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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 7, 2018 17:56:59 GMT -5
I never knew this has happened before. That changes everything. I reckon it'll be a while after dunhill is sold out in USA that stock starts to deplete in the UK. From my vague understanding based on half-forgotten forum posts, Dunhill stopped making Dunhill in the early 80s. They were then made by Murray in Belfast, and supposedly went downhill. Then I guess the brand had a hiatus and came back in the 90s, made by Orlik. Some say an improvement over Murrays, some say not. I'm sure there's a lot more to the story than that.... One criticism I read about the Orlik era was that while the original Dunhill Latakia recipes specified Dubec, Samsun, Smyrna or whatever, Orlik just used some generic "Oriental" leaf for everything. I never knew that dunhill went downhill. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 1:48:11 GMT -5
You may fish...but I won't bite.  Good man! I love McClelland (Virginias and Grand Orientals) and Dunhill (everything I've tried), but in the long run I've smoked more Dunhill. I hate to see them go and hope that they'll be back ... again. The Orlik versions are the only ones I've smoked ... and they're wonderful! Hopefully, they'll continue to make them in the future. In the meantime, I'm stocking up for the tobaccogedon.  |
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Post by Stanhill on Aug 9, 2018 3:31:38 GMT -5
How many times has Dunhill Tobacco ceased production? How many times has Dunhill Tobacco come back into production? Something to Ponder! Dunhill Tobacco has never ceased production until now. The tobaccos have been blended by various houses through the years, but in Europe, they've always been available. Maybe they've been taken off the US market and then re-introduced. |
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Post by dave g on Aug 9, 2018 4:28:52 GMT -5
Yes this sucks. Dunhill had quite a few nice blends. I went full hoard mode as soon as I heard. I’m stockpiled with a lifetime of B.B. 1938.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 9, 2018 4:47:37 GMT -5
These are my replacements for the big three:
EMP: Cornell & Diehl Good Morning
MM965: Peterson Old Dublin (where can you still find this stuff bulk?)
Nightcap: GL Pease Quiet Nights
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Post by slowroll on Aug 9, 2018 5:07:04 GMT -5
These are my replacements for the big three: EMP: Cornell & Diehl Good Morning MM965: Peterson Old Dublin (where can you still find this stuff bulk?) Nightcap: GL Pease Quiet Nights I'm surprised at Quiet Nights as a Nightcap replacement. I would have thought either Westminster or Odyssey in the GLP line? |
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 9, 2018 6:13:20 GMT -5
From what I've read in the menswear press, Dunhill is no longer putting it's name on ANY tobacco products but is now focusing on High end clothing and jewelry and gifts. BAT owns the Dunhill name for the ciggs it produces and has for many years and will continue to produce them and sell them with the Dunhill name on them. The new pipes don't even have the Dunhill name on them rather they are now sold as the White Spot pipe and the stores are named such that they are sold in. From what I've read, Dunhill stopped making it's tinned tobacco sometime in the '60s, and only blended their tobaccos in thier stores. Many other firms such as Murray in Ireland blended them for many years , then Orlick and STG has been the latest blender. Production is supposed to end in December of this year, so get your Dunhill now as all that will be left after then will be what is on retailers shelves! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 9, 2018 6:33:01 GMT -5
From what I've read in the menswear press, Dunhill is no longer putting it's name on ANY tobacco products but is now focusing on High end clothing and jewelry and gifts. BAT owns the Dunhill name for the ciggs it produces and has for many years and will continue to produce them and sell them with the Dunhill name on them. The new pipes don't even have the Dunhill name on them rather they are now sold as the White Spot pipe and the stores are named such that they are sold in. From what I've read, Dunhill stopped making it's tinned tobacco sometime in the '60s, and only blended their tobaccos in thier stores. Many other firms such as Murray in Ireland blended them for many years , then Orlick and STG has been the latest blender. Production is supposed to end in December of this year, so get your Dunhill now as all that will be left after then will be what is on retailers shelves! Do you have enough Royal Yacht to do you? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 8:23:13 GMT -5
Michael has more Royal Yacht stashed then what Dunhill had on their shelves last year😜😜😂
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Post by Stanhill on Aug 9, 2018 14:34:27 GMT -5
