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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 15, 2018 7:03:12 GMT -5
I am about starting to buy my bulk tobaccos in anticipation of the tobacco apocalypse. Whether it is truly the apocalypse or just another headache is a discussion for another day, but it is better to be prepared, regardless. So, for cellaring bulk blends, I have a question about jar size. I will be using either mason jars or canning jar with the rubber lid (preferred according to a note on G.L. Pease's site). I already use canning jars, but I figure who else would be better to rely upon for tobacco advice? Do you guys, who jar in bulk, use a big jar like a 1 liter/1 quart or a smaller jar? I can see the advantage of using a big jar in that it would be easier to move, store and ultimately be cheaper. But, once it is open, and you pull from it, do you transfer a useable amount to a "ready" jar/container, and leave the remainder for long term storage? If something is lost each time you open it, would it then be better to use smaller jars and avoid that step? Yes, I know I am overthinking it, but it is the way my mind works. Thanks for the advice, and Geaux Tigers (LSU Tigers that is  )!! Not a fan of Auburn and their unused coloring books... |
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 15, 2018 7:26:16 GMT -5
I'm no expert but this is my thinking based on my studies of microbiology and wanting the best care for my investment.
I store my tobacco in wide mouth pint jars. Permanent marker is used on the lid itself for what tobacco it is and the date I put it in there. One of them is marked as the jar to pull from first of which I put that into an 8oz or 4oz jar. That way I'm only ever opening that smaller jar often leaving the pint jar alone. Once the pint jar is used up, I can move to another one and mark it as the one I pull tobacco from to put into smaller jars for smoking.
My reasoning is that if something were to be in the air and get into my tobacco, that one jar will be singled out and not a whole batch in a larger jar like a half gallon one. Everytime it gets opened, thats another chance of contamination. Hence why I also put a small amount from the jar being used into smaller jars I smoke from. But I also dont smoke as much as others so always pulling from a pint jar takes a long time for me to finish.
Its over kill I know and many pipe smokers never have issue just doing whatever they want without caution. To me, jars are cheap, its not much effort and I want to keep my investment. If a blend were to go away this week that I love and am stocked up on so that I can enjoy it ten years from now, I want to make sure its in the best condition possible.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Sept 15, 2018 7:40:20 GMT -5
Do what works for you...don't over think it...supposed to be fun, not work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 7:40:45 GMT -5
Half pint jars worked best for me. It's just like cracking a tin down the road.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 15, 2018 7:46:43 GMT -5
Do what works for you...don't over think it...supposed to be fun, not work. Yeah, that's not the way my mind works. I either do it right the first time, or I worried about it for ever. |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 15, 2018 7:49:35 GMT -5
I'm no expert but this is my thinking based on my studies of microbiology and wanting the best care for my investment. I store my tobacco in wide mouth pint jars. Permanent marker is used on the lid itself for what tobacco it is and the date I put it in there. One of them is marked as the jar to pull from first of which I put that into an 8oz or 4oz jar. That way I'm only ever opening that smaller jar often leaving the pint jar alone. Once the pint jar is used up, I can move to another one and mark it as the one I pull tobacco from to put into smaller jars for smoking. My reasoning is that if something were to be in the air and get into my tobacco, that one jar will be singled out and not a whole batch in a larger jar like a half gallon one. Everytime it gets opened, thats another chance of contamination. Hence why I also put a small amount from the jar being used into smaller jars I smoke from. But I also dont smoke as much as others so always pulling from a pint jar takes a long time for me to finish. Its over kill I know and many pipe smokers never have issue just doing whatever they want without caution. To me, jars are cheap, its not much effort and I want to keep my investment. If a blend were to go away this week that I love and am stocked up on so that I can enjoy it ten years from now, I want to make sure its in the best condition possible. Thanks! That's the advice I needed, and I guess I really just needed confirmation that I wasn't headed down the wrong path by using small mouth jars. I guess I will have to give Cheerwine another try! |
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 15, 2018 8:02:27 GMT -5
