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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 17, 2018 8:23:38 GMT -5
Today at 9 my fifteen-year-old daughter stinky AKA Kathryn has to report to McDonald's in Bella Vista Arkansas to fill out paperwork so she can start her new job. Kate is 15 so she can only work certain hours until October when she turns 16. I had hired her to work for me being this was the last summer of adolescence and she never figured it out, her only job was to keep dad entertained. She got bored and quit, I'm curious to see how she will perform at a job where she's expected to do something?
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jul 17, 2018 8:34:13 GMT -5
...just went through this with my youngest who's 16...he lasted 1 month at Sonic...the search is on again...hope your daughter does better!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 17, 2018 8:43:17 GMT -5
I wish her every success. It's jobs like this year help form a good work ethic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:04:12 GMT -5
Jack and Peter, both your children are young and will find a job they enjoy, plus make a few bucks. Takes time too also fit in with new peers, I wish them both well.
When I was 13, I had no choice but to deliver news papers back on Long Island daily. Then once a month take the extra time to knock on doors to collect the fee, hopefully also get a tip. I delivered the Suffolk Sun and Long Island Press, rain, sleet and snow. Every Friday I had to give my Dad $5.00 to help pay household expenses. That’s how he was brought up to teach him responsibility, that’s how his children were taught. By the age of 16 ( my rent ) I called it, every Friday I had to pay my Dad $15.00. I worked at Model’s after school every day, full day on Saturday plus every other Sunday. In 1967 the “ BLUE LAW “ was still in effect, stores were suppose to be closed on Sunday’s. I remember one Sunday I was handed a summons to appear in court for working on Sunday’s, which was dropped once I appeared, the Judge ruled “ only the owner of the store can receive a fine for opening on a Sunday “. Soon thereafter the law was not enforced and was eventually dropped from being a law.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 17, 2018 12:19:11 GMT -5
Thank you all for your wishes of luck it is much appreciated. At this point we have been at McDonalds at 9 in the morning. Katie's identification had expired so we had to go to the Department of Revenue and get a new identification card then back to McDonalds to fill out more paperwork then home to grab the work van and then back to McDonalds because they forgot to have her sign something I'm finally getting to start my work day at 12:18 p.m. but hey she's my daughter and I do it all over again
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Post by Florida on Jul 17, 2018 12:42:53 GMT -5
Jack and Peter, both your children are young and will find a job they enjoy, plus make a few bucks. Takes time too also fit in with new peers, I wish them both well. When I was 13, I had no choice but to deliver news papers back on Long Island daily. Then once a month take the extra time to knock on doors to collect the fee, hopefully also get a tip. I delivered the Suffolk Sun and Long Island Press, rain, sleet and snow. Every Friday I had to give my Dad $5.00 to help pay household expenses. That’s how he was brought up to teach him responsibility, that’s how his children were taught. By the age of 16 ( my rent ) I called it, every Friday I had to pay my Dad $15.00. I worked at Model’s after school every day, full day on Saturday plus every other Sunday. In 1967 the “ BLUE LAW “ was still in effect, stores were suppose to be closed on Sunday’s. I remember one Sunday I was handed a summons to appear in court for working on Sunday’s, which was dropped once I appeared, the Judge ruled “ only the owner of the store can receive a fine for opening on a Sunday “. Soon thereafter the law was not enforced and was eventually dropped from being a law. That was 100 hears ago, a different time, a different mentality, a different world. I enjoyed that world and did pretty much the same. Today however, these kids have a sense of entitlement. And heaven forbid you tell them they can't use their cell phones while working.
