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Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 4, 2018 19:50:14 GMT -5
I'm usually pretty careful with lighting my pipes. I keep the flame above the tobacco, trying not to scorch anything. I use plain old Bic lighters. Still... The rim on the stem side of the bowl, on almost every one of my pipes, has not only darkening, but slight char on at least one. I can't figure it out. Is it because the draft hole tends to heat up that side of the bowl? Anyone else experience this?
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 4, 2018 20:10:12 GMT -5
My experience is that comes from accidently tilting the pipe or your neck down or forward while lighting. It is easier to see what you are doing, but then the flame and heat from your lighter flame rises across the back side of the rim.
I had the same problem, but now 1) I consciously tilt my pipe the slightly up when lighting and 2) switched to a IM Corona Old Boy Lighter. The Old Boy gives me better control and a smaller flame.
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Post by stilllernin on Sept 4, 2018 20:10:41 GMT -5
Tilt the pipe it helps.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 4, 2018 20:14:28 GMT -5
My experience is that comes from accidently tilting the pipe or your neck down or forward while lighting. It is easier to see what you are doing, but then the flame and heat from your lighter flame rises across the back side of the rim. I had the same problem, but now 1) I consciously tilt my pipe the slightly up when lighting and 2) switched to a IM Corona Old Boy Lighter. The Old Boy gives me better control and a smaller flame. Maybe I need to try an actual pipe lighter. I figured the mechanics of having the Bic practically upside down would imitate the sideways flame, but maybe not. Yes, I do tilt it to see what I'm doing. Maybe I'll try wooden matches too.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Sept 4, 2018 20:16:39 GMT -5
Spit and a soft cloth should clean this off...I've heard.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 4, 2018 20:18:10 GMT -5
Wooden matches are my preferred lighting method. #2 is a weird lighter I found on amazon. It takes zippo fluid (I only use the black can) and has its wick cut short so I get a small flame.
A small soft flame is more easily controlled.
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 4, 2018 20:19:01 GMT -5
Spit and a soft cloth should clean this off...I've heard. If it is real bad, I have found some undiluted Murphy's Oil Soap on a soft cloth or very soft bristle toothbrush will work. You have to make sure not to get any in the bowl and will need to buff a little after everything is dry. I used this method on quite a few abused flea market "estates" I've picked up over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:23:34 GMT -5
I only stuff my pipes with tobacco 3/4 of the chamber...never to the top of the rim. After 50 years of smoking a pipe not one of my pipe rims have any slight scorch marks. My grandfather used his right pointer finger...wet with his saliva and wet the rim of his pipes. Never had any scorching as well.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 4, 2018 20:30:27 GMT -5
I only stuff my pipes with tobacco 3/4 of the chamber...never to the top of the rim. After 50 years of smoking a pipe not one of my pipe rims have any slight scorch marks. My grandfather used his right pointer finger...wet with his saliva and wet the rim of his pipes. Never had any scorching as well. that's the thing - I've seen you post this several times, so I started doing it, but it hasn't made a difference. I'll switch to matches first, and see if that helps.
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Post by flyinmanatee on Sept 4, 2018 20:30:44 GMT -5
Probably a noob move but lately I have been wetting the tip of my finger with spit and very lightly running it over the rim before lighting.
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Post by flyinmanatee on Sept 4, 2018 20:32:15 GMT -5
Probably a noob move but lately I have been wetting the tip of my finger with spit and very lightly running it over the rim before lighting. Ahh coyote beat me to the punch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:32:59 GMT -5
I only stuff my pipes with tobacco 3/4 of the chamber...never to the top of the rim. After 50 years of smoking a pipe not one of my pipe rims have any slight scorch marks. My grandfather used his right pointer finger...wet with his saliva and wet the rim of his pipes. Never had any scorching as well. that's the thing - I've seen you post this several times, so I started doing it, but it hasn't made a difference. I'll switch to matches first, and see if that helps. Matches work well with no wind. If outside and lightning a pipe,it’s done in the garage...completely out of any slight breeze.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:33:48 GMT -5
There are work horse pipes and collection pipes. Most of my collection pipes are history now. I use Nivea Cream on my working pipes to break up carbon build up on the rim. A good over night soaking will do the trick.
