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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 15:48:33 GMT -5
I am an aromatic guy, and I probably rate about one or two days past newbie. One of my first stashes in the cellar were about pound each of Gramercy Park, #191 and Rumcake made by Carole Burns. And, all three are my favorite aromatics. With Mrs. Burns retiring, I know that John Brandt has taken over keeping some of those blends alive. I know Rumcake and Gramercy Park are listed on the Wilke Pipe Tobacco website; although, I don't see #191.
Has anyone tried Mr. Brandt's Gramercy Park and Rumcake? Was there anything lost in the change over? I am just curious, as I tap my smoking stash slowly. I just would like to know if I can keep my cellared P&W and enjoy the stuff from Wilke Pipe Tobacco, less the #191 without missing anything. Sorry, but with McClelland going the way of the Dodo, I want to keep my cellared stuff - which is not nearly large enough - to keep me enjoying my smoking hobby going, as we go through what appears to be more and more pressure from the nanny culture to take away our hobby.
Also, is there talk of anyone taking over the McCelland blends in the future? I see that some older blends get picked up by other manufacturers and re-issued. Just curious, as my McClelland stash is going to be saved for retirement, but I do miss them.
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Post by beardedmi on Aug 25, 2018 16:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 16:29:06 GMT -5
I also found they do have #191. Apparently, I'm not good with them interwebz.
And, thanks for the info. I am not sure I can find a better tester than JimInks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 16:35:47 GMT -5
Wilke blends are simply outstanding....I always have a few of their tobacco’s near by.....#191 is one of my favorite Wilke tobacco’s 👍👍
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 17:24:32 GMT -5
Wilke blends are simply outstanding....I always have a few of their tobacco’s near by.....#191 is one of my favorite Wilke tobacco’s 👍👍 Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 17:41:16 GMT -5
Wilke blends are simply outstanding....I always have a few of their tobacco’s near by.....#191 is one of my favorite Wilke tobacco’s 👍👍 Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. The Rum Cake is the perfect holiday or dessert blend. You need a half pound of that tobacco for sure👍 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 18:12:43 GMT -5
I have smoked several of John's blends. If anything, they are better than Carole's. I think she was getting burned out. John follows the recipes to the letter and he has gone back to the earlier formulation on some. He is also reviving some blends that were not available from Carole. I think he is a member here.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 18:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 18:22:53 GMT -5
Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. The Rum Cake is the perfect holiday or dessert blend. You need a half pound of that tobacco for sure👍 You mean another half pound? Then, I'll have two pounds  |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 18:23:40 GMT -5
I have smoked several of John's blends. If anything, they are better than Carole's. I think she was getting burned out. John follows the recipes to the letter and he has gone back to the earlier formulation on some. He is also reviving some blends that were not available from Carole. I think he is a member here. Well, off to the website  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 18:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 18:24:38 GMT -5
Patrick ^^^^^^^ good for you👍👍👍. One day in the near future that fine blend will surely be gone forever!
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Post by Darin on Aug 25, 2018 18:40:16 GMT -5
I don't believe I've tried anything from them yet ... suggestions for good non-aros?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 18:51:16 GMT -5
I don't believe I've tried anything from them yet ... suggestions for good non-aros? Wilke #524....it’s a great English blend Wilke Surbrug’s Best Make......one their oldest blends |
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Post by Darin on Aug 25, 2018 19:18:49 GMT -5
I don't believe I've tried anything from them yet ... suggestions for good non-aros? Wilke #524....it’s a great English blend Wilke Surbrug’s Best Make......one their oldest blends Thanks Ted ... I should have also said "non-Latakia". Any really good Va/Bur's or straight up Burleys? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 19:36:08 GMT -5
Wilke #524....it’s a great English blend Wilke Surbrug’s Best Make......one their oldest blends Thanks Ted ... I should have also said "non-Latakia". Any really good Va/Bur's or straight up Burleys? Call John and ask him. He doesn't bite any is very friendly. |
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Post by Darin on Aug 25, 2018 19:39:11 GMT -5
Scanning TR.com really quickly tells me it's not their forte ... Nut Brown Burley sounded good but it's discontinued. Besides, I've got too much tobacco to go looking very hard for more.  |
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Post by JimInks on Aug 25, 2018 20:53:02 GMT -5
Wilke blends are simply outstanding....I always have a few of their tobacco’s near by.....#191 is one of my favorite Wilke tobacco’s 👍👍 Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. First, I thank you for the earlier compliment. Secondly, the #515 is the tobacco Basil Rathbone smoked, and it happens to be one of my favorite aros, too. I agree with RonV that John's not only following the recipes to the letter, and many are just as good as Carole's work, but many are also better now. I think John's Wilke blends are among the very best aros on the market, and his other blends are very good, too.