I'm no expert but this is my thinking based on my studies of microbiology and wanting the best care for my investment. I store my tobacco in wide mouth pint jars. Permanent marker is used on the lid itself for what tobacco it is and the date I put it in there. One of them is marked as the jar to pull from first of which I put that into an 8oz or 4oz jar. That way I'm only ever opening that smaller jar often leaving the pint jar alone. Once the pint jar is used up, I can move to another one and mark it as the one I pull tobacco from to put into smaller jars for smoking. My reasoning is that if something were to be in the air and get into my tobacco, that one jar will be singled out and not a whole batch in a larger jar like a half gallon one. Everytime it gets opened, thats another chance of contamination. Hence why I also put a small amount from the jar being used into smaller jars I smoke from. But I also dont smoke as much as others so always pulling from a pint jar takes a long time for me to finish. Its over kill I know and many pipe smokers never have issue just doing whatever they want without caution. To me, jars are cheap, its not much effort and I want to keep my investment. If a blend were to go away this week that I love and am stocked up on so that I can enjoy it ten years from now, I want to make sure its in the best condition possible. Thanks! That's the advice I needed, and I guess I really just needed confirmation that I wasn't headed down the wrong path by using small mouth jars. I guess I will have to give Cheerwine another try! lol Well you like what you like. I even like Moxie but to many, thats a big NO as a drink choice. I gotta try this Laphroaig though. I'm also no expert. I just know that with my studies, I think more about what could be floating in the environment at any given time. I can be a bit OCD so I'd rather take precautions and be organized. Wide mouth is just easier to work with too. |
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 15, 2018 8:19:46 GMT -5
I use Half-Pint and pint size jars, all with Lids and bands. I store 2 ounces in the half and 4 ounces in the full. This works best for me since I go through phases where I’ll smoke x blend for a few weeks, then switch to y blend, etc. I may not come back to x for a while. If I use a bigger jar and only smoke a few ounces, the aging process stops.
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 15, 2018 8:21:58 GMT -5
Thanks! That's the advice I needed, and I guess I really just needed confirmation that I wasn't headed down the wrong path by using small mouth jars. I guess I will have to give Cheerwine another try! lol Well you like what you like. I even like Moxie but to many, thats a big NO as a drink choice. I gotta try this Laphroaig though. I'm also no expert. I just know that with my studies, I think more about what could be floating in the environment at any given time. I can be a bit OCD so I'd rather take precautions and be organized. Wide mouth is just easier to work with too. I love Moxie. I wished they sold it in NY. I’ve ordered it online, but with the shipping, it gets expensive. |
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Post by blackmouth210 on Sept 15, 2018 8:25:07 GMT -5
I use Ball jars in a variety of sizes for each blend. It's good to have options.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 8:30:49 GMT -5
Quart jars for long term aging. Pint sized jars for short term aging, wide mouth jars for everyday bulk blends in rotation, that hold 3 .oz of tobacco. The wide mouth jars work well, stuff a pipe over the wide mouth with no mess👍👍. Sometimes they are on the shelf @ Walmart, if not they can be ordered online from Walmart......shipped to your home or local Walmart for free. Both Ball and Kerr make the perfect wide mouth jars👌👍👍  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 8:33:00 GMT -5
Do what works for you...don't over think it...supposed to be fun, not work. Yeah, that's not the way my mind works. I either do it right the first time, or I worried about it for ever. That’s what will makes you an excellent Attorney 👍👍. I MUST do it right the first time as well. |
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Sept 15, 2018 8:52:05 GMT -5
I just started using the quart size , makes a big mess to transfer so I will stock up on some of those wide mouth for short term use. Should I vacuum seal lids ? I know you can order these Sealing lids |
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 15, 2018 9:17:15 GMT -5
I just started using the quart size , makes a big mess to transfer so I will stock up on some of those wide mouth for short term use. Should I vacuum seal lids ? I know you can order these Sealing lidsFor tobacco, no but has some great uses in the kitchen.  |
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Sept 15, 2018 9:18:12 GMT -5
I just started using the quart size , makes a big mess to transfer so I will stock up on some of those wide mouth for short term use. Should I vacuum seal lids ? I know you can order these Sealing lidsFor tobacco, no but has some great uses in the kitchen. I figured it would be overkill, I use them sometimes for resealing pickles or pickled peppers.. |
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Post by kxg on Sept 15, 2018 9:18:18 GMT -5
Should I vacuum seal lids ? I know you can order these Sealing lidsFrom what I’ve read, no. Apparently you need a bit of air to make the aging process work. The jars should seal if the lid is tight. |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 15, 2018 9:29:01 GMT -5
Should I vacuum seal lids ? I know you can order these Sealing lidsFrom what I’ve read, no. Apparently you need a bit of air to make the aging process work. The jars should seal if the lid is tight. G.L. Pease has a bunch of articles on this topic, and he agrees - no vacuum sealing |
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 15, 2018 9:30:20 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not the way my mind works. I either do it right the first time, or I worried about it for ever. That’s what will makes you an excellent Attorney 👍👍. I MUST do it right the first time as well. It's a lesson everyone has to learn at some point in their life. Hopefully, they learn the easy way. |
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Post by kxg on Sept 15, 2018 9:47:15 GMT -5
From what I’ve read, no. Apparently you need a bit of air to make the aging process work. The jars should seal if the lid is tight. G.L. Pease has a bunch of articles on this topic, and he agrees - no vacuum sealing That’s probably where I read it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 9:51:38 GMT -5
Vacuum seal equals poor aging!!!