There's not much way to keep them pristine if you smoke them on a regular basis. Wear it like a badge of courage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:34:21 GMT -5
Probably a noob move but lately I have been wetting the tip of my finger with spit and very lightly running it over the rim before lighting. Good move for a newbie👍👍👍
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Post by monbla256 on Sept 4, 2018 20:35:05 GMT -5
All my rims are black and scorched, none of the bowls are shiny merely the soft patina of nose oil and the bits all have some oxidation. They are in terrible shape but they ALL smoke like the proverbial dream !! Guess I'll have to leave the forum as my pipes don't fit the esthetic norm here !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 20:36:47 GMT -5
All my rims are black and scorched, none of the bowls are shiny merely the soft patina of nose oil and the bits all have some oxidation. They are in terrible shape but they ALL smoke like the proverbial dream !! Guess I'll have to leave the forum as my pipes don't fit the esthetic norm here ! Michael, nothing wrong with your pipes, they smoke great for you....that’s all that matters👍👍
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Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 4, 2018 20:38:35 GMT -5
All my rims are black and scorched, none of the bowls are shiny merely the soft patina of nose oil and the bits all have some oxidation. They are in terrible shape but they ALL smoke like the proverbial dream !! Guess I'll have to leave the forum as my pipes don't fit the esthetic norm here ! I'm just worried that the bowl will eventually crack, or something. Form follows function most of the time, as far as I'm concerned. But, I also like to keep my stuff in good working condition, hence my post.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Sept 4, 2018 20:55:26 GMT -5
All my rims are black and scorched, none of the bowls are shiny merely the soft patina of nose oil and the bits all have some oxidation. They are in terrible shape but they ALL smoke like the proverbial dream !! Guess I'll have to leave the forum as my pipes don't fit the esthetic norm here ! I'm just worried that the bowl will eventually crack, or something. Form follows function most of the time, as far as I'm concerned. But, I also like to keep my stuff in good working condition, hence my post. Lighting your pipe is unlikely to crack it. You would have to use one of those blow torch types of lighters to cause any serious damage. Smoking your pipe hot is more likely to cause cracks to form in the chamber walls. Some darkening is inevitable, but not charring. To avoid charring, apply a bit o spit around the rim before firing up. That gives you a little more time to light up. Don't pack your bowl to the top. Leave about 1/4 inch between the top of your pack and the rim. Keep your lighter a good 1/2" above the rim when lighting, moving the flame around, and don't keep the flame going for more than a few seconds. If you need to redo the light, apply some spit and try again. Some smokers leave the carbon build up on the rim as an insulator. I'm not one of them. To clean off the carbon gunk, either use spit and a rag, which will dissolve the gunk in minutes, or cold black coffee and a rag, which will also dissolve the gunk in minutes. Saliva may actually remove a little of the stain at the rim, but I haven't experienced that with my pipes.
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Post by trailboss on Sept 4, 2018 21:13:17 GMT -5
If you are returning an estate pipe, Everclear really does a great job of removing the char and soot...dab a cloth and buff it out.
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Post by beardedmi on Sept 4, 2018 21:13:53 GMT -5
I use a tiny bit of spit and a linen cloth that is dedicated to burnishing pipes. It doesn't remove enough of the finish to ever be noticeable and the longer you use the same cloth the better it works. Its also great for taking the lighest oxidation off of cumberland and bringing a high shine back to duller stems. It literally takes me a minute to bring a great shine back to any one pipe. A pipemaker friend of mine gives these linen napkins to people that commission shiny pipes from him and he showed me the tricks that he uses on his own personal pipes.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 4, 2018 21:22:26 GMT -5
I only stuff my pipes with tobacco 3/4 of the chamber...never to the top of the rim. After 50 years of smoking a pipe not one of my pipe rims have any slight scorch marks. My grandfather used his right pointer finger...wet with his saliva and wet the rim of his pipes. Never had any scorching as well. I think most rim darkening comes from tars accumulating on the rim, not from actual scorching/charring. Low fill levels preventing damage would be consistent with that hypothesis.
Many of my pipes have 360 degree "lava" on the rim, thanks to the use of windcaps.
Fortunately, unlike actual scorching or charring, you can clean lava off of a pipe rim. It takes some elbow grease but it does go away.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 22:22:29 GMT -5
I only stuff my pipes with tobacco 3/4 of the chamber...never to the top of the rim. After 50 years of smoking a pipe not one of my pipe rims have any slight scorch marks. My grandfather used his right pointer finger...wet with his saliva and wet the rim of his pipes. Never had any scorching as well. I think most rim darkening comes from tars accumulating on the rim, not from actual scorching/charring. Low fill levels preventing damage would be consistent with that hypothesis.
