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Post by puffy on Aug 18, 2018 15:35:17 GMT -5
The city I live in has a good many 100 year old very big trees. These trees have lived their life span.Many of them are decayed inside.Those who are in charge say these trees are historic and shouldn't come down.Today one of them did come down.It destroyed an electrical transformer and cut off power to almost 2,000 homes including mine for almost 6 hours.When trees pose a danger they should be taken down historic or not..Some times change is for the better ..An example.. During this power outage our only line of communication was a smart phone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 15:44:40 GMT -5
I understand the historic factors, but if a tree is dead it will eventually come tumbling down. Case in point, look at the expense and damage of the tree that fell down today! Guess the town council is waiting until a tree comes down and kills someone....makes absolutely no sense!
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Post by trailboss on Aug 18, 2018 15:45:38 GMT -5
Los Angeles planted a lot of Ficus trees back in the day, and they are beautiful and proved a lot of shade, but they are presenting a huge problem. www.google.com/amp/s/losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/ficus-trees-hollywood-fight/amp/I am thinking about taking out the two trees in my backyard, and planting a single focus tree, they are fast growing, and when done properly with a deep root watering setup, the massive sprawling root problem can be mitigated pretty well. |
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Post by flybypipe on Aug 18, 2018 16:23:31 GMT -5
I’m on the Shade Tree Committee for my town of 1900 people. The trees have to come down if they have decay. Not only are they unsafe, but disease can also be a problem. I personally had to have a huge sugar maple taken down because it was slowly splitting and it overhung the street. My house was built in 1850, so it was probably planted around that time but had a lot of life left in it. Hated to do it, but it was the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:29:19 GMT -5
I had two silver maples removed this Spring that had become dangerous. They were dropping large branches more and more over the past couple of years. The final straw was the 35' and probably 600lb branch that could have hit one of us and narrowly missed two of our vehicles. The house is warmer this Summer, but I don't worry about those killer trees any more every time it is windy.
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Post by flybypipe on Aug 18, 2018 16:48:52 GMT -5
Los Angeles planted a lot of Ficus trees back in the day, and they are beautiful and proved a lot of shade, but they are presenting a huge problem. www.google.com/amp/s/losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/ficus-trees-hollywood-fight/amp/I am thinking about taking out the two trees in my backyard, and planting a single focus tree, they are fast growing, and when done properly with a deep root watering setup, the massive sprawling root problem can be mitigated pretty well. Our village has the same root problem with sugar maples planted 60 years or so ago. I’m looking into Ginko trees. I went some nurserys with some mature ones, and they come straight up out of the ground like a pillar. There was no heaving up of the area around the trunk. They are prehistoric, so they can survive almost anything. Only get males, as the fruit of the females smells like dog poop! |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 18, 2018 20:02:00 GMT -5
Here's our local attraction... people come from all over and take pictures of it. NO ONE is allowed to touch it. Several years back a truck came through and knocked a limb off, he received all sorts of fines. There's bars holding branches up, and together. I'm a local now, so we laugh at the tourist taking pics of the tree. Honestly though, its quite remarkable.  |
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Post by briarpipenyc on Aug 19, 2018 8:01:26 GMT -5
Interesting story.
Not all trees make good sidewalk, or, "shade trees". Silver Maple being probably one of the worst. Brashy wood, the rotting, fermenting fruit (Mulberry), and the drunk animals, bees, wasps, that eat rotting fruit, can be a hazard to man and property, and if infested, diseases can spread to other, healthy trees, etc.
Some old trees have great sentimental and historic value, but they are vegetables, after all, and unfortunately, have a finite lifespan. If growing in an isolated area, no harm, no foul.....but if they come down on a house, power lines, and people....that's not good.
Sadly, a commemorative plaques should replace dangerous trees.
