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Post by qmechanics on Sept 10, 2018 9:11:01 GMT -5
Hi
One pipe line that comes to mind is the gold banded Weber Deep Grain line. I remember reading somewhere that at one time they sold for the same price as the Dunhill Shell pipes. Deep Grain's are also inexpensive to purchase today.
PS I believe GBD offered a nice range of pipes. Still among their offerings, the Unique line stands out. The problem is I am not sure GBD Unique's can be considered as a hidden gem. They still garner allot of attention as seen by the prices they sell for to this day.
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Post by papipeguy on Sept 10, 2018 11:43:06 GMT -5
There are many gems in the estate market, especially the seconds from the big names. GBD's City de Luxe and Digby to name two.
I think most of us can name several under-the-radar makers of new pipes as well. Mastro Beraldi come to mind.
An interesting and thought provoking post.
Thanks for introducing the topic.
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Post by professorthroway on Sept 10, 2018 11:44:16 GMT -5
I really like estate Savinelli Estellas. They started out as potential autographs but had some cosmetic flaws and received a deep rustication. They were carved from some of Sav's oldest briar at the time (1970) and with the deep rustication makes them very lightweight for their size. The rustication looks fantastic and is very distinctive, You can pick them up a lot cheaper than even the lower grades the autograph line (4's and 5's).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 12:56:44 GMT -5
GBD’s & BBB seconds are excellent smokers. Also any of the old Edward’s seconds👍👍👍
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Post by monbla256 on Sept 10, 2018 13:05:14 GMT -5
Another marque you may want to look at are the Mountbattens. They were made by the apprentices at Charatan and were made in the same style as their standard lines from the same briar as the Charatan pipes . They were NOT SECONDS but first grade pipes from the Charatan firm. They smoke the same as Charatans and the relief grains, blasted, pipes were some very nice blasts. I have 5 of them and am always looking for more !  |
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Post by slomo on Sept 10, 2018 13:21:37 GMT -5
I have seen Mountbattens and will attest to their value. My personal preference is Old England, a second line from Sasieni. Very nice pipes.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 10, 2018 13:53:34 GMT -5
I have a thing for Estate Stanwells. Not that I have any, but I think they're beautiful. Not sure it's a hidden gem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 14:01:58 GMT -5
The Stanwell pipes that were made in Denmark are superb smokers. The Stanwell pipes that are being made in Italy now are still of high quality and craftsmanship......I own 2 made in Italy and they are excellent smoking pipes 👌👍👍
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Post by peteguy on Sept 10, 2018 18:07:52 GMT -5
Lots of angles to look at this question from. Smoke wise, cost wise, beauty wise, etc. Most 2nds from big name Co's are a great value cost wise.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 10, 2018 19:34:33 GMT -5
Another marque you may want to look at are the Mountbattens. They were made by the apprentices at Charatan and were made in the same style as their standard lines from the same briar as the Charatan pipes . They were NOT SECONDS but first grade pipes from the Charatan firm. They smoke the same as Charatans and the relief grains, blasted, pipes were some very nice blasts. I have 5 of them and am always looking for more !
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Post by qmechanics on Sept 10, 2018 23:48:17 GMT -5
Lots of angles to look at this question from. Smoke wise, cost wise, beauty wise, etc. Most 2nds from big name Co's are a great value cost wise. Yes the question is a bit open and that is fine. I have no problem with folks writing about their hidden gems of all stripes. The original intent was to name hidden (less commonly known) pipe lines that were designed to be somewhat unique, special (in terms of workmanship,quality, finish, good smokers etc.) compared to their brothers in a given pipe company; a line or lines that can play with the big boys that might be considered out of the ordinary for the company. I was hoping my two examples would make things clearer. Both Weber Deep Grain and the GBD unique were the highest expression of each company at one time.They attempted to compete with pipes typically above the range of their other lines etc. (The issue I had with naming the GBD Unique pipes as an example, is can it be considered "hidden"?). There are others like the rare Kaywoodie handmade Danish style freehands. Considering the above comments, I am sure folks will benefit from even a loose interpretation of the threads intended purpose. So what are your hidden gems? |
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Post by qmechanics on Sept 24, 2018 22:22:14 GMT -5
Still hoping others might chime in, even if it means a honey hole might get tapped.😀
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Post by zambini on Sept 25, 2018 0:36:55 GMT -5
qmechanics, I guess its an opportunity to look for through pipe reference sites.
