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Post by Matthew on Aug 1, 2018 22:48:24 GMT -5
Just how subjective pipe smoking is?
From the make and style of pipe,the type blend and cut,The method of packing and lighting. Heck,even how or if/when we dump the ash. Seems the only aspect we all totally agree onis "smoke what you enjoy and enjoy what you smoke".
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Post by driftingfate on Aug 1, 2018 23:10:06 GMT -5
All different souls with a common bond - it makes for a healthy society. Sometimes I think only pipe smokers know the secret to world peace, but who is going to listen?
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Post by blackmouth210 on Aug 1, 2018 23:36:32 GMT -5
This is something I did notice very early on in my pipe-smoking development. That was when I was hardly active on the internet (late 90's). It was mostly through conversations at local b&m's that I discovered this.
Now, having become more active online, I see and appreciate the idea so much more. Never have I been a part of something that is both individualistic AND fraternal simultaneously.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 23:40:54 GMT -5
It’s an extremely subjective hobby, everyone has their favorite blends, how to pack a pipe and even how to properly light the tobacco. We can all learn different techniques from each other, try new blends, but it will most likely turn back around 360 degrees for those that have enjoyed smoking a pipe for many years. No matter if your a new pipe smoker or have over 60 years of experience, we can all learn something new from members of this forum on any given day👍👍
It’s the camaraderie amongst pipe smokers
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 2, 2018 3:33:02 GMT -5
I have slowly, gradually noticed this. Your post has brought it to a head for me, Matthew. When I first arrived here I had a lot of questions and most of them were subjective. I came out with a lot of different answers, many of them along the lines of, 'do what works for you.' Once I accepted that there's no real right or wrong, I stopped asking questions and settled into what I do and what works for me.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 2, 2018 7:02:09 GMT -5
All different souls with a common bond - it makes for a healthy society. Sometimes I think only pipe smokers know the secret to world peace, but who is going to listen? Do you think it's leaf or the pipe that is the bond?
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 2, 2018 7:30:26 GMT -5
The whole ritual.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 2, 2018 7:35:23 GMT -5
makes perfect sense to me
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Post by Matthew on Aug 2, 2018 7:36:55 GMT -5
All different souls with a common bond - it makes for a healthy society. Sometimes I think only pipe smokers know the secret to world peace, but who is going to listen? Do you think it's leaf or the pipe that is the bond? I believe it's the desire to stop and enjoy the moment.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 2, 2018 7:42:40 GMT -5
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Reply #1 posted Feb 14, 2018 at 5:35am Don, ronv69, and 4 more like this likePost Options Post by haebar on Feb 14, 2018 at 5:35am Yes, I smoke a pipe. I do it for many reasons:
The Smoking Experience - the whole of many aspects associated with smoking a pipe - choosing the tobacco, packing the bowl, lighting it, puffing on it, handling the pipe, etc.
The Taste Sensations - The taste and smell of each tobacco as it is being smoked.
Fascination with Variety - There is a great diversity of pipes and tobaccos to be enjoyed.
The Beauty of Pipe Materials - the grain of briars, the milky softness of meerschaum, the utility of the cob, etc.
The Excitement of the Hunt - the fun of looking for estate pipes, rare tobaccos, great deals on retail pipes and tobaccos, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 10:27:15 GMT -5
All different souls with a common bond - it makes for a healthy society. Sometimes I think only pipe smokers know the secret to world peace, but who is going to listen? Do you think it's leaf or the pipe that is the bond? A combination of both, plus the aroma of the blend your smoking 👍
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Post by AJ on Aug 2, 2018 11:38:12 GMT -5
haebar Senior Member **** haebar Avatar Posts: 1,031Male First Name: John (Tab) Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee Send PM Reply #1 posted Feb 14, 2018 at 5:35am Don, ronv69, and 4 more like this likePost Options Post by haebar on Feb 14, 2018 at 5:35am Yes, I smoke a pipe. I do it for many reasons: The Smoking Experience - the whole of many aspects associated with smoking a pipe - choosing the tobacco, packing the bowl, lighting it, puffing on it, handling the pipe, etc. The Taste Sensations - The taste and smell of each tobacco as it is being smoked. Fascination with Variety - There is a great diversity of pipes and tobaccos to be enjoyed. The Beauty of Pipe Materials - the grain of briars, the milky softness of meerschaum, the utility of the cob, etc. The Excitement of the Hunt - the fun of looking for estate pipes, rare tobaccos, great deals on retail pipes and tobaccos, etc. I believe this sums it up. To some degree we all share these characteristics and it makes us brothers and sisters that love to share the moment. AJ
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 4, 2018 0:24:27 GMT -5
Subjectivity is the easy thing to spot... Proper ideas, habits, awareness,care etc., concerning smoking related items,lifestyle activities (pipe,tobacco,food/beverage,oral hygiene etc ) ,make for an objective starting point for other's subjective opinions. Objectivity is far less obvious.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 4, 2018 1:08:28 GMT -5
It really isn’t subjective.