Frank
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 19, 2018 8:08:43 GMT -5
 I agree dangerous trees need to come down. I say this a little shamefully I cussed a priest out where my Grandparents are buried, he had 12 to 14 live oaks 60 to 70 ft tall, healthy cut down to make a parking lot in front of church. I’m glad he had a white collar or I would have kicked his arse. Sometimes trees are cut for no good reason.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 19, 2018 8:41:15 GMT -5
Here's our local attraction... people come from all over and take pictures of it. NO ONE is allowed to touch it. Several years back a truck came through and knocked a limb off, he received all sorts of fines. There's bars holding branches up, and together. I'm a local now, so we laugh at the tourist taking pics of the tree. Honestly though, its quite remarkable. Awesome tree I wonder how many squirrels were shot out of that tree to feed families 200 years ago |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 19, 2018 9:29:52 GMT -5
Probably a lot. Its in the middle of downtown, by the court house. I've always heard that back in the day it was used for other reasons as well.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 19, 2018 10:24:30 GMT -5
Probably a lot. Its in the middle of downtown, by the court house. I've always heard that back in the day it was used for other reasons as well. Same here in Arkansas pitiful I tell you just pitiful |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 10:38:46 GMT -5
Here in NC there is a large river called the Neuse River which runs over 250 miles through the State. Many a “ tall tree “ has been used for hanging along the river....it’s time the name of that river to be changed. Guess it’s just to costly to replace all the signs!
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 19, 2018 11:10:53 GMT -5
My trees drop a half ton of limbs every year. One went through the roof of the storeroom last month. But the trees are the main reason we bought the house. Our own 2/3 acre shade patch. I have to take out two oaks that are pushing up the driveway, but I hate to do it.
About a decade ago, we had a drought in Houston that killed about 30% of the historic oaks in Herman and Memorial parks, and the Rice University campus, and along Main St. Great wailing and nashing of teeth, but nothing to be done about it. With the drought stress disease followed.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 19, 2018 18:25:34 GMT -5
I miss having oak readily available cheap for barbecuing, Ron...I wish I had an oak to take down.  |
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Post by driftingfate on Aug 19, 2018 19:41:22 GMT -5
Los Angeles planted a lot of Ficus trees back in the day, and they are beautiful and proved a lot of shade, but they are presenting a huge problem. www.google.com/amp/s/losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/ficus-trees-hollywood-fight/amp/I am thinking about taking out the two trees in my backyard, and planting a single focus tree, they are fast growing, and when done properly with a deep root watering setup, the massive sprawling root problem can be mitigated pretty well. You hit the nail on the head - you need a deep watering system in AZ to get the roots deep enough. As for taking down dead trees, better sooner than later. One need only look at northern AZ and the wildfires to see what happens when the tree hugging goes too far. Storm damage and downed power lines are also legit reasons. My grandmother refused to take down an old tree in her front yard (MN, not AZ) until it came down on her house. Oops. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 19, 2018 20:14:55 GMT -5
I miss having oak readily available lcheap for barbecuing, Ron...I wish I had an oak to take down. These will probably go to waste. In our old neighborhood, after a hurricane all the neighbors would get out their chainsaws and the downed trees were piled in cords by the second day. If we went too long between tropical storms, they had to buy firewood. Of course if you want to come get them..... They are about 10" diameter and 50' tall. I figure 3500 pounds. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 19, 2018 23:20:34 GMT -5
I miss having oak readily available lcheap for barbecuing, Ron...I wish I had an oak to take down. These will probably go to waste. In our old neighborhood, after a hurricane all the neighbors would get out their chainsaws and the downed trees were piled in cords by the second day. If we went too long between tropical storms, they had to buy firewood. Of course if you want to come get them..... They are about 10" diameter and 50' tall. I figure 3500 pounds. I don't know what the cost would be of loading a railcar and shipping it to Phoenix, but we have to pay ridiculous prices for good barbecuing wood... Saguaro has a wood center, but it just doesn't perform. If I had a dually and a nice tandem axle trailer, I would figure out a way to come have a smoke and give you tobacco in trade, but looking at new trucks at 70k and up (without a trailer)....just doesn't compute. |
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I agree dangerous trees need to come down. I say this a little shamefully I cussed a priest out where my Grandparents are buried, he had 12 to 14 live oaks 60 to 70 ft tall, healthy cut down to make a parking lot in front of church. I’m glad he had a white collar or I would have kicked his arse. Sometimes trees are cut for no good reason.
