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Post by libertysmoke on Feb 10, 2019 18:27:37 GMT -5
How about the 'Rubino' &/or the 'Vittoria' line by Rossi ?
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Post by flyinmanatee on Feb 10, 2019 22:24:12 GMT -5
Well we all know of Edwards pipes.They appear in antique stores, pipe lots and individual auctions. But amongst their various lines there are the pipes stamped Handmade. Typically Edward's Handmade pipes are freehands (made to compete with the Danish invasion in the 1960-80s). One can find really odd shapes to the inspired, including pipes that followed more traditional forms (not as common). They are made of Algerian briar, oil cured and use only natural finishes. A number of Edward's Handmade line of pipes were also fairly expensive back in the day. PS American pipe carver Randy Wiley received his start at Edwards. If you see the Wiley feather, chances are Wiley carved it (Not to say all his Edwards creations had the feather.). Hey what does the "mushroom" stamp mean that are on some Edwards. Can't remember for the life of me or where I read it. Also is it safe to assume if it's French era it will be marked "France"? Thanks.
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Post by qmechanics on Feb 11, 2019 1:52:15 GMT -5
Well we all know of Edwards pipes.They appear in antique stores, pipe lots and individual auctions. But amongst their various lines there are the pipes stamped Handmade. Typically Edward's Handmade pipes are freehands (made to compete with the Danish invasion in the 1960-80s). One can find really odd shapes to the inspired, including pipes that followed more traditional forms (not as common). They are made of Algerian briar, oil cured and use only natural finishes. A number of Edward's Handmade line of pipes were also fairly expensive back in the day. PS American pipe carver Randy Wiley received his start at Edwards. If you see the Wiley feather, chances are Wiley carved it (Not to say all his Edwards creations had the feather.). Hey what does the "mushroom" stamp mean that are on some Edwards. Can't remember for the life of me or where I read it. Also is it safe to assume if it's French era it will be marked "France"? Thanks. From what I recall the French made Edwards have the word "France" on the stem. Looking around, I found a couple of references confirming my memories. I make no claims as to whether or not the stem "France" stamp, design, placement or position are universal to all French made Edward's pipes. There is also the possibility that over the years the mark could have been wiped off the stem. In the link below you will find a good example of the stamp. rebornpipes.com/tag/edwards-algerian-briar-pipes/As to the symbol, I will need to see a picture. PS You might want to delete the second (duplicate) post.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 11, 2019 11:08:15 GMT -5
I guess I would avoid those companies as well. If one's pipe is infected, the very least one can do is visit a pipe clinic.😁 That's what the pipe cleaner test is for.
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Post by robd on Feb 13, 2019 11:34:22 GMT -5
Tilsheads (as opposed to Upshalls with the Upshall name and Tilshead place of origin) . .. . Peterson's Irish Seconds many have fills but are great smokers and great values.
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Post by joeman on Apr 17, 2019 13:30:20 GMT -5
Reviving this "almost old" thread, because of "Kaywoodie Handmade" being mentioned on a different string...but seems this comment is more appropriate here.
There is one 'hidden gem' of a line hidden within a household name that most guys are not familiar with...and that's the "Unique" handmade pipes by Dr. Grabow. These were made in 1959/1960, and only 500 were made. These were reserved only for those who visited the factory personally...so they were sold right in the lobby...none sold in stores / shops. When they surface today, they command very respectable prices...many times the price of a typical estate Grabow. They used very large blocks of very nicely grained aged briar for these, and each one was...well...unique...as the name says. I don't know when Kaywoodie's Handmades were produced...but since there has been a lot of competition there over the years...I wondered if the timing was similar. I might have to show the Uniques I was fortunate enough to snag...they are beauties.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 13:39:13 GMT -5
They can go by many different brand names, but most old briar marked Algerian Briar are good smokers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -5
Dr Plumb: many share shape/numbers with GBD twins.
Wild Honey: Sasieni
Bee Hive Bee Hive Co. : Quality English pipes with little available information.
Duncan: Fine English pipes.
Savory's Argyll: English - Dunhill seconds and uniformly good and reasonably priced.
