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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 15:31:00 GMT -5
I've found that when I pack my pipe and go to put the flame to the tobacco - that first touch of flame to tobacco produces a smoke that is amazing. Half a second later it's not the same and continues that way throughout the bowl.
For those couple of cigarettes that I had in my life it was exactly the same. As I was lighting the cigarette, when flame touched tobacco, it was awesome. After that it wasn't the same.
Does anyone have any idea what I'm on about?
It's not during the whole charring light process that this happens, just the very very first touch of flame. It's like a milder smoke that I find amazing, but, like I've said, after that it's denser or something and doesn't taste as good. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm on about and if they experience it too...
anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 15:34:11 GMT -5
For me, the top of the bowl is the least enjoyable and I never judge a smoke at that point. The real impression comes at mid bowl and finish for me.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 30, 2018 15:34:19 GMT -5
Ah...no, never had that experience.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 15:36:27 GMT -5
Ah...no, never had that experience. LOL. Just me then? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 16:07:50 GMT -5
I have not had that experience. It does taste different with the heat of the flame being applied, but I have never thought it tasted better at that point. Maybe you are a "super taster". I guess it could depend on the tobacco as well. Are you smoking Captain Black Grape again?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 16:14:05 GMT -5
Ah...no, never had that experience. LOL. Just me then? Not just you. Often the immediate thumb pack and relight causes flavor loss in aros |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 16:45:18 GMT -5
I'm not even sure it's a flavour loss thing. It's just a nice experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 16:46:36 GMT -5
I've found that when I pack my pipe and go to put the flame to the tobacco - that first touch of flame to tobacco produces a smoke that is amazing. Half a second later it's not the same and continues that way throughout the bowl. For those couple of cigarettes that I had in my life it was exactly the same. As I was lighting the cigarette, when flame touched tobacco, it was awesome. After that it wasn't the same. Does anyone have any idea what I'm on about? It's not during the whole charring light process that this happens, just the very very first touch of flame. It's like a milder smoke that I find amazing, but, like I've said, after that it's denser or something and doesn't taste as good. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm on about and if they experience it too... anyone? Seriously LL, if that happens to you all the time just keep the flame over the tobacco until your done smoking your tobacco 😜😝😂😜😝😂. Different strokes for different folks!! Some say the first light can be the hottest and harshest point of smoking a pipe, or constant re-lighting. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 16:53:58 GMT -5
Lol. Actually, I think it's when the tobacco hasn't fully heated up that I get this experience. So with as the flame stays on the tobacco the experience is lost.
It literally happens for the very first puff.
OK. I'm weird.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 16:57:17 GMT -5
You've commented before that you only taste smoke, maybe in this occurrence you are actually experiencing flavor. Soldier on!  |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 30, 2018 17:01:37 GMT -5
Ah...no, never had that experience. LOL. Just me then? No not just you, I have had it also for me I think it might me a mental thing Like oh boy here we go! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 17:09:40 GMT -5
You've commented before that you only taste smoke, maybe in this occurrence you are actually experiencing flavor. Soldier on! maybe that's what everyone else tastes. If so it's great... But then if that is the case, I wonder what I'm doing wrong the rest of the time. I'd never be able to continue the pipe if I take the flame away at that point. It's not even lit. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 17:10:03 GMT -5
No not just you, I have had it also for me I think it might me a mental thing Like oh boy here we go! good to know, Pistol Pete 1911. |
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Post by Matthew on Jul 30, 2018 17:26:51 GMT -5
No not just you, I have had it also for me I think it might me a mental thing Like oh boy here we go! good to know, Pistol Pete 1911 . No LL it's not just you,but I think Pistol Pete 1911 may be on the right track. That first touch of flame shoots a load of endorphins and dopamine that enhance the flavors.After that moment in time,you just relax into the experience. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 30, 2018 17:48:48 GMT -5
Wow. Maybe you're on to something.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 30, 2018 18:11:20 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from on that. To me there is a difference in taste on the first draw. BUT I dont judge my tobacco by that. Also, my favorite part of a pipe is from just above a half to almost the end. To me it seems to be when everything is going good and meshes together just right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 18:40:14 GMT -5
I try and smoke a blend that’s consistent for me, from after it’s first light and tamp and possible re-light that smokes well from start to finish, with little change in taste and complexity. Takes time too also find the “ right “ pipe that makes a blend “ sing “ from start to the bottom of the bowl. Those are the blends I have plenty of in my cellar👍👍
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Post by peteguy on Jul 30, 2018 20:20:08 GMT -5
I thought the first cut was the deepest. |
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Post by Baboo on Jul 30, 2018 20:28:05 GMT -5
Managing the flame correctly and at the right distance/height above the load is extremely important... too low and the flame will char near the center of the load, and lower (you've missed the top and ruined the rest); end result will be a sub-par often putrid smoke. Let the flame dance high above the top and let your draw pull the flame into the top hairs and scalp. Cool sweet smoke thereafter... That is all...