I do everything right, and any of you all do anything different than my preferred methods.... well, you are wrong.
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 4, 2018 3:37:48 GMT -5
It really isn’t subjective. I do everything right, and any of you all do anything different than my preferred methods.... well, you are wrong. lol
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Post by trailboss on Aug 4, 2018 15:38:49 GMT -5
Seriously, that is the great ting about this hobby...to the casual observer that has never smoked a pipe there is nothing to it, once you dip your toes into the water, you quickly realize that there are a myriad numbers of ways and methods to prepare and smoke to your fullest enjoyment, and that matter of pipes opens up quite a few different views on that aspect.
It is always good to hear of different techniques.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 4, 2018 17:25:03 GMT -5
Seriously, that is the great ting about this hobby...to the casual observer that has never smoked a pipe there is nothing to it, once you dip your toes into the water, you quickly realize that there are a myriad numbers of ways and methods to prepare and smoke to your fullest enjoyment, and that matter of pipes opens up quite a few different views on that aspect. It is always good to hear of different techniques. absolutely... I had no idea that there were so many techniques and opinions, and I think that's what makes it such an interesting pastime.
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Post by Matthew on Aug 4, 2018 18:58:16 GMT -5
Seriously, that is the great ting about this hobby...to the casual observer that has never smoked a pipe there is nothing to it, once you dip your toes into the water, you quickly realize that there are a myriad numbers of ways and methods to prepare and smoke to your fullest enjoyment, and that matter of pipes opens up quite a few different views on that aspect. It is always good to hear of different techniques. absolutely... I had no idea that there were so many techniques and opinions, and I think that's what makes it such an interesting pastime. And with all our differences,there isn't really a wrong way (as long as your way works).We can argue about fold and stuff vs rubbing out, or ribbon cut vs shag.We can complain about one blend or another and still admit we kinda like that orphan blend no one else does.It comes back to different strokes for different folks,but we all enjoy the "whole" of our hobby.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 5, 2018 0:02:51 GMT -5
Certified pipe geekery!
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 5, 2018 1:32:09 GMT -5
I was just thinking about how about 5 or so years ago I was sitting in a National Park here in the States when an old codger approached me. "A little young for the briar, arent you?" "Been at it for years, actually" I told him.
I watched him as he produced an ancient looking Kaywoodie and began packing it with Sir Walter Raleigh. "An English blend in there, huh? I smell the latakia. Fancy fancy." I smiled and told him his pipe looked really cool. "When did you buy that?" The answer didnt surprise me, it was sometime in the mid-60s, if I remember right.
He watched me relight my pipe for about the third time since he sat down. "After all those years, you still don't know how to keep that thing lit, do you?" "Here, watch me." He showed me his packing method. I think other people would have been off-put by this, like having someone show you how to ride a bicycle, when you're feeling very confident, and been riding for awhile. You know the feeling I am talking about. Like being patronised.
But I watched. Intently. For years I had been doing the 1-2-3 packing method. This was a little different. A little pinch at the bottom of the bowl, then a drizzle on top of that, with a light tap of the pinkie each time it looks like it needs a haircut. Finally, a pipe tool is used to tamper it down, but not too much. I never have to light most blends more than once since that day. I'd been relighting 4-5 times on average before that. It was a pretty cool day.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 5, 2018 2:49:19 GMT -5
I was just thinking about how about 5 or so years ago I was sitting in a National Park here in the States when an old codger approached me. "A little young for the briar, arent you?" "Been at it for years, actually" I told him. I watched him as he produced an ancient looking Kaywoodie and began packing it with Sir Walter Raleigh. "An English blend in there, huh? I smell the latakia. Fancy fancy." I smiled and told him his pipe looked really cool. "When did you buy that?" The answer didnt surprise me, it was sometime in the mid-60s, if I remember right. He watched me relight my pipe for about the third time since he sat down. "After all those years, you still don't know how to keep that thing lit, do you?" "Here, watch me." He showed me his packing method. I think other people would have been off-put by this, like having someone show you how to ride a bicycle, when you're feeling very confident, and been riding for awhile. You know the feeling I am talking about. Like being patronised. But I watched. Intently. For years I had been doing the 1-2-3 packing method. This was a little different. A little pinch at the bottom of the bowl, then a drizzle on top of that, with a light tap of the pinkie each time it looks like it needs a haircut. Finally, a pipe tool is used to tamper it down, but not too much. I never have to light most blends more than once since that day. I'd been relighting 4-5 times on average before that. It was a pretty cool day. that's a great story.
