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Post by stogiebear on Sept 9, 2018 19:51:55 GMT -5
I recently got this Savinelli Grand Prix: imgur.com/a/YaPG0Bm for a steal on eBay and I love it, except that it has a stupid replacement stem with a nonremovable stinger. I’d love to get a better stem fit for it. Who should I contact about that? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 19:56:07 GMT -5
I recently got this Savinelli Grand Prix: imgur.com/a/YaPG0Bm for a steal on eBay and I love it, except that it has a stupid replacement stem with a nonremovable stinger. I’d love to get a better stem fit for it. Who should I contact about that? I would personally go to Tim West, fine pipe-maker and repairman. TIM WEST |
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Post by stogiebear on Sept 9, 2018 20:22:29 GMT -5
I recently got this Savinelli Grand Prix: imgur.com/a/YaPG0Bm for a steal on eBay and I love it, except that it has a stupid replacement stem with a nonremovable stinger. I’d love to get a better stem fit for it. Who should I contact about that? I would personally go to Tim West, fine pipe-maker and repairman. TIM WESTThanks! Stupid question: does hard rubber mean vulcanite? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 20:29:00 GMT -5
I would personally go to Tim West, fine pipe-maker and repairman. TIM WESTThanks! Stupid question: does hard rubber mean vulcanite? Yes sir! Is that stamped on the stem? If so it may be a pretty old stem.
Oh! Never mind, its on Tim's site as to which type of stem preferred.
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 9, 2018 20:31:18 GMT -5
I recently got this Savinelli Grand Prix: imgur.com/a/YaPG0Bm for a steal on eBay and I love it, except that it has a stupid replacement stem with a nonremovable stinger. I’d love to get a better stem fit for it. Who should I contact about that? I would personally go to Tim West, fine pipe-maker and repairman. TIM WEST+1 for Tim West. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 9, 2018 20:36:04 GMT -5
I would personally go to Tim West, fine pipe-maker and repairman. TIM WESTThanks! Stupid question: does hard rubber mean vulcanite? ...as I understand it, "Vulcanizing" is a process on rubber. There is an element referred to as "Vulcanite", that is a somewhat rare mineral... it was discovered in 1961... but I'm not gonna go on about it... people here like to refer to stems as "Vulcanite"... so be it... who am I to argue? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 20:41:30 GMT -5
Yes, apparently there are two uses of the word, just depends on which your talking about. vul·can·ite ˈvəlkəˌnīt/ noun noun: vulcanite hard black vulcanized rubber.
We also use Ebonite and it is the same thing but, its actually a brand name.
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 9, 2018 20:49:51 GMT -5
As mentioned above Tim at J.H. Lowe is a great option. If you want an original Savinelli stem you can send it to Laudisi. If they have one on hand it is $35. If not they will send to the Savinelli Factory to have one made. $15 + cost of stem. Here is the link with the relevant information.The stem that you have on there looks pretty close to the original actually. I have the same shape Grand Prix except in ostrich skin instead of leather. It is the same style stem and the fishtail looks pretty good. Are you sure there isn't a faint crown stamp that might have been worn away by over aggressive sanding or buffing? If it were my pipe, I would either a) just carefully heat the tenon end and pull out the stinger b) replace the entire tenon with a delrin or c) say screw and smoke it as it is. EDIT: I just pulled my pipe out of the drawer and I am pretty sure yours is the original stem. Someone must have pulled the tube from mine. It has the exact same step at the end of the tenon. When I got mine it gurgles a bit so I counterbored the end of the tenon for smoother airflow. It is one of my favorite pipes. Just heat it up and pull it out if you don't like the tube. |
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Post by stogiebear on Sept 9, 2018 21:03:35 GMT -5
As mentioned above Tim at J.H. Lowe is a great option. If you want an original Savinelli stem you can send it to Laudisi. If they have one on hand it is $35. If not they will send to the Savinelli Factory to have one made. $15 + cost of stem. Here is the link with the relevant information.The stem that you have on there looks pretty close to the original actually. I have the same shape Grand Prix except in ostrich skin instead of leather. It is the same style stem and the fishtail looks pretty good. Are you sure there isn't a faint crown stamp that might have been worn away by over aggressive sanding or buffing? If it were my pipe, I would either a) just carefully heat the tenon end and pull out the stinger b) replace the entire tenon with a delrin or c) say screw and smoke it as it is. EDIT: I just pulled my pipe out of the drawer and I am pretty sure yours is the original stem. Someone must have pulled the tube from mine. It has the exact same step at the end of the tenon. When I got mine it gurgles a bit so I counterbored the end of the tenon for smoother airflow. It is one of my favorite pipes. Just heat it up and pull it out if you don't like the tube. Really? I never saw a Savinelli stinger before. The stem has no trace of a marking. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 21:10:20 GMT -5
Tim West does excellent restorations, also known for making some outstanding stems. Last year he made a new stem for a Yello-Bole I’ve owned since 1972. He even cleaned the briar and gave it a good buffing....I’d definitely use him again👍👍
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 9, 2018 23:12:38 GMT -5
I will take a photo tomorrow after work and we can compare stems. (That sounds dirty!)
