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Post by trailboss on Aug 15, 2018 2:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 15, 2018 3:38:03 GMT -5
...in their opinion...
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Post by flybypipe on Aug 15, 2018 5:29:32 GMT -5
I wonder if someone smoking a pipe was the cause of some trauma early on. Seems kind of obsessed, and not in a good way, like me.  |
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Post by lestrout on Aug 15, 2018 8:06:15 GMT -5
Yo trai
Interesting article, especially for so early in the morning. Actually, that pipe (bomb) is an interesting shape - not quite a pear and with nice flowing lines.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 15, 2018 10:06:18 GMT -5
Curious how some writers will twist and torture simple things into metaphors for calamity. Also annoying  Knucklehead is too kind a description. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 15, 2018 10:53:25 GMT -5
He only used 3F. He should have used 4F.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 15, 2018 11:25:27 GMT -5
He only used 3F. He should have used 4F. Yeah, and he missed the description. Should have been rifle powder, not blasting powder. The stuff hasn't been called blasting powder since the civil war. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 15, 2018 11:45:21 GMT -5
He only used 3F. He should have used 4F. Yeah, and he missed the description. Should have been rifle powder, not blasting powder. The stuff hasn't been called blasting powder since the civil war. I believe "gunpowder" is the correct term. 4F and finer will surely blast. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 11:55:13 GMT -5
Yup, definitely called gunpowder these days, 4F will more then blast!!
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Post by slowroll on Aug 15, 2018 12:33:35 GMT -5
Hey guys, my point was he used the wrong terminology. Yes, it'll blast, but that ain't what it says on the can. BTW, I have a can of the stuff that says "rifle powder." So there |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 14:50:02 GMT -5
I think the guy is just plain Ignorant, been running into a few of them as of late, some more then others sadly.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 15, 2018 18:16:02 GMT -5
I think the guy is just plain Ignorant, been running into a few of them as of late, some more then others sadly. It's an epidemic. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 18:34:50 GMT -5
I think the guy is just plain Ignorant, been running into a few of them as of late, some more then others sadly. It's an epidemic. To say the least! |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 15, 2018 21:01:03 GMT -5
Having a conversation with another artist when I was younger and she asked what a particular painting meant to me- I made up some bullshit and she was taking it hook and sinker and then I cracked up laughing. I told her it was a nature scene in ink and water colour. Isn't enough to just be interesting visually?
I feel like most art wrapped in political motive and corny juxtaposition is as such because the artist needs it to bring conversation to their otherwise mediocre and pointless work. Kitsch and gimmick in an attempt to appear clever and feed that ego. And by stating a political opinion, you have just gained a bunch of fans who maybe do not even possess the capacity to appreciate art.
My head hurts. haha
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Post by slowroll on Aug 15, 2018 23:14:17 GMT -5
Having a conversation with another artist when I was younger and she asked what a particular painting meant to me- I made up some bullshit and she was taking it hook and sinker and then I cracked up laughing. I told her it was a nature scene in ink and water colour. Isn't enough to just be interesting visually? I feel like most art wrapped in political motive and corny juxtaposition is as such because the artist needs it to bring conversation to their otherwise mediocre and pointless work. Kitsch and gimmick in an attempt to appear clever and feed that ego. And by stating a political opinion, you have just gained a bunch of fans who maybe do not even possess the capacity to appreciate art. My head hurts. haha You've said it perfectly. More codswallop is passed off as art than real art exists. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 16, 2018 2:54:46 GMT -5
Having a conversation with another artist when I was younger and she asked what a particular painting meant to me- I made up some bullshit and she was taking it hook and sinker and then I cracked up laughing. I told her it was a nature scene in ink and water colour. Isn't enough to just be interesting visually? I feel like most art wrapped in political motive and corny juxtaposition is as such because the artist needs it to bring conversation to their otherwise mediocre and pointless work. Kitsch and gimmick in an attempt to appear clever and feed that ego. And by stating a political opinion, you have just gained a bunch of fans who maybe do not even possess the capacity to appreciate art. My head hurts. haha I agree. But what I can't understand is when art critics analyse a piece of abstract work and say something like this... 'the red represents humankind's struggle with authority. This splodge here is the artist trying to escape real life and bring the dreamworld into reality. And the vertical lines represent the government.' And I'm thinking... Huh? How can you get that from a few brush strokes? I'm not knocking art critics, but I just don't get it... It's the scientist in me. I'd love to splat some paint around and have it critiqued and see what comes of it, and then be able to say, "nope, it's just some paint." Even if there's a painting of a gun - just a gun - you might hear a story about what the gun represents etc. How do we know that the artist wasn't looking around the room for something to paint, saw a gun and thought, 'that'll do'? Maybe each piece of art comes with a note from the artist explaining what it's about. |
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Post by slowroll on Aug 16, 2018 10:46:57 GMT -5
Daddy, you also have it absolutely correct also. Most art critics feed everyone codswallop and look smug about it, when all that is there is splodges of flipping paint. Same with music. I happen to be an aficionado of classical music and older jazz. Always made me nuts listening to some critic or concert director telling us how to "understand" a piece of 20th century atonal music. Understand? It either sounds (looks) good or it doesn't. Dipstick music directors trying to sell us music that sounds like a chainsaw in a barrel. Or art critics rhapsodizing over a paint spill.