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Post by jeffd on Aug 5, 2018 20:04:11 GMT -5
The beauty of this forum is that with all our differences, some of them fundamental differences, we are patient with other's preferences and tastes, and cheer anyone on who manages the transcendence and bliss available to pipe smokers, however they get there. Nobody is wrong.
I learned from my Dad, and got a lot of things "sub-optimal" and have figured out a few ways I like better. The one huge difference is my Dad rarely rarely ever talked about smoking. It was not even a topic. It was like breathing. Just something he did, as background music to life. Whereas I have kind of taking to talking about pipe smoking. Lots of embarrassment to overcome, believe me.
I remember my dad teaching me how to sharpen a pocket knife. He was smoking a pipe at the time, as usual, but I was learning about knives.
I think part of the bond between us all is a common "enemy" in government over regulation of our pleasure for no informed reason. IMO. Nothing like a common enemy to bring us all together.
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Post by Matthew on Aug 5, 2018 20:53:25 GMT -5
The beauty of this forum is that with all our differences, some of them fundamental differences, we are patient with other's preferences and tastes, and cheer anyone on who manages the transcendence and bliss available to pipe smokers, however they get there. Nobody is wrong. I learned from my Dad, and got a lot of things "sub-optimal" and have figured out a few ways I like better. The one huge difference is my Dad rarely rarely ever talked about smoking. It was not even a topic. It was like breathing. Just something he did, as background music to life. Whereas I have kind of taking to talking about pipe smoking. Lots of embarrassment to overcome, believe me. I remember my dad teaching me how to sharpen a pocket knife. He was smoking a pipe at the time, as usual, but I was learning about knives. I think part of the bond between us all is a common "enemy" in government over regulation of our pleasure for no informed reason. IMO. Nothing like a common enemy to bring us all together. I have to admit,it is kind of strange to discuss pipe smoking as a hobby.But in truth,that is exactly what it has become. I don't choose pipes or tobaccos by any fashion sense,I choose them by how they make me feel.If I light up and lose about an hour in enjoyable contemplation,that's a good smoke or two. On the other hand I have to disagree in part,I think the Bond is formed due to a mutual enjoyment and a desire to share that enjoyment with others.A mutual enemy might help us to over look our differences but it is the Love of the Leaf that binds us.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 6, 2018 1:55:35 GMT -5
The beauty of this forum is that with all our differences, some of them fundamental differences, we are patient with other's preferences and tastes, and cheer anyone on who manages the transcendence and bliss available to pipe smokers, however they get there. Nobody is wrong. I learned from my Dad, and got a lot of things "sub-optimal" and have figured out a few ways I like better. The one huge difference is my Dad rarely rarely ever talked about smoking. It was not even a topic. It was like breathing. Just something he did, as background music to life. Whereas I have kind of taking to talking about pipe smoking. Lots of embarrassment to overcome, believe me. I remember my dad teaching me how to sharpen a pocket knife. He was smoking a pipe at the time, as usual, but I was learning about knives. I think part of the bond between us all is a common "enemy" in government over regulation of our pleasure for no informed reason. IMO. Nothing like a common enemy to bring us all together. I have to admit,it is kind of strange to discuss pipe smoking as a hobby.But in truth,that is exactly what it has become. I don't choose pipes or tobaccos by any fashion sense,I choose them by how they make me feel.If I light up and lose about an hour in enjoyable contemplation,that's a good smoke or two. On the other hand I have to disagree in part,I think the Bond is formed due to a mutual enjoyment and a desire to share that enjoyment with others.A mutual enemy might help us to over look our differences but it is the Love of the Leaf that binds us. I agree.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 6, 2018 7:25:26 GMT -5
It really isn’t subjective. I do everything right, and any of you all do anything different than my preferred methods.... well, you are wrong. lol OKAY! this is funny
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 21:02:46 GMT -5
There is only one right way and as trailboss somewhat myopically notes, you define it for yourself.
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 6, 2018 21:15:12 GMT -5
It really isn’t subjective. I do everything right, and any of you all do anything different than my preferred methods.... well, you are wrong. THIS for sure !
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