...Production is supposed to end in December of this year,... Dunhill stopped pipe tobacco production as per 31/12-2017. |
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Post by william on Aug 9, 2018 14:40:49 GMT -5
...Production is supposed to end in December of this year,... Dunhill stopped pipe tobacco production as per 31/12-2017. I don't know if the method to date a Dunhill tin as explained on the Smoking Pipes website is accurate, but if it is, I bought several tins of Early Morning pipe in November of last year, and several more last month--all with the same date code (2012). So if the dating information is correct, some "flavors" might be stacked deeply in warehouses somewhere. (Of course this might all be wishful thinking). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 19:43:55 GMT -5
From what I've read in the menswear press, Dunhill is no longer putting it's name on ANY tobacco products Except cigarettes which still makes them enough money to justify keeping, I guess. |
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 9, 2018 20:26:29 GMT -5
From what I've read in the menswear press, Dunhill is no longer putting it's name on ANY tobacco products Except cigarettes which still makes them enough money to justify keeping, I guess. Dunhill hasn't had anything to do with the ciggarettes in several years since BAT bought the name and brand and has produced them for years. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2018 21:19:27 GMT -5
Go to the Dunhill site...ridiculously overpriced garbage....wearing their products would question your manhood.
Screw em.
Alfred is spinning in his grave, as are Mary and Richard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 21:41:21 GMT -5
Except cigarettes which still makes them enough money to justify keeping, I guess. Dunhill hasn't had anything to do with the ciggarettes in several years since BAT bought the name and brand and has produced them for years. I just mean that there are still Dunhill branded cigarettes. It's odd to me that they'd license the name for cigs but cease the other tobacco-related stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 21:43:59 GMT -5
Dunhill hasn't had anything to do with the ciggarettes in several years since BAT bought the name and brand and has produced them for years. I just mean that there are still Dunhill branded cigarettes. It's odd to me that they'd license the name for cigs but cease the other tobacco-related stuff. Not enough profit for BAT in pipe tobacco’s, that’s what it comes down to......profit and loss!! |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 9, 2018 21:58:07 GMT -5
“Never forget who brought you to the dance.”
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 10, 2018 4:51:05 GMT -5
These are my replacements for the big three: EMP: Cornell & Diehl Good Morning MM965: Peterson Old Dublin (where can you still find this stuff bulk?) Nightcap: GL Pease Quiet Nights I'm surprised at Quiet Nights as a Nightcap replacement. I would have thought either Westminster or Odyssey in the GLP line? Quiet nights: Ripe red virginias, fine orientals, smokey Cyprus Latakia, and a pinch of Acadian perique The smokey Cyprian lat and Turkish leaf on the base of red virginia and the pinch of good quality perique.. All of that combined in the dunhill ageing and blending technique marrying all of these components together with a high nicotine component without the major slap in the cranium is what makenight cap what it is. Basically what I described above is what GLP did when they made this blend. Perfect match? No. But cut from the same cloth. |
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 10, 2018 6:14:40 GMT -5
These are my replacements for the big three: EMP: Cornell & Diehl Good Morning MM965: Peterson Old Dublin (where can you still find this stuff bulk?) Nightcap: GL Pease Quiet Nights I'm surprised at Quiet Nights as a Nightcap replacement. I would have thought either Westminster or Odyssey in the GLP line? I was surprised with Quiet Nights too. Westminster would be my pick for London Mixture and I’m not sure if Odyssey is a match. But that’s just my opinion. |
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Post by johnlawitzke on Aug 10, 2018 8:19:57 GMT -5
Dunhill stopped pipe tobacco production as per 31/12-2017. I don't know if the method to date a Dunhill tin as explained on the Smoking Pipes website is accurate, but if it is, I bought several tins of Early Morning pipe in November of last year, and several more last month--all with the same date code (2012). So if the dating information is correct, some "flavors" might be stacked deeply in warehouses somewhere. (Of course this might all be wishful thinking). I think some suppliers weren’t rotating their stock. I received a total of 25 tins of 5 year old MM965 across three different orders from SP last fall. |
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Post by briarbuck on Aug 10, 2018 13:15:16 GMT -5
DNR just came back on stock fyi...