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 9, 2018 23:14:41 GMT -5
I don't know about Tim West's hand-cut stems, but I can vouch for the quality of his stems cut from blanks.
Dude does careful work.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 10, 2018 0:26:49 GMT -5
It dawns on me that we have converged on a single source. Let me provide an alternative: Mike Myers @ Walker Pipe Repair.
I've sent pipes to him before, and his attention to detail is considerable. I was thrilled with the outcome.
I haven't ordered a hand-cut stem from Mike, yet, but given his repair work, I think if I need a hand-cut stem, he might be my go-to.
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 10, 2018 0:50:47 GMT -5
It dawns on me that we have converged on a single source. Let me provide an alternative: Mike Myers @ Walker Pipe Repair. I've sent pipes to him before, and his attention to detail is considerable. I was thrilled with the outcome. I haven't ordered a hand-cut stem from Mike, yet, but given his repair work, I think if I need a hand-cut stem, he might be my go-to. ...another reliable source... outstanding work... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 4:30:05 GMT -5
It dawns on me that we have converged on a single source. Let me provide an alternative: Mike Myers @ Walker Pipe Repair. I've sent pipes to him before, and his attention to detail is considerable. I was thrilled with the outcome. I haven't ordered a hand-cut stem from Mike, yet, but given his repair work, I think if I need a hand-cut stem, he might be my go-to. I’d also trust him with any of my pipes, highly recommend as well👍👍 |
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 10, 2018 6:05:24 GMT -5
Does our own slowroll not do a fine job of stems too? |
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Post by joeman on Sept 10, 2018 9:19:00 GMT -5
If it were my pipe, I would a) just carefully heat the tenon end and pull out the stinger b) replace the entire tenon with a delrin or c) say screw and smoke it as it is. Just heat it up and pull it out if you don't like the tube. Some good suggestions for getting a stem made...but I agree with the professor. The stinger is not permanent. It's just very firmly in place. If you can't get it out, one of us will happily do it for you. |
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 10, 2018 10:22:01 GMT -5
  Looking up the airway I actually see a step where the tube was pulled out. I may go in with a taper drill and smooth it a bit. But it isn't causing problems at all. I really like the Grand Prix line. They can be had for pretty cheap and the 3 I own are all fantastic smokers. |
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Post by stogiebear on Sept 10, 2018 10:33:09 GMT -5
Looking up the airway I actually see a step where the tube was pulled out. I may go in with a taper drill and smooth it a bit. But it isn't causing problems at all. I really like the Grand Prix line. They can be had for pretty cheap and the 3 I own are all fantastic smokers. That’s interesting. So I think that is the same stem, only mine has the logo polished off. (Somebody did an extensive restoration and even precarbed the bowl.) How would you recommend heating the stem to loosen the stinger? Hot water? |
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 10, 2018 11:25:24 GMT -5
Even easier. Just hold the end of the tube/stinger in a pair of pliers. Heat the tube with a flame (candle, torch, stove) or heat gun while pulling on the bit. The stinger is a good conductor of heat and the vulvanite a good insulator. It will just locally soften the rubber where it is in contact with the tube. Be careful to not bring the heat too close to the tenon or else you could burn it.
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Post by stogiebear on Sept 12, 2018 11:34:49 GMT -5
Even easier. Just hold the end of the tube/stinger in a pair of pliers. Heat the tube with a flame (candle, torch, stove) or heat gun while pulling on the bit. The stinger is a good conductor of heat and the vulvanite a good insulator. It will just locally soften the rubber where it is in contact with the tube. Be careful to not bring the heat too close to the tenon or else you could burn it. I tried it and it worked perfectly. Thank you! |
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Post by joeman on Sept 12, 2018 12:08:49 GMT -5
There you go! We don't need no stinkin' new stems here! Congrats.
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Post by rmb on Sept 12, 2018 12:12:56 GMT -5
I have at least 3 pipes that need a new stem, so thanks for the info everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 12:22:16 GMT -5
Even easier. Just hold the end of the tube/stinger in a pair of pliers. Heat the tube with a flame (candle, torch, stove) or heat gun while pulling on the bit. The stinger is a good conductor of heat and the vulvanite a good insulator. It will just locally soften the rubber where it is in contact with the tube. Be careful to not bring the heat too close to the tenon or else you could burn it. I tried it and it worked perfectly. Thank you! Glad your were able to remove the tube....now as good as new👍👍 |
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