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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 11:22:53 GMT -5
Yesterday, my ex-wife returned to me a Pipestone pipe made for me by Ray Redwing, a Vietnam Navy Veteran and member of the Santee Dakota Nation. Ray has been carving pipes for 30 years. I'm so happy to have this pipe again!
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 18, 2018 11:34:38 GMT -5
I'm glad you're reunited. Any pics?
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 11:42:31 GMT -5
I'm glad you're reunited. Any pics? I'll post some later this evening.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 11:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 11:55:47 GMT -5
Nice gesture on the part of your ex-wife. I’ll check later to see pictures you post. Clean it up and stuff it with your favorite tobacco, it’s time for the pipe to be smoked....enjoy👍👍
I’m at my ex- wife’s place now, been my ex since 1975. She’s the mother of my children and at times needs my help. We are much better friends now compared to when we were married. Also lives less then 5 miles from my daughter and 3 granddaughter’s. Tonight I’ll be making dinner and my granddaughter’s are sleeping over, my daughter will be working late at a vineyard. It’s SPOIL the kids night👍👌👍🎈🎊🎉
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 18, 2018 12:26:34 GMT -5
oh wow. That's an interesting pipe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 12:46:55 GMT -5
WOW indeed, that’s a beauty 👍👍. What tobacco are you going to smoke for the first time in years?
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 18, 2018 14:24:45 GMT -5
Nice of her , glad youre glad and that makes me glad.!
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 15:19:06 GMT -5
WOW indeed, that’s a beauty 👍👍. What tobacco are you going to smoke for the first time in years? ...still trying to decide... I know how to make traditional Kinnikinnick, but I'm not sure it's appropriate... it may just remain unsmoked... was hoping peterd-Buffalo Spirit might have some advice...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 15:23:23 GMT -5
WOW indeed, that’s a beauty 👍👍. What tobacco are you going to smoke for the first time in years? ...still trying to decide... I know how to make traditional Kinnikinnick, but I'm not sure it's appropriate... it may just remain unsmoked... That's what I would do. I am an advocate of smoking all pipes in the rotation, but there are exceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 15:25:14 GMT -5
WOW indeed, that’s a beauty 👍👍. What tobacco are you going to smoke for the first time in years? ...still trying to decide... I know how to make traditional Kinnikinnick, but I'm not sure it's appropriate... it may just remain unsmoked... At least the pipe is back where it belongs👍👍. If the day comes and we all meet up with Peterd that’s the perfect pass around pipe. That’s a pipe you should get fancy hooks and hang it on a wall for now.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 18, 2018 15:26:49 GMT -5
Outstanding pipe. Tradition should be carried on...not enough taught about our Native American tribes and their culture. Unfortunately, our culture tried to and mostly succeeded in wiping out all that knowledge and tradition.
On a separate note...good that you all who have ex's and are friends with those folks (ex's), carry on the good feelings.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Aug 18, 2018 15:37:59 GMT -5
… I have several pipestone bowl pipes...similar to ceramic and the bowls can get hot...you can smoke any tobacco you choose...however, with the pipe pictured a nice wall hung pipe may be in your best interest...
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 15:43:49 GMT -5
...I know it's not an ordinary pipe... I have a first-edition copy of "The Sacred Pipe" by Joseph Epes Brown, who relates Black Elk's seven rites of the Oglala Sioux... and I've read it many times...
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 15:45:31 GMT -5
… I have several pipestone bowl pipes...similar to ceramic and the bowls can get hot...you can smoke any tobacco you choose...however, with the pipe pictured a nice wall hung pipe may be in your best interest... Thank you, peterd-Buffalo Spirit !
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 15:53:24 GMT -5
Nice of her , glad youre glad and that makes me glad.! Thanks, oldcajun123 !
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 16:17:02 GMT -5
...I think I'll take peterd-Buffalo Spirit 's advice, and leave it as is, unless we all somehow get together... then, we'll pass it around...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:22:01 GMT -5
...I think I'll take peterd-Buffalo Spirit 's advice, and leave it as is, unless we all somehow get together... then, we'll pass it around... Perfect 👍👍👍. Like I said it should be hung on a wall, it’s a piece of history and Art.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:25:23 GMT -5
That is a beautiful pipe, Brother Twist. Maybe kinnikinnick is proper for that pipe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:35:02 GMT -5
If your enchanted with the style Drama, but want a more practical smoker, you could get a Don Warren Calumet.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 18, 2018 17:05:01 GMT -5
That sure beats her being on the warpath wanting to take your scalp!
Glad you got it back, great looking pipe!
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 18, 2018 20:29:57 GMT -5
Pretty freaking cool you got your pipe back and actually a pretty decent thing for the ex-wife to do by giving it back
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 18, 2018 20:36:56 GMT -5
...it's a genuine, smokeable pipe... not a wall-hanger per se... but I don't want to disrespect the tradition associated with it...