Many of my pipes have 360 degree "lava" on the rim, thanks to the use of windcaps.
Fortunately, unlike actual scorching or charring, you can clean lava off of a pipe rim. It takes some elbow grease but it does go away.
Tar is normal and fairly easy to remove. My grandfather’s saliva trick worked well for him for over 65 years of pipe smoking. As I’ve posted prior, after each use of my briars I wipe down with a microfiber cloth with bee’s wax and mineral oil mixture. That’s why I don’t even get a tar build up. Wipes clean every time. If you hold the flame to close to the briar that’s when you can scorch or burn the briar. I don’t hold the flame long in one spot either. Wether it’s your saliva, Nivea cream or try my method of bee’s wax and mineral oil your briars will clean up easy without ever burning the briar. Some pipe smokers don’t worry about a scorched rim as long as they smoke well. Every pipe smoker has their own way which works best for them.
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 4, 2018 23:18:48 GMT -5
Use matches.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 5, 2018 5:53:21 GMT -5
I'm late to the party, but I'd second this (and the others who have suggested this). I find I have so much more control of the flame using matches. It's a smaller flame too so you can keep it away from the tin easier. For me, thankfully, I have a garage where I can light up if it's windy. Mid way through the bowl, if I need a relight, I use the bowl to shelter the match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 7:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by johnlawitzke on Sept 6, 2018 19:50:04 GMT -5
Lighting your pipe is unlikely to crack it. You would have to use one of those blow torch types of lighters to cause any serious damage. Smoking your pipe hot is more likely to cause cracks to form in the chamber walls. Some darkening is inevitable, but not charring. Actually, you don’t need a torch lighter to cause serious damage to a pipe. You can do it with a soft flame lighter and enough repetitions... I know someone in one of my pipe clubs who is a purely a pipe smoker and doesn’t care about the condition of his pipes as long as they burn tobacco. He uses a Bic to light his pipes. He holds the Bic horizontally in his right hand and the flame crosses over the right front portion of his rims. He has one pipe that he has smoked so many times that there is now a U shaped divot burnt out down out of the bowl wall about 1/3 the height of the bowl from where he consistently crosses the rim with his flame.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:54:30 GMT -5
Lighting your pipe is unlikely to crack it. You would have to use one of those blow torch types of lighters to cause any serious damage. Smoking your pipe hot is more likely to cause cracks to form in the chamber walls. Some darkening is inevitable, but not charring. Actually, you don’t need a torch lighter to cause serious damage to a pipe. You can do it with a soft flame lighter and enough repetitions... I know someone in one of my pipe clubs who is a purely a pipe smoker and doesn’t care about the condition of his pipes as long as they burn tobacco. He uses a Bic to light his pipes. He holds the Bic horizontally in his right hand and the flame crosses over the right front portion of his rims. He has one pipe that he has smoked so many times that there is now a U shaped divot burnt out down out of the bowl wall about 1/3 the height of the bowl from where he consistently crosses the rim with his flame. Every pipe smoker has their way of enjoying a pipe, that’s what makes this an “ individual “ hobby 👌
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 6, 2018 20:00:55 GMT -5
Use matches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 20:02:08 GMT -5
Definitely, when possible 👍👍
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Post by johnlawitzke on Sept 6, 2018 20:09:07 GMT -5
Actually, you don’t need a torch lighter to cause serious damage to a pipe. You can do it with a soft flame lighter and enough repetitions... I know someone in one of my pipe clubs who is a purely a pipe smoker and doesn’t care about the condition of his pipes as long as they burn tobacco. He uses a Bic to light his pipes. He holds the Bic horizontally in his right hand and the flame crosses over the right front portion of his rims. He has one pipe that he has smoked so many times that there is now a U shaped divot burnt out down out of the bowl wall about 1/3 the height of the bowl from where he consistently crosses the rim with his flame. Every pipe smoker has their way of enjoying a pipe, that’s what makes this an “ individual “ hobby 👌 Definitely. My father-in-law would chew on his stems and shred them. He’d keep smoking the shredded stem more times a day than JimInks until the pipe burnt out. My wife and I once bought him a nice pipe. He keep smoking whatever shredded stem pipe he had at the time. Pipe smokers love what they love.
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