In one of my businesses we have cameras and I would sometimes monitor things. Saw my manager texting like it was going out-of-style. I waited, watched, waited watched. I called her and I was the bad guy. Her salary was $52k and 29 years old. I was the bad guy! Can't handle this new world order. Thankfully I sold that business.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 17, 2018 13:06:48 GMT -5
The world is passing everyone by because of cell phones. I've been guilty of it, but not anymore. 90% of the time when I'm at work I leave my phone in the truck. (I do remodeling and new construction)
I wish your daughter well and good luck. My 15 year old son has been job hunting all summer and has had no luck.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 17, 2018 13:37:32 GMT -5
Finally at home but only long enough to get more paperwork for McDonalds. This makes 4 trips to McDonalds in 4.5 hours. Crap, it was easier to enlist .
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jul 17, 2018 13:38:47 GMT -5
Jack and Peter, both your children are young and will find a job they enjoy, plus make a few bucks. Takes time too also fit in with new peers, I wish them both well. When I was 13, I had no choice but to deliver news papers back on Long Island daily. Then once a month take the extra time to knock on doors to collect the fee, hopefully also get a tip. I delivered the Suffolk Sun and Long Island Press, rain, sleet and snow. Every Friday I had to give my Dad $5.00 to help pay household expenses. That’s how he was brought up to teach him responsibility, that’s how his children were taught. By the age of 16 ( my rent ) I called it, every Friday I had to pay my Dad $15.00. I worked at Model’s after school every day, full day on Saturday plus every other Sunday. In 1967 the “ BLUE LAW “ was still in effect, stores were suppose to be closed on Sunday’s. I remember one Sunday I was handed a summons to appear in court for working on Sunday’s, which was dropped once I appeared, the Judge ruled “ only the owner of the store can receive a fine for opening on a Sunday “. Soon thereafter the law was not enforced and was eventually dropped from being a law. That was 100 hears ago, a different time, a different mentality, a different world. I enjoyed that world and did pretty much the same. Today however, these kids have a sense of entitlement. And heaven forbid you tell them they can't use their cell phones while working.
In one of my businesses we have cameras and I would sometimes monitor things. Saw my manager texting like it was going out-of-style. I waited, watched, waited watched. I called her and I was the bad guy. Her salary was $52k and 29 years old. I was the bad guy! Can't handle this new world order. Thankfully I sold that business.
… Joe & Ted you make some very good points and comments...I worked from the time I was 8-9 until 62...even at that young age I was expected to follow through...cutting grass in the summer, raking leaves in the fall, shoveling snow in the winter...it is a different world today...no doubt...however, when it comes to developing a "work ethic" you either do or don't...
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Post by AJ on Jul 17, 2018 13:48:15 GMT -5
Jack I'm sure your daughter will do just fine. McDonald's has a good training program and most of their managers are very patient with those working their first job. I've been having the same concerns as my youngest grand daughter just recently started her first job that allows her to use her organizational and decorating talent. Being just fifteen she has already impressed her employer and been rewarded with more hours of work. I'm so proud I can hardly get my head through the door. She had the wisdom to listen to her old granddad. I told her to always be at least 10 minutes early ready for work and never use her phone on the job except in extreme emergency. There are other things she heen taught and it's paying off.
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Post by Florida on Jul 17, 2018 14:06:39 GMT -5
That was 100 hears ago, a different time, a different mentality, a different world. I enjoyed that world and did pretty much the same. Today however, these kids have a sense of entitlement. And heaven forbid you tell them they can't use their cell phones while working.
In one of my businesses we have cameras and I would sometimes monitor things. Saw my manager texting like it was going out-of-style. I waited, watched, waited watched. I called her and I was the bad guy. Her salary was $52k and 29 years old. I was the bad guy! Can't handle this new world order. Thankfully I sold that business.