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 19, 2018 11:27:01 GMT -5
Give me a little time and I’ll be back later with the Lakota Pipe Ceremony and the reason your Sacred Pipe should not remain put together until you’re ready to perform the ceremony, I will also share a pipestone pipe made for me by a Native American who said I was an honorary member of his tribe, being of Italian extraction I sent him a Castello telling him he was now an honorary member of my tribe as well. banjo
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 19, 2018 11:39:09 GMT -5
Give me a little time and I’ll be back later with the Lakota Pipe Ceremony and the reason your Sacred Pipe should not remain put together until you’re ready to perform the ceremony, I will also share a pipestone pipe made for me by a Native American who said I was an honorary member of his tribe, being of Italian extraction I sent him a Castello telling him he was now an honorary member of my tribe as well. banjo I'm curious. Don't wait too long before sharing.
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Post by bambooshank on Aug 19, 2018 11:55:39 GMT -5
I was gifted a Native American Ceremonial pipe made by my friend Roland Daroadie aka rekamepip or pipe maker John Barrett. I originally used it on Veterans Day that year to honor all veterans past, present and yet to serve especially Johns father who had recently passed away. I use the Lakota Pipe Ceremony on this day, with straight Virginia tobacco, Memorial Day, it was to honor those who gave their all for this nation, on Veterans Day it will be repeated again to include those that have served and continue to serve. May their sacrifice be always remembered. banjo The Lakota Pipe Ceremony The pipe holder stands holding the bowl of the pipe in his left hand, the stem in his right, pointing the stem to the East. He sprinkles a small amount of tobacco on the ground as an offering to Mother Earth and The East. As he loads a small pinch of tobacco into the pipe, he will say something like: "The East is Red. The East is where the Morning Star rises, the Star of Knowledge. Red is for the Rising Sun which brings us a new day and another chance to learn. We thank the Great Spirit for each day we are allowed to live upon Mother Earth under Father Sky, Tunkashila. We pray for Knowledge, for from Knowledge comes Peace". The pipe holder faces the South and again gives tobacco to Mother Earth, continues to load the pipe, saying something like: "The South is Yellow. Yellow is for the color of Spring and the warm south wind, and the yellow hoop. While we load this pipe, we give thanks for our strength, growth, and healing that is brought forth from the south wind. We use this as a time of planting so that the seeds may grow into a new life." The pipe holder faces the West and again gives tobacco to Mother Earth, continues to load the pipe, saying something like: "West is Black. West is where the Sun sets. West is were the Spirit Helpers live and black stands for the Spirit World. We will all go to the Spirit World and we will all know one another and our deeds. We seek our spiritual wisdom in the West and pray for help from our Spirit Guides". The same is done for the North: "White is for the North. The White Giant covers Mother Earth with the white blanket of snow. White Buffalo Calf Woman, Ptecincala Ska Wakan Winan, came to us from the North. We stand here seeking endurance, and health from the North". The pipe holder now touches the stem to the ground, saying something like: "Green is the color of Mother Earth. We are all part of Mother Earth, each rock, each four legged, each two legged, all creatures, plants and minerals. We are all related. We respect our Mother Earth and protect her". The pipe holder now holds pipe above his head with the stem up at an angle, perhaps at the Sun or Moon: "Father Sky in union with Mother Earth are our true parents. Father Sky gives us energy for our lives and heats our bodies and our lodges. We are thankful for Father Sky". The pipe holder now holds the stem straight up: "Great Spirit, Creator of us all, Creator of all things, Creator of the four directions, Mother Earth, and Father Sky, we offer this pipe to you". Now the pipe is lighted, and passed around the circle sunwise from east to south to west to north, returning to the east, each person free to offer a prayer or saying if they choose. On completion of its journey around the sacred circle the pipe is capped with sage or bark, and separated, the stem from the pipe, set aside in its pouch until it is smoked again. The typical pipe pouch has separate compartments for the pipe and the stem so that they do not touch when not being used in ritual ceremony. As a gesture of thanks I sent John one of my favorite Castello Slightly Bent Dublin Pipes. I also went to see Little Bull, a Native American who runs a shop selling goods made by Native Americans all over the US and Canada. When I got there he was out but his wife saw the pipe and asked me to take it apart before handing it to her. I did as she asked and queried her as to why take it apart. She told me once the pipe was together it was a sacred instrument and was meant to perform a Ceremony and once complete it is taken down with the bowl and shaft placed in separate bags until such time it was to be used to perform another Ceremony, I have followed this tradition since learning of it.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 19, 2018 13:07:47 GMT -5
THANK YOU, Banjo!
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 19, 2018 14:46:12 GMT -5
Wow, that was comprehensive. You put thought and effort into that. Thanks.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 19, 2018 14:50:30 GMT -5
Wow, that was comprehensive. You put thought and effort into that. Thanks. I was well-familiar with that information, but I thought it was great that bambooshank took the time and concern to post it. Pipe-smoking has a long history that most of us are not aware of.
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Post by daveinlax on Aug 19, 2018 15:58:33 GMT -5
I was gifted a Native American Ceremonial pipe made by my friend Roland Daroadie aka rekamepip or pipe maker John Barrett. I met rekampepip at a few pipe shows over the years. I'm not positive but I seem to remember his first was John.
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