smoking the funny stuff but when the seas hit 6 feet I'm done. The only thing that remotely helps is catching one fish after another.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 17, 2018 16:37:09 GMT -5
I smoked a big ol' bowl of Quiet Nights earlier, and then immediately went out fishing, and vaped quite a bit while out there. The wind picked up. I would not say that the heavy nic hit helped any. I'm no stranger to boats either. I own two. I feel pretty lousy.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 17, 2018 16:51:10 GMT -5
When I lived in California, I got seasick several times on my buddy’s boat... never did get my sea legs. I talked to a guy who worked for his father in the fishing charter business out of Monterey, he told me he hat if he stayed on shore for six months or so doing the rentals, he would lose his sea legs.
I tried everything under the sun to no avail, my problem I think was that I consistently never went out to sea on a regular basis.
Someone told my brother that if he ate a bunch of Marazene, you could trip on it so he did. He spent twelve hours in hell, living out the worst horror movie imaginable. His buddy’s face melted into a carnivorous monster wanting to consume him.
Not recommended.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 17, 2018 17:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by Darin on Jun 17, 2018 17:40:27 GMT -5
The only experience I have with motion sickness was a trip to Cabo San Lucas for some Yellow Fin Tuna fishing. About half way to our spot, the night before's beer and food decided it was done just sitting around. Laughing at my expense, the captain and crew told me to wait until we were closer to our spot before I started "chumming". Even though I was green and nauseous, our boat caught the most fish that day!  |
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Post by cgvt on Jun 17, 2018 18:07:39 GMT -5
"No wonder you got sick. You had all that puke in your stomach"
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Post by jeffd on Jun 19, 2018 14:35:27 GMT -5
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Years ago my Uncle went Shrimping with my Dad and could not get right, he finally ate a raw potato and that settled his stomach, just a thought.