John is one of the friendliest guys in the business, and has a good sense of humor, too.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 20:54:06 GMT -5
His aros are very light, not anything like a gooper. Most of the ones with Latakia are also very mild.
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Post by JimInks on Aug 25, 2018 20:56:47 GMT -5
The reviews with my Wilke reviews only include the ones John has made. My earlier Wilke reviews are all on Tobacco Reviews, along with the new ones. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 20:59:49 GMT -5
Wilke blends are simply outstanding....I always have a few of their tobacco’s near by.....#191 is one of my favorite Wilke tobacco’s 👍👍 Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. Rathbone's blend was #515. JimInks and mine as well. You probably wouldn't like it. 🤠😈 Carole still restores and repairs old pipes and has several pages of nice ones. |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 21:05:02 GMT -5
Being an old movie fan, I enjoy Rumcake given that it is a take on a been made for Basil Rathbone. There is another one that was THE blend made for him, but I cannot remember it, and I am too tired to go look for it. Carole had some good stories about it. Supposedly, there was a local playhouse near where she lived that was putting on some Sherlock Holmes plays. They found out about the Rathbone connection, and she supplied them with that same tobacco and some calabashes. Rathbone's blend was #515. JimInks and mine as well. You probably wouldn't like it. 🤠😈 Carole still restores and repairs old pipes and has several pages of nice ones. Yeah, I went back to the website and checked it out. I've got two dozen movies with Basil Rathbone in it. I think it would be cool to have a marathon of his movies while smoking his blend! I am going to load up soon, but I am in the middle of an unfortunate flare up of adulthood. Once I get over it, I plan on building a tobacco fort annex to the ammo fort  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 21:06:27 GMT -5
Wilke #524....it’s a great English blend Wilke Surbrug’s Best Make......one their oldest blends Thanks Ted ... I should have also said "non-Latakia". Any really good Va/Bur's or straight up Burleys? I’d call John, ask if he can make the Nut Brown Burley. 👍👍👍 |
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Post by JimInks on Aug 25, 2018 21:07:36 GMT -5
Thanks Ted ... I should have also said "non-Latakia". Any really good Va/Bur's or straight up Burleys? I’d call John, ask if he can make the Nut Brown Burley. 👍👍👍 Nope. Can't be done. I asked John. That's gone the way of the do-do. Wish it wasn't so, but it is. |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Aug 25, 2018 21:09:04 GMT -5
The reviews with my Wilke reviews only include the ones John has made. My earlier Wilke reviews are all on Tobacco Reviews, along with the new ones. Those reviews on Tobacco Reviews were the ones that led me to PW&W |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 21:21:08 GMT -5
I’d call John, ask if he can make the Nut Brown Burley. 👍👍👍 Nope. Can't be done. I asked John. That's gone the way of the do-do. Wish it wasn't so, but it is. Thanks Jim, what a superb Burley tobacco....a darn shame it can no longer be made! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 25, 2018 22:24:15 GMT -5
Nope. Can't be done. I asked John. That's gone the way of the do-do. Wish it wasn't so, but it is. Thanks Jim, what a superb Burley tobacco....a darn shame it can no longer be made! The tobacco is just no longer available. You know, like McClelland's Virginia. Can't make an omelet without eggs. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 22:38:15 GMT -5
Thanks Jim, what a superb Burley tobacco....a darn shame it can no longer be made! The tobacco is just no longer available. You know, like McClelland's Virginia. Can't make an omelet without eggs. I’m finding many tobacco’s are no longer available due to McClelland’s closing their doors. It’s really taking its toll on a great B&M here in NC...McCranies...I’d hate to see them close their doors. Just wonderful people👍 |
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 25, 2018 23:27:47 GMT -5
" ..... Also, is there talk of anyone taking over the McCelland blends in the future? I see that some older blends get picked up by other manufacturers and re-issued. Just curious, as my McClelland stash is going to be saved for retirement, but I do miss them." The main reason Mike closed it all down was he could no longer get the varieties of Va's and other tobaccos they used in the blends anymore. With this being the case for him it would be the case for anyone else. The blends would not be the same. |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Aug 29, 2018 10:25:21 GMT -5
I noticed that Gotham Court has been discontinued. it sounded like one that would suit me. was that due to it not being popular or because ingredients are no longer available?
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