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Post by Matthew on Jul 30, 2018 20:50:21 GMT -5
Managing the flame correctly and at the right distance/height above the load is extremely important... too low and the flame will char near the center of the load, and lower (you've missed the top and ruined the rest); end result will be a sub-par often putrid smoke. Let the flame dance high above the top and let your draw pull the flame into the top hairs and scalp. Cool sweet smoke thereafter... That is all... Uh,,,Are you lighting a pipe or the neighbor's kid? |
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Post by Baboo on Jul 30, 2018 21:17:38 GMT -5
Managing the flame correctly and at the right distance/height above the load is extremely important... too low and the flame will char near the center of the load, and lower (you've missed the top and ruined the rest); end result will be a sub-par often putrid smoke. Let the flame dance high above the top and let your draw pull the flame into the top hairs and scalp. Cool sweet smoke thereafter... That is all... Uh,,,Are you lighting a pipe or the neighbor's kid? Lighting a pipe, metaphorically. |
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Post by Wolfman on Jul 30, 2018 21:40:58 GMT -5
You guys are cracking me up tonight! Legend LoverYou’re not odd. Everytime we fire up, is a unique experience. As the others have noted, there are numerous factors... You may be holding the flame to high, to center, to long, to short, etc. The psychological anticipation pushes out those endorphins and then they subside. Or, sometimes the opposite happens. Sometimes l will fire up a blend in one pipe and it will be a nirvana like experience. Then when I smoke the same amazing blend in another pipe the magic is gone. What gives? I don’t know, but I have that I initial light awesomeness frequently. I’ve concluded there’s no wrong or right, it just is and I love it. |
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Post by AJ on Jul 30, 2018 22:07:47 GMT -5
Managing the flame correctly and at the right distance/height above the load is extremely important... too low and the flame will char near the center of the load, and lower (you've missed the top and ruined the rest); end result will be a sub-par often putrid smoke. Let the flame dance high above the top and let your draw pull the flame into the top hairs and scalp. Cool sweet smoke thereafter... That is all... ^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^ I don’t know the reason why but getting a proper light as described above does make a big difference, at least for me. YVMV! AJ |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 30, 2018 22:52:17 GMT -5
I wonder if it could also be due to the state of your taste buds and olfactory senses. Before you light, they're probably in a relaxed state, and haven't been exposed to the smoke. Once lit, and puffing away, they may react more to the smoke flavor, thus losing unburnt flavors of the tobacco. Maybe a bit psychosomatic as well, expecting the unburnt flavors to hit your tongue first. Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 22:52:21 GMT -5
If you light the tobacco dead center of the chamber of your pipe that’s one way of creating a harsh foul taste. I keep the flame high away from the tobacco/rim of the pipe and start puffing, moving the flame in a counter clockwise motion to get the entire top of the tobacco lit before I do my first light tamp. It’s worked well for me almost 50 years👌👍
I must suffer from POCD...pipe obsessive compulsive disorder or just anal retentive - ness!!!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 31, 2018 2:44:23 GMT -5
Baboo, Maybe I Am lighting it too high. I put the match a couple of mm away from the tobacco. I must try keeping it higher next time. Cramptholomew, that's an interesting take. Maybe the smoke overwhelms my olfactory senses and dampens them somewhat. Matthew... Brilliant!
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