… Joe & Ted you make some very good points and comments...I worked from the time I was 8-9 until 62...even at that young age I was expected to follow through...cutting grass in the summer, raking leaves in the fall, shoveling snow in the winter...it is a different world today...no doubt...however, when it comes to developing a "work ethic" you either do or don't... Very true but upbringing has a lot to do with it. Unfortunately, our generation wants to give our children what we didn't have and in doing so, some have created the entitled and spoiled generation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 14:16:44 GMT -5
The world is passing everyone by because of cell phones. I've been guilty of it, but not anymore. 90% of the time when I'm at work I leave my phone in the truck. (I do remodeling and new construction) I wish your daughter well and good luck. My 15 year old son has been job hunting all summer and has had no luck. Take your son to work with you for a week, have him lift and carry, swing a hammer for a while ( NO power nail guns permitted ) I bet after that he finds a job faster👍👍👍 Why do young teens have sleep overs and instead of open communication in the room, they’re texting each other??? Must be me, makes absolutely no sense!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 14:18:41 GMT -5
Finally at home but only long enough to get more paperwork for McDonalds. This makes 4 trips to McDonalds in 4.5 hours. Crap, it was easier to enlist . Your better off paying your daughter $5.00 an hour, off the books to stay home and work with you👍
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Post by joeman on Jul 17, 2018 14:31:20 GMT -5
If McD works out, it'll be a great first job...so long as it's managed well. McD are hit and miss. Doesn't take long to figure out if it's a good one or not...based on cleanliness and customer service you experience. My first real job at 16 was McD...and it was a good one. Managed well, which is most of the battle. We had expectations to meet, and the managers jumped in and modeled it well. I hope your kid has a similar experience...a good work ethic can start at McD. Now...go listen to Jim Gaffigan's 9 minute bit on McDonalds on Youtube.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 17, 2018 17:52:39 GMT -5
The world is passing everyone by because of cell phones. I've been guilty of it, but not anymore. 90% of the time when I'm at work I leave my phone in the truck. (I do remodeling and new construction) I wish your daughter well and good luck. My 15 year old son has been job hunting all summer and has had no luck. Take your son to work with you for a week, have him lift and carry, swing a hammer for a while ( NO power nail guns permitted ) I bet after that he finds a job faster👍👍👍 Why do young teens have sleep overs and instead of open communication in the room, they’re texting each other??? Must be me, makes absolutely no sense! I take both of my boys to work with me depending on what we're doing. Thing is, I dont want them in this line of work what so ever. My oldest has helped me at work and around the house since he was 6, my 8 year old started at about the same age. Lesson 1: learn to read a tape measure.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jul 17, 2018 18:05:34 GMT -5
We lived in a rural area, found out Thorobred farm needed a mucker for the stalls. Son was 13 got him a learners permit, could only go to the job, worked after school, his younger brother 11 would go with him. He learned to drive a Bobcat, younger brother helped him out. Daughter got a job in a skating rink, I reconigze things are very different, this was in the Sixties. They worked around the house, never any crap about giving them money for chores, room and board and clothes were payment. I was never cinchy, bought them cars, gave them money when they were short. They are now hard working Adults, we coddle our children too much.
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Post by Matthew on Jul 17, 2018 18:17:02 GMT -5
Take your son to work with you for a week, have him lift and carry, swing a hammer for a while ( NO power nail guns permitted ) I bet after that he finds a job faster👍👍👍 Why do young teens have sleep overs and instead of open communication in the room, they’re texting each other??? Must be me, makes absolutely no sense! I take both of my boys to work with me depending on what we're doing. Thing is, I dont want them in this line of work what so ever. My oldest has helped me at work and around the house since he was 6, my 8 year old started at about the same age. Lesson 1: learn to read a tape measure. I was helping my nephew last summer,it was around 95 fahrenheit in the shade and we were digging the footing for a 3500sq/ft house.He wanted it 24"x24" and we were digging by hand.While he,as strapping youngen of 35 or 40,would stop to breath and get a drink,I kept going until I met myself.Several times he called me names,all be it he did intend them complimentary.My son has many time been unfortunate enough to have worked along side of me,and is determined to get a more "mental" occupation.I find a "Zen" mode behind a shovel,and can enjoy just moving dirt.But stomping snakes is refreshing too !
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