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Post by peteguy on Apr 17, 2019 17:37:20 GMT -5
Lots of angles to look at this question from. Smoke wise, cost wise, beauty wise, etc. Most 2nds from big name Co's are a great value cost wise. ........ Considering the above comments, I am sure folks will benefit from even a loose interpretation of the threads intended purpose. So what are your hidden gems? Let's play. House pipes is what I call them. i have seen many and they are on ebay all the time. They are / were made for a tobacco shop or retailer. I have seen some obscure names of shops I have never even heard of that I could have sworn the pipe was as good as any of the popular companies and were probably made by them anyway. This one was made for Grant's pipe shop in San Fran:
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Post by stone on Apr 18, 2019 12:54:46 GMT -5
Anything with 14k gold catches the eye
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Post by captblack on Apr 18, 2019 13:37:57 GMT -5
Reviving this "almost old" thread, because of "Kaywoodie Handmade" being mentioned on a different string...but seems this comment is more appropriate here. That was me - and in addition to the Kaywoodie handmade pipes (which are hidden gems and worth the $150-$250), Kaywoodie also has a line called Virgin Grain that is made from 50 year old briar and retails for less than $100.00 (usually). The Grabow Uniques are very cool as well. I also like a brand called Talamona. It was a lesser expensive Italian brand named after the city that went out of production. Paolo Croci (of Pipa Croci) picked up the brand name and has been producing some excellent pipes under the Talamona brand name. They are kind of hard to find in the US but worth an order from Europe.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Apr 19, 2019 1:36:10 GMT -5
Savory's Argyll: English - Dunhill seconds and uniformly good and reasonably priced. Savory's was a pipe retailer purchased by Dunhill in the 1930s. The Savory's-branded pipes were made in the Parker-Hardcastle factory, and they definitely weren't "second" to Parker. You're not going to find flaws and putty on them the way you might on a Hardcastle.
Near as I can tell, a Savory's-branded pipe is every bit as good as its Parker counterpart, but it will sell for 1/3 to 1/2 as much on eBay.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Apr 19, 2019 1:38:38 GMT -5
........ Considering the above comments, I am sure folks will benefit from even a loose interpretation of the threads intended purpose. So what are your hidden gems? Let's play. House pipes is what I call them. i have seen many and they are on ebay all the time. They are / were made for a tobacco shop or retailer. I have seen some obscure names of shops I have never even heard of that I could have sworn the pipe was as good as any of the popular companies and were probably made by them anyway. This one was made for Grant's pipe shop in San Fran: Tinder Box sold a huge number of "Made in England" pipes from the various Cadogan factories -- Orlik, Comoy's, Loewe, etc A "Tinder Box" branded pipe with the "London, England" stamp sells for a tiny fraction of what it would with a Comoy's stamp, despite being a substantially similar product sold in the same price bracket.
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 13:57:11 GMT -5
Indeed I have several old Tinder Box Made in England pipes that I bought at Tinder Box in the 70's. I've had to clean them up recently but they are very good smokers and very good quality.
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 14:02:12 GMT -5
Savory's Argyll: English - Dunhill seconds and uniformly good and reasonably priced. Savory's was a pipe retailer purchased by Dunhill in the 1930s. The Savory's-branded pipes were made in the Parker-Hardcastle factory, and they definitely weren't "second" to Parker. You're not going to find flaws and putty on them the way you might on a Hardcastle.
Near as I can tell, a Savory's-branded pipe is every bit as good as its Parker counterpart, but it will sell for 1/3 to 1/2 as much on eBay.
I don't know how Dunhill operated in the 30's, but I heard on a online interview that at least post war there were no Dunhill seconds. Having seconds would diminish the brand value. If there were flaws discovered during manufacture the pipe was either destroyed or sold in lots to other companies to do what they wanted with. But Dunhill themselves would not be associated with seconds. I can't speak to the truth of this, but did hear it from a 'English pipe community expert'. Probably if I recall correctly a pipe maker from another English brand.
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 20, 2019 15:12:36 GMT -5
"London Castle" pipes are not seconds, but they were a very exclusive brand sold in only one store in London back in the day... they can be had (if you can find one) for a song nowadays.
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 15:53:46 GMT -5
"London Castle" pipes are not seconds, but they were a very exclusive brand sold in only one store in London back in the day... they can be had (if you can find one) for a song nowadays. Based on Ppedia they (London Castle) were quite exclusive. 1919 - 1999. Founded in 1919, it was originally known as Davies & Huybrecht. One of the smallest and most obscure of the older British pipe makers. Their specialty was the making of pipes with flawless wood in traditional British shapes from Algerian briar. Their pipes were available only from Smith's Snuff Shop in London. Each pipe was offered without the stem and the customer then specified the stem he wanted. Historical Note: British Prime Minister, ( 1964-1970, 1974- 1976), Sir Harold Wilson smoked mainly G.Huybrecht pipes (Zulu shape was his favorite) Fascinating.These are quite rare and a true collector's item. If you have one, hold on to it.
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