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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 2, 2018 14:56:34 GMT -5
Other than the usual process of using Tripoli, White diamond, et al on a buffing wheel, are there any other polishes and/or waxes that will give a nice shine to a refinished pipe?
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 2, 2018 15:11:22 GMT -5
There are a few...I use Paragon wax when I'm too lazy to go out to my shed where I have my buffing station set up. Paragon Wax does a good job and is easy to use.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 2, 2018 15:43:49 GMT -5
Is linseed Oil any good?
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Post by AJ on Jul 2, 2018 15:53:47 GMT -5
Raw linseed oil is toxic to humans and takes a long time to dry. Boiled linseed oil is considered to be “food safe” and is often used to treat and seal wooden cutting boards. What effect it could have on the taste of your tobacco, should it penetrate your pipe, is a mystery to me. AJ
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 2, 2018 16:30:41 GMT -5
Although I wouldn't use Linseed Oil, I doubt that it would so penetrate the pipe to affect the taste of the tobacco. Based on some of the tobaccos that I've tried, the taste of the Linseed Oil might be an improvement however!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 2, 2018 16:44:40 GMT -5
Raw linseed oil is toxic to humans and takes a long time to dry. Boiled linseed oil is considered to be “food safe” and is often used to treat and seal wooden cutting boards. What effect it could have on the taste of your tobacco, should it penetrate your pipe, is a mystery to me. AJ I never knew that. Thanks for sharing. I think I rubbed a bit on one of my ebay pipes. Damned of I know which one. Lol
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 2, 2018 17:29:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 18:18:19 GMT -5
You can use Shine Juice. It is a mixture of BLO,DNA and Bees Wax. Wood turners use this on their pie as.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:21:29 GMT -5
There are a few...I use Paragon wax when I'm too lazy to go out to my shed where I have my buffing station set up. Paragon Wax does a good job and is easy to use. Paragon Wax as suggested does put on a nice shine and it’s easy too use. I also use Flitz polish/paste wax and I have achieved a shine that lasts, just a quick hand buff after each use, the shine is amazing. I purchased my last tube from Amazon at a reasonable price. Same wax I use on my knife blades.
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Post by joeman on Jul 2, 2018 21:24:22 GMT -5
Carnauba as applied very carefully via cotton wheel on a dremel or bench buffer.
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Post by monbla256 on Jul 2, 2018 21:29:51 GMT -5
Best thing I've used is nose oil. Does not penitrate to the bol and gives that lovely patina/luster to any pipe you use it on!
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Post by slowroll on Jul 2, 2018 21:39:55 GMT -5
Carnauba as applied very carefully via cotton wheel on a dremel or bench buffer. Yep. Carnauba with a wheel is the finest shine. I use it after the white diamond on all my pipes, about 3 coats the first time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 23:17:34 GMT -5
Carnauba as applied very carefully via cotton wheel on a dremel or bench buffer. After White Diamond on the buffing wheel, Carnauba will definitely not only protect the briar, it will add a brilliant luster 👌👍
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Post by trailboss on Jul 2, 2018 23:49:47 GMT -5
Since I don’t have a buffing wheel, and have heard many examples of people using one that launched their pipe into a wall, and have seen where a careless moment can buff off the stamps, I chose an unorthodox route. I have used this wax on my wood stocks on my military weapons and it has proven itself in that regard. thegunstockdoctor.com/Products.htmlI rub it on the pipe, and heat with my old Makita heatgun and polish with a soft cloth. I have had really good results... I do the same with clear beeswax on my meerschaum pipes... I melt the beeswax with the heatgun ((a step not necessary with Toms gunstock wax), apply it and heat with gun and polish.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 3, 2018 1:22:49 GMT -5
cheers!! As for nose oil... I, also, have heard it's really good.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 3, 2018 12:12:10 GMT -5
I've buffed a lot of pipes, and one would have to have one hell of a careless moment to buff off the stamps -- like about 10 minutes in one place . Unless of course one is using pumice instead of Tripoli or wax. BTW, I use a 3600 rpm buffer too. Takes about 2 minutes if that. Just hold the pipe tightly but apply it lightly to the wheel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 13:29:37 GMT -5
For a quick tune up, I use a Decatur Polishing Cloth. This was the last used component in the P&C restoration kit and while results were somewhat negligible for the entire kit, this Decatur Cloth really works and lays in a polish to both pipe and stem that doesn't disappear overnight.