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 15, 2018 10:06:13 GMT -5
Vacuum seal equals poor aging!!! but good for aromatics though, no? |
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Post by william on Sept 15, 2018 10:10:16 GMT -5
I'm no expert but this is my thinking based on my studies of microbiology and wanting the best care for my investment. I store my tobacco in wide mouth pint jars. Permanent marker is used on the lid itself for what tobacco it is and the date I put it in there. One of them is marked as the jar to pull from first of which I put that into an 8oz or 4oz jar. That way I'm only ever opening that smaller jar often leaving the pint jar alone. Once the pint jar is used up, I can move to another one and mark it as the one I pull tobacco from to put into smaller jars for smoking. My reasoning is that if something were to be in the air and get into my tobacco, that one jar will be singled out and not a whole batch in a larger jar like a half gallon one. Everytime it gets opened, thats another chance of contamination. Hence why I also put a small amount from the jar being used into smaller jars I smoke from. But I also dont smoke as much as others so always pulling from a pint jar takes a long time for me to finish. Its over kill I know and many pipe smokers never have issue just doing whatever they want without caution. To me, jars are cheap, its not much effort and I want to keep my investment. If a blend were to go away this week that I love and am stocked up on so that I can enjoy it ten years from now, I want to make sure its in the best condition possible. I agree strongly with this. It's my reasoning as well. I use Avery labels because even though some of you guys think you are are neat freaks, you are all obsessive-compulsive lightweights.   |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 10:12:04 GMT -5
Vacuum seal equals poor aging!!! but good for aromatics though, no? I’d think so, aromatic blends lose their flavor with age.....JMHO |
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 15, 2018 10:12:52 GMT -5
but good for aromatics though, no? I’d think so, aromatic blends lose their flavor with age.....JMHO that's what I was thinking. The vacuum would help keep the flavour. |
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Post by william on Sept 15, 2018 10:13:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, and Geaux Tigers (LSU Tigers that is )!! Not a fan of Auburn and their unused coloring books... So we agree about something. I hope your team destroys Auburn today. Oh--and ROLL TIDE!!! |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Sept 15, 2018 10:13:38 GMT -5
Vacuum seal equals poor aging!!! That being said, I received a 1lb brick of Red Cake 5100, last year, that had been vacuum sealed for 10 years. Gotta tell ya, it was outta this world. No vinegar or ketchup smell at all. I ended up giving 1/2 of it away to various pipe pals and then it happened..... Tobaccolypse! Only have a few oz left now and save it for special occasions. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 10:15:16 GMT -5
I’d think so, aromatic blends lose their flavor with age.....JMHO that's what I was thinking. The vacuum would help keep the flavour. FLAVOR......🤪😜🤪😜😜😜😂 |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Sept 15, 2018 10:16:32 GMT -5
I'd recommend going to Tractor Supply. I just picked up another dozen wide jars for $10.
Though not as attractive as the decorative Candy Jars I scored from Dollar Tree, they do seal much better.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 15, 2018 10:17:51 GMT -5
that's what I was thinking. The vacuum would help keep the flavour. FLAVOR......🤪😜🤪😜😜😜😂 for you, perhaps. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 10:20:42 GMT -5
Vacuum seal equals poor aging!!! That being said, I received a 1lb brick of Red Cake 5100, last year, that had been vacuum sealed for 10 years. Gotta tell ya, it was outta this world. No vinegar or ketchup smell at all. I ended up giving 1/2 of it away to various pipe pals and then it happened..... Tobaccolypse! Only have a few oz left now and save it for special occasions. Tobacco will age at a much slower pace when vacuum sealed....but it still ages👍👍 |
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