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Post by lostdog13 on Aug 18, 2018 2:07:42 GMT -5
Daddy, you also have it absolutely correct also. Most art critics feed everyone codswallop and look smug about it, when all that is there is splodges of flipping paint. Same with music. I happen to be an aficionado of classical music and older jazz. Always made me nuts listening to some critic or concert director telling us how to "understand" a piece of 20th century atonal music. Understand? It either sounds (looks) good or it doesn't. Dipstick music directors trying to sell us music that sounds like a chainsaw in a barrel. Or art critics rhapsodizing over a paint spill. This ^^^ I have always loved listening to people comment on the meaning behind songs, specifically what the artists' inspiration was. It never mattered what the artist was thinking, feeling, intending; what mattered is what it means to the person listening to it. I am far more into music than art, but I would think that it is the same for art. What it means is what it means to you and whether you like it or not. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 18, 2018 8:50:47 GMT -5
Daddy, you also have it absolutely correct also. Most art critics feed everyone codswallop and look smug about it, when all that is there is splodges of flipping paint. Same with music. I happen to be an aficionado of classical music and older jazz. Always made me nuts listening to some critic or concert director telling us how to "understand" a piece of 20th century atonal music. Understand? It either sounds (looks) good or it doesn't. Dipstick music directors trying to sell us music that sounds like a chainsaw in a barrel. Or art critics rhapsodizing over a paint spill. This ^^^ I have always loved listening to people comment on the meaning behind songs, specifically what the artists' inspiration was. It never mattered what the artist was thinking, feeling, intending; what mattered is what it means to the person listening to it. I am far more into music than art, but I would think that it is the same for art. What it means is what it means to you and whether you like it or not. I once listened to a dj ask Don McClean: “”When you get right down to the inner depths of your soul, what does writing Bye Bye Miss American Pie mean to you?” (He was looking for some sort of philosophical answer) Don said “Writing that song meant that I never have to work again” |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 18, 2018 8:53:50 GMT -5
This ^^^ I have always loved listening to people comment on the meaning behind songs, specifically what the artists' inspiration was. It never mattered what the artist was thinking, feeling, intending; what mattered is what it means to the person listening to it. I am far more into music than art, but I would think that it is the same for art. What it means is what it means to you and whether you like it or not. I once listened to a dj ask Don McClean: “”When you get right down to the inner depths of your soul, what does writing Bye Bye Miss American Pie mean to you?” (He was looking for some sort of philosophical answer) Don said “Writing that song meant that I never have to work again” Fantastic!!! |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 18, 2018 10:35:52 GMT -5
This ^^^ I have always loved listening to people comment on the meaning behind songs, specifically what the artists' inspiration was. It never mattered what the artist was thinking, feeling, intending; what mattered is what it means to the person listening to it. I am far more into music than art, but I would think that it is the same for art. What it means is what it means to you and whether you like it or not. I once listened to a dj ask Don McClean: “”When you get right down to the inner depths of your soul, what does writing Bye Bye Miss American Pie mean to you?” (He was looking for some sort of philosophical answer) Don said “Writing that song meant that I never have to work again” I was always reminded of a story from an old cassette tape of fables I had as a kid. The Emperor's New Clothes. People claim to see things that aren't there in an effort to seem clever and the rest follow because they do not wan't to admit they don't get it. |
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Knucklehead is too kind a description.