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Post by trailboss on Sept 25, 2018 1:33:40 GMT -5
I have a pipe stamped Old England London Made in all caps...a tremendously wonderful smoking pipe if I had to rid myself of every pipe but one, this would be it.  |
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Post by qmechanics on Sept 25, 2018 2:20:56 GMT -5
qmechanics, I guess its an opportunity to look for through pipe reference sites. Yes I agree and have done quite a number of searches in the past. Today, I have more pipes than I really need. So I did not start this thread with an eye towards purchase but in the hope that others might benefit. |
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Post by qmechanics on Jan 21, 2019 3:07:29 GMT -5
Well we all know of Edwards pipes.They appear in antique stores, pipe lots and individual auctions. But amongst their various lines there are the pipes stamped Handmade. Typically Edward's Handmade pipes are freehands (made to compete with the Danish invasion in the 1960-80s). One can find really odd shapes to the inspired, including pipes that followed more traditional forms (not as common). They are made of Algerian briar, oil cured and use only natural finishes. A number of Edward's Handmade line of pipes were also fairly expensive back in the day.
PS American pipe carver Randy Wiley received his start at Edwards. If you see the Wiley feather, chances are Wiley carved it (Not to say all his Edwards creations had the feather.).
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Post by orley on Jan 21, 2019 7:34:15 GMT -5
One hidden gem I can think of is the Heritage line of pipes made by Kaywoodie. These were flawless pipes made to compete with the high end pipes of the day. Made from the early 1960s to about 1970.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 21, 2019 7:39:05 GMT -5
Another marque you may want to look at are the Mountbattens. They were made by the apprentices at Charatan and were made in the same style as their standard lines from the same briar as the Charatan pipes . They were NOT SECONDS but first grade pipes from the Charatan firm. They smoke the same as Charatans and the relief grains, blasted, pipes were some very nice blasts. I have 5 of them and am always looking for more !
On eBay That Mountbatten Royal Straight Billiard is a beauty...thanks for posting the link. |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jan 21, 2019 7:46:16 GMT -5
Hi One pipe line that comes to mind is the gold banded Weber Deep Grain line. I remember reading somewhere that at one time they sold for the same price as the Dunhill Shell pipes. Deep Grain's are also inexpensive to purchase today. PS I believe GBD offered a nice range of pipes. Still among their offerings, the Unique line stands out. The problem is I am not sure GBD Unique's can be considered as a hidden gem. They still garner allot of attention as seen by the prices they sell for to this day. Agreed the GBD Unique line is a superb line of pipes |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 13:33:24 GMT -5
Love this thread - thanks for bringing it back qmechanics. There's another one on "best bang for the buck" estates somewhere. |
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Post by robd on Feb 10, 2019 14:29:14 GMT -5
I like the older Peterson's Kapruf's, a sandblasted finish.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 10, 2019 14:36:35 GMT -5
Another marque you may want to look at are the Mountbattens. They were made by the apprentices at Charatan and were made in the same style as their standard lines from the same briar as the Charatan pipes . They were NOT SECONDS but first grade pipes from the Charatan firm. They smoke the same as Charatans and the relief grains, blasted, pipes were some very nice blasts. I have 5 of them and am always looking for more ! Michael, you're absolutely right. I have a Mountbatten and it is a beaut. A straight billiard, a lot like a Dunhill Bruyere. Only the pipes from the best apprentices made it to market on the Mountbatten brand. |
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 10, 2019 14:39:41 GMT -5
Another marque you may want to look at are the Mountbattens. They were made by the apprentices at Charatan and were made in the same style as their standard lines from the same briar as the Charatan pipes . They were NOT SECONDS but first grade pipes from the Charatan firm. They smoke the same as Charatans and the relief grains, blasted, pipes were some very nice blasts. I have 5 of them and am always looking for more !
On eBay Looks like that one sold for $60. And per the description, had a replacement stem and some light bumps and dings. Interesting. I have one, almost pristine, with the original Mountbatten vulcanite stem in almost flawless condition. My wife found it in a thrift store for $5. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Feb 10, 2019 14:54:28 GMT -5
I try to avoid "STD pipe companies".
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 10, 2019 16:30:42 GMT -5
Here's a shot of my Mountbatten.  |
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Post by stilllernin on Feb 10, 2019 16:48:21 GMT -5
Manhattan, kaywoodie, and Definetely pipes by lee are well worth your investment.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Feb 10, 2019 16:56:19 GMT -5
Great score, Perry...enjoy it in rude good health.
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Post by qmechanics on Feb 10, 2019 17:30:10 GMT -5
I try to avoid "STD pipe companies". lol Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also standard (std) in this day an age.😁 |
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 10, 2019 17:33:27 GMT -5
I try to avoid "STD pipe companies". lol Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also standard (std) in this day an age.😁 I guess I would avoid those companies as well. |
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Post by qmechanics on Feb 10, 2019 17:38:44 GMT -5
lol Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also standard (std) in this day an age.😁 I guess I would avoid those companies as well. If one's pipe is infected, the very least one can do is visit a pipe clinic.😁 |
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