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Post by joeman on Jul 3, 2018 14:19:00 GMT -5
I have heard many examples of people using one that launched their pipe into a wall, and have seen where a careless moment can buff off the stamps...... Charlie.... yes...and.... yes...you are absolutely correct. In my early days on a bench buffer, there were some known warnings...but I still wasn't quite prepared...a few bowls hit the wall...the floor...one of them was an Ardor!!! Fortunately, that was several years and a thousand pipes ago. And there are plenty of guys like yourself who do a fine job without a buffer! I'd say that one really ought to watch a very carefully demonstrated process via video (or better yet...see it in person)...and then if possible, get just a bit of mentoring on the buffer before going off on their own. And I say that even more so due to your 2nd great point...that a buffer will also take the stampings right off of a pipe, as well as buffing away the softer grain, leaving an uneven finish on the bowl. Surprisingly, many guys don't realize that a wheel with buffing compound (including tripoli, white diamond and others) is not simply "shining up" the pipe...the buffing compound is REMOVING WOOD. These compounds are not just shining up the dull, scratched-up surface...they're removing those scratches by removing the wood surface which has been scratched. Whereas...a product such as carnauba is 'filling' the scratches, and not removing material. Nope...not suggesting wax 'instead of' sanding / finishing / buffing. It's a careful and mixed process. An old timer once told me...when buffing..." keep your finger in the bowl"!!!!
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Post by trailboss on Jul 3, 2018 18:56:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I have too many “Bubba” moments, and I have a fair amount of estate pipes where the stampings are already not a crisp as they should be, a few take a magnifying glass, with a side of squint!
What can really be challenging is trying to keep the stampings on ebonite while cleaning a stem that looks like someone had caustic spit! It is really easy to lose the Savinelli stamp/ paint on ebonite.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 3, 2018 20:36:39 GMT -5
I don't know what in hell people might be buffing with to "take fhe stampings right off a pipe". Sand paper? It takes years of aggressive buffing in my experience to do that. No, you don't try to buff out deep scratches. That won't work. Buffing is to polish already smooth wood. Waxing shines buffed wood. Neither require much pressure. I touch up all my pipes frequently on the buffer without dsmagecto stamps, and I buff the hell out of the pipes I make. Deep Scratches are either lived with, sanded out, it filled with carnauba or colored lacquer sticks. Now, the stem stamping on Savinellis is an issue into itself. They are very shallow, so a light touch is required. Post sanding and buffing, one can put white lacquer (whiteout) in the stem stamping, let it dry a day, and sand over it to bring out the edges full of paint, then buff very lightly.
Bear in mind, if buffing was so dangerous, pipe makers would have to charge a hell of lot more, and production pipe makers wouldn't put apprentices on the buffer.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 3, 2018 23:05:52 GMT -5
I am not saying that there is no value in buffing, obviously it is the standard in production, maintenance, and restoration.
I just shared a process I use, that works for me. filters, no filters...rubbing out, fold and stuff, cube cut....stems up on the rack, stems down....Everclear, Rum...
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Post by joeman on Jul 3, 2018 23:06:11 GMT -5
I don't know what in hell people might be buffing with to "take fhe stampings right off a pipe". Sand paper? It takes years of aggressive buffing in my experience to do that. Tripoli is offered in multiple grits, as you may know. Heavier grit tripoli, for example, will quickly buff away a shallow stamping in a single application...if done too aggressively.
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Post by joeman on Jul 3, 2018 23:11:15 GMT -5
I am not saying that there is no value in buffing, obviously it is the standard in production, maintenance, and restoration. I just shared a process I use, that works for me. filters, no filters...rubbing out, fold and stuff, cube cut....stems up on the rack, stems down....Everclear, Rum... Your process is fine. There are many approaches to pipe maintenance and restoration. I've done, and still do plenty of work without the buffer. I absolutely use it for certain steps. Buffers are the preferred method for many, but not 'necessary' in order to do good restoration work.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 4, 2018 7:20:08 GMT -5
I don't know what in hell people might be buffing with to "take fhe stampings right off a pipe". Sand paper? It takes years of aggressive buffing in my experience to do that. Tripoli is offered in multiple grits, as you may know. Heavier grit tripoli, for example, will quickly buff away a shallow stamping in a single application...if done too aggressively. Hence my admonition above to buff lightly, not aggressively. The point I'm merely trying to make is that folks shouldn't be nervous about using time saving tools.
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Post by joeman on Jul 4, 2018 13:47:16 GMT -5
Thanks Steve, I agree. I don't see buffers as dangerous, and no one should be nervous about trying one. With the amount of daily pipe restoring I do (as well as for the pipes I've made), I use mine extensively, and recommend it as a time saving tool, especially for those who work on estates, and make pipes. My suggestion that one gets a bit of tutoring on the process was meant more as an encouragement for those thinking about a buffer...to get started on the right foot.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 4, 2018 15:13:19 GMT -5
Right. Of course another option is to practise on a crap pipe and/or any scrap wood, since tutoring is probably hard to find. That will teach one to avoid turning an edge toward the wheel opposite the direction of rotation. Good practise would be to try to polish a paint stirring stick or a wooden spoon. Not metal, guys, because that will discolor the buff wheel so badly it's useless for briar.
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