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Post by Motto on Jul 6, 2016 17:22:14 GMT -5
i am not an extremist of any kind but the jumped up office boy Chilcot criticising the much respected ex Prime Minister Mr. Blair & by implication President Bush , it is the voice of the Solomonic polygamous cult & their Jihadi masters of the warlord cult, cheating and creeping into office boy jobs , by terrorist threats and dirty money, with silken serpentine tongues deceiving gullible rich pseudo intellectuals with no faith or anchor, it is the unelected office boys & media barons & dirty money back room gangsters, corrupting democratically elected leaders. Excuse the rant folks but a problem shared is a problem halved, and confession is good for the soul.
Less than 700 British military personal were killed in the 13 year Iraq/Afghan campaign of occassional battle and many skirmishes, with all respect to the dead, in the usual civilian year nearly 2, 000 a year are killed on the roads going about their peaceful business, when I think of the British military I think of Russian novels of the 19th century. We are all military now after World War Two. , with civilian or playboy dressed up regulars with their bullpoo and square bashing and fancy parades. I could have been conscripted or volunteered like my Father & my Uncles in the 2nd World War and Grandparents in the 1st World War, but us epigone generation have been blessed with Atomic peace, Thank God & our Allies.
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Post by herbinedave on Jul 6, 2016 20:21:25 GMT -5
700 dead is to many. Ask their parents and loved ones!
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Post by Motto on Jul 6, 2016 21:49:56 GMT -5
700 dead is to many. Ask their parents and loved ones! Maybe I am an old epigone naive armchair wannabe warrior sir , but Christians in the Levant have faced almost complete genocide, A serviceman in this country offers his life to God , Crown & Christ, in good times and bad. We still suffer the Second World War martyrs in this parish , my life is not my own but is to serve God , Crown & Christ in peace or war. The martyrs sacrifice of the past in two world wars has given me , my little freedom, do I deny the future youth their freedom by my cowardice. I can understand jihadi suicide bombers,in their desperation and their hope, I have had Muslim colleagues at colleges, but America is another continent another culture. But each man walks his own way in the light of his God or philosopher, these military were regular volunteers. Is not 2, 000 dead in the uk on the roads to many but for what cause. There were over 11,000 firearm deaths in the USA in 2013 alone, and in 2012 , 92 road deaths per day, is that a worthwhile waste of lives. The jihadi warriors are at our door , do you forget the Twin towers, and the on going terrorism crimes. But I am an old man that was young once, and it is the tragedy of life that old men send the young to war, but these old men often offered their lives as well in their youth, but thank God the Iraq/Afghan conflict was not the 1st. nor the 2nd World Wars, I offered myself willingly to the Royal Marines as a teenager but was not good enough, but such is life... But I am not a war monger, as an elder only son it is my duty and calling, to serve God , better an unjust peace than a just war as the ancients said, and I know injustice , but why complain...so peace brothers & sisters, but the wolf is at the door , so be prepared. I can still serve. Forgive me if I sound unfeeling but your good , kindly, sentiments would not convince an ISIS warrior of his righteous cause, nor their elders, nor his hope in his millions of brother worldwide for jihad. Peace friends, in the love of Christ. I have had my last pipe & drink this early morning on the Eastern shore of the Atlantic , beside Europe, nearby mighty Africa. And will retire to some rest, God Willing.
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Post by herbinedave on Jul 7, 2016 8:36:44 GMT -5
Rich old men send the young to war, lets get that straight!
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Post by Motto on Jul 7, 2016 8:58:44 GMT -5
Rich old men send the young to war, lets get that straight! Very true, sadly , the folly of words & reality, the pipe dream of eventide wakes up to the light of day of rich bankers & friends profiteering from the death of our young people, but two sides to the same coin, let us beg to differ sir, we cannot escape history , or current affairs, I think of James Stewart in Shenandoah, best keep silent & light a pipe......
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Post by Motto on Jul 7, 2016 9:25:47 GMT -5
Rich old men send the young to war, lets get that straight! I do not go down town often these days, but when I do the homeless beggars ( & occassional poor conman) often catch my attention , and I chat & give them any coins I have often found they can be young veterans of Iraq/Afghan, that could be me or mine, yet alien mercenaries & jihadis are given big houses for there polygamous families and extra state benefit for all the wives & kids, and get compensation for the least thing unjustly. I am lighting a pipe so will shut up complaining.
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Post by herbinedave on Jul 7, 2016 11:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by sparks on Jul 7, 2016 12:04:04 GMT -5
Gentleman... while I appreciate this conversation is quite civil, why is it that a simple rule cannot be followed? No politics please. It's not hard.
I understand the desire to rant, but type it out, get your rant out and then delete it. This is not the place.
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Post by Motto on Jul 7, 2016 18:23:50 GMT -5
Gentleman... while I appreciate this conversation is quite civil, why is it that a simple rule cannot be followed? No politics please. It's not hard. I understand the desire to rant, but type it out, get your rant out and then delete it. This is not the place. Pardon me if my little "rant" has gone to far, but I thought it came more under the description , current affairs & world news, & even philosophical, rather than " Party" political , while my language was a bit descriptive it was not abusive or foul, but apologies if I have tread into forbidden territory, most media is inflammatory "rant" these days unfortunately, it is the language of discourse of the press. Again it is probably a cultural difference. Please feel free to delete the thread editor.
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Post by crapgame on Jul 8, 2016 12:33:51 GMT -5
Gentleman... while I appreciate this conversation is quite civil, why is it that a simple rule cannot be followed? No politics please. It's not hard. I understand the desire to rant, but type it out, get your rant out and then delete it. This is not the place. HEAR HEAR!!
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Post by Motto on Jul 8, 2016 13:34:36 GMT -5
Excuse me gentlemen , am I reading this correctly, is it zero tolerance , a clash of personalities or my posts are not politically correct for this private forum , it seems the smoke haze is clearing , is not my apology acceptable ? I would like to clear the air rather than cause ill will, am I over posting ? Or is it the national difference, can we be plain gentlemen please ?
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Post by framitz on Jul 8, 2016 14:56:59 GMT -5
It is really zero tolerance. This is the midst of a narrow bitter election season people are sensitive. Fellowship religion and politics are social fire and other than the governments attitude about tobacco we believe that social peace and politics don't mix. Also religion is very sensitive. Best wishes on other topics. Shel
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Post by Motto on Jul 8, 2016 15:21:17 GMT -5
You are good , busy nest building or retired family folk, I am old fashioned in my way about settling differences, in a shake if the hand or an apology, but I will love you & leave you , guys & gals . I enjoyed the little party while it lasted, do not be so bothered about the news , media etc, so much , relax with the true spirit of the pipe, when you can , I am out of the rat race, to some extant , I fight my own corner pilgrims with the way I have been made, for good or for ill. We all need a port where we can anchor , to escape the storms. But most folk have lost the anchor , and Babel rules. Peace friends
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