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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 4:43:43 GMT -5
Yes, I’m an Aldo fan. I own over 25 Aldo’s and the model pictured below is from their most expensive series....Ultima Edition. The pipe lists for $150.00, that’s not what I paid for it....believe me! The issue I have is when the briar gets warm the dye/stain gets all over my fingers when I hold the pipe. For this reason the pipe has only been smoked 3 times. What I need to do is hand sand the briar completely and use a good stain and finish the bowl with White Diamond then Carnauba wax. Ain’t getting smoked again until that happens!!!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 15, 2018 5:34:04 GMT -5
That must be annoying.
Has the stain not been 'cured' enough? I'm not even sure if that's the correct term. I've seen on YouTube that after staining, the pipe is put under a flame (that's what I'm calling 'curing' in this post). I'm wondering if that isn't done properly could that cause what's happening to your pipe?
I'm grasping at straws here. Someone will add the correct response. Ignore this post (except for my empathy).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 5:58:28 GMT -5
That must be annoying. Has the stain not been 'cured' enough? I'm not even sure if that's the correct term. I've seen on YouTube that after staining, the pipe is put under a flame (that's what I'm calling 'curing' in this post). I'm wondering if that isn't done properly could that cause what's happening to your pipe? I'm grasping at straws here. Someone will add the correct response. Ignore this post (except for my empathy). I truly believe that the dye or stain that was used in the finishing of this pipe was not made or meant to handle the heat when the briar gets hot. I’m aware of two other pipe smokers that own an Ultima Edition Aldo with the same issue. Also was curious if any other pipe makers/manufacturer had a similar issue. I know Peterson Pipes had big problems with their lacquered finished pipes. Once the briar became hot the lacquer started to bubble. I can’t tell you how many of those bowls I had to refinish for fellow pipe smokers. I’d never purchase a pipe with a lacquer finish figuring it would most likely bubble when it heats up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 9:02:59 GMT -5
I gave an artisan pipe to a friend as a birthday gift. It bled dye the first few times he smoked it apparently. He says it eventually settled down and stabilized. It is a bit lighter and less even looking now, but not in a bad way.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 15, 2018 9:18:24 GMT -5
Maybe there is a settling-in period with these types of pipes.
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Post by slowroll on Jun 15, 2018 10:17:29 GMT -5
Sounds to me like they used a varnish finish with stain in the varnish to speed up the process. A good alcohol stain with finish over top won't do that. Oil stains or varnish stains don't penetrate briar very well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 12:11:08 GMT -5
Maybe there is a settling-in period with these types of pipes. This pipe has been “ setting “ since it was made 5 years ago....it needs to be refinished.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 12:12:20 GMT -5
Sounds to me like they used a varnish finish with stain in the varnish to speed up the process. A good alcohol stain with finish over top won't do that. Oil stains or varnish stains don't penetrate briar very well. Yup, that’s what it looks like too me as well.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 15, 2018 12:16:15 GMT -5
Maybe there is a settling-in period with these types of pipes. This pipe has been “ setting “ since it was made 5 years ago....it needs to be refinished. 5 years is nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 13:43:44 GMT -5
I would NOT sand and strip the pipe. Bleeding happens when the stain hasn't been set properly, this happens a lot with factory pipes because there in a hurry. I would try and buff it down with white rouge and set it with a spit coat of shellac. What I mean by that is wipe on and wipe off the shellac before it dries, this requires a thin cut of shellac not the premixed. Then lightly buff again to a shine, that ought to do it. It'll be lighter in color but, it shouldn't bleed anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 14:35:21 GMT -5
I would NOT sand and strip the pipe. Bleeding happens when the stain hasn't been set properly, this happens a lot with factory pipes because there in a hurry. I would try and buff it down with white rouge and set it with a spit coat of shellac. What I mean by that is wipe on and wipe off the shellac before it dries, this requires a thin cut of shellac not the premixed. Then lightly buff again to a shine, that ought to do it. It'll be lighter in color but, it shouldn't bleed anymore. Appreciate your advice Ron. I tried White Diamond already and on the third smoke my fingers were still red. On Monday when I’m back home I will try your method, makes sense and should do the trick. I’d be fine if the briar gets lighter. Im really enjoying the Devil Anse Pipe you made for me! It’s been posted on here also. Hope your doing well, Ted
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 14:57:51 GMT -5
Let me know how it comes out. Glad to hear your still enjoying it sir.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 15:32:03 GMT -5
Let me know how it comes out. Glad to hear your still enjoying it sir. Will do, either Monday or Tuesday. I totally understand the shellac method you described.....a quick wipe off. That should do the trick.
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Post by driftingfate on Jun 15, 2018 22:35:13 GMT -5
Had this just happen with a Peterson Mark Twain I've owned for years. Never noticed it bleeding dye before, but hadn't smoked it for a very long time. At a recent pipe club meeting, it was turning my hand brown. I don't know, maybe I let it get to hot?
In your case, I would guess the finish hasn't cured yet. In my case, who knows?
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