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Post by exbenedict on Aug 10, 2018 19:09:07 GMT -5
Personally, with Dunhill, my two favorites are nightcap and EMP and I am fully stocked up on them and the match varieties of these two are pretty good as well, so I am ok either way. I would love for someone else to get the license to blend them and keep them going, even if it's under a different name, but I know the legalities of this might prove expensive and with the market being what it is for tobacco, there may not be anyone willing to dish out the money to acquire them. We shall see. It's such an iconic name that I can't really see someone not going the extra mile to add it to their repertoire (I'm looking at you Laudisi).
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 10, 2018 21:02:57 GMT -5
Go to the Dunhill site...ridiculously overpriced garbage....wearing their products would question your manhood. Screw em. Alfred is spinning in his grave, as are Mary and Richard. . . . I wonder if he would like Dunhill eau de toilet water ? |
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Post by arturo7 on Aug 10, 2018 22:02:33 GMT -5
Not enough profit for BAT in pipe tobacco’s, that’s what it comes down to......profit and loss!!
Just like any other business.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 11, 2018 0:56:31 GMT -5
Go to the Dunhill site...ridiculously overpriced garbage....wearing their products would question your manhood. Screw em. Alfred is spinning in his grave, as are Mary and Richard. . . . I wonder if he would like Dunhill eau de toilet water ? I never got the term toilet water....a French thing. |
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Post by Stanhill on Aug 11, 2018 2:01:43 GMT -5
From my vague understanding based on half-forgotten forum posts, Dunhill stopped making Dunhill in the early 80s. They were then made by Murray in Belfast, and supposedly went downhill. Then I guess the brand had a hiatus and came back in the 90s, made by Orlik. Some say an improvement over Murrays, some say not. I'm sure there's a lot more to the story than that.... One criticism I read about the Orlik era was that while the original Dunhill Latakia recipes specified Dubec, Samsun, Smyrna or whatever, Orlik just used some generic "Oriental" leaf for everything. I never knew that dunhill went downhill. ...and now it's Donehill. |
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Post by Stanhill on Aug 11, 2018 4:06:08 GMT -5
trailboss . . . I wonder if he would like Dunhill eau de toilet water ? I never got the term toilet water....a French thing. They use it instead of toilet paper.
It's not true. I just made that up.
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 11, 2018 8:07:46 GMT -5
I never got the term toilet water....a French thing. They use it instead of toilet paper.
It's not true. I just made that up.
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Post by daveinlax on Aug 11, 2018 9:41:25 GMT -5
Go to the Dunhill site...ridiculously overpriced garbage....wearing their products would question your manhood. Screw em. Alfred is spinning in his grave, as are Mary and Richard. I think Alfred Henry, Mary and later Richard loved the history of the pipe business but they knew what made money. Dunhill diversified early on even before Alfred turned the company over to his brother and Alfred Henry to run off with his mistress.  |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 12, 2018 2:40:44 GMT -5
I'm never so quick to judge on marital affairs. Sometimes the one everyone thinks was run out on was actually the problem, but who knows, that's why I leave that sort of thing to the Dunhills.
I think the whole reason we had Dunhill tobaccos around for so long is because Richard WAS a pipesmoker and wanted the legacy to continue in some way.
The good news is I just checked out the new Dunhill pipes and they still have the name Alfred Dunhill on them. That part of the license wasn't excluded.
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