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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 20:10:45 GMT -5
( Dramatwist, avert your eyes!  ) I have personal (i.e., anecdotal) proof positive that Savinelli fliters remove a significant amount of nicotine. I'm down to the last few bowls of some Irish Flake that I've been smoking on an off for a year of so. It's always been a nic powerhouse for me - need to take it slow, or I get the warning dizziness etc. For the first time I'm trying it with my 9mm HCA pipe with a Sav balsa filter and it might as well be 1Q for all the effect it's having on me. It's a really significant difference and I don't care what anybody else says!  I'm totally sold on these filters. Not only do they allow me to enjoy blends that risked making me feel sick, but I enjoy more blends with what I considered "problematic" ingredients, like Perique and some VAs. It softens and smooths them out, and rather than reducing flavor they actually allow me to taste the tobacco better because the harshness is reduced if not eliminated. I wouldn't necessarily smoke aros or English blends with them, but they've opened up a whole new world for what used to be for me harsh, nic-sweat blends. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 23, 2018 20:13:30 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting. Maybe I shouldn't have thrown the filters away without even trying them.
Sometimes I'm looking for the "nic hit" or the harshness. Othertimes, I want to smoke the blend but dont want either of the 2.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 23, 2018 20:36:00 GMT -5
I just recently bought a 9mm pipe by accident. Maybe this is my ticket to enjoying 1792 flake fully |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 21:02:05 GMT -5
The pipes I own that use filters I notice they are best to collect moisture and tar....I still get the same amount of nicotine. Remember, I don’t inhale....ever. That might be the difference as well.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 23, 2018 21:08:28 GMT -5
I'm guilty of inhaling a few puffs here and there. Ex cig smoker so the habit is just there. Some I dont mind, some have had me hacking to the point that my eyes were watering and had crap coming out of my nose. (Freshley cleaned grabow with brown bogie referenced in the cleaning thread). Bayou night can be an eye opener too if accidentally inhaled.
I'll see if any of the unsmoked cobs that I bought still have a filter. If so, I'll try it out and report back with my thoughts. If not, it gives me a reason to make a "small" order.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 21:08:57 GMT -5
The pipes I own that use filters I notice they are best to collect moisture and tar....I still get the same amount of nicotine. Remember, I don’t inhale....ever. That might be the difference as well. Me either, except a little bit incidentally through the nose I guess. |
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Post by monbla256 on Sept 23, 2018 21:36:41 GMT -5
Having smoked un-filtered Pall Malls for several years ( along with my pipes) so I've experienced a nic hit but the only blend that delivered the same when inhaled was Royal Yacht (thiers probably others but I've not smoked 'em.) This only happened when I inhaled not when properly smoking! I tried a 6mm balsa Sav filter in one of my Savs but it took a lot of the flavor out so I haven't used any since in any of my Savs that can use 'em. JMHO  |
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Post by AJ on Sept 23, 2018 22:55:18 GMT -5
( Dramatwist , avert your eyes! ) I have personal (i.e., anecdotal) proof positive that Savinelli fliters remove a significant amount of nicotine. I'm down to the last few bowls of some Irish Flake that I've been smoking on an off for a year of so. It's always been a nic powerhouse for me - need to take it slow, or I get the warning dizziness etc. For the first time I'm trying it with my 9mm HCA pipe with a Sav balsa filter and it might as well be 1Q for all the effect it's having on me. It's a really significant difference and I don't care what anybody else says! I'm totally sold on these filters. Not only do they allow me to enjoy blends that risked making me feel sick, but I enjoy more blends with what I considered "problematic" ingredients, like Perique and some VAs. It softens and smooths them out, and rather than reducing flavor they actually allow me to taste the tobacco better because the harshness is reduced if not eliminated. I wouldn't necessarily smoke aros or English blends with them, but they've opened up a whole new world for what used to be for me harsh, nic-sweat blends. I discovered years ago that filters can remove tongue bite from the smoking experience by reducing the amount of moisture that comes from smoking aromatics or blends that come a bit overly moist. Filters also smooth the rough edges that are prevalent in many blends. They also reduce the amount of tar and nicotine one would expect from smoking tobacco. As I usually inhale every third or fourth puff the filter may be reducing my chances of experiencing some undersirable health issues. I have over 50 pipes that can utilize either 9mm or 6mm filter and they get smoked more frequently than my pipes that don’t utilize a filter. Using a filter enhances my smoking experience. AJ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 22:56:47 GMT -5
All a filter does is remove moisture from improperly prepared tobacco resulting in a drier smoke. All kinds of things have been tried Dunhill Inner tubes, Medico Paper Filters, Carey Magic Inch. Oh sure they get yucky because some particulates adhere to the moist surface. Some folks like very dry tobacco and claim better flavor. Some blame gurgle on a bad pipe design. We have folks who microwave and folks who put tobacco under a desk lamp like MKULTRA experiment before smoking it. All of them looking for that moisture level that is best for them. Sure I use a filter it is called the tobacco in the heal of the bowl. I don't worry about throwing out dottle or smoking to a fine white ash or even throwing the whole mess away and repacking. Filters are a gimmick but if they help you achieve a moisture level that works for you by all means please keep believing. YMMV www.talkingtobacco.com/2012/03/tobacco-pipe-filters-explained/ www.eacarey.co.uk/2014/10/bit-a-lot-actually-filters/ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 23:04:18 GMT -5
To me, the Magic Inch is about the best system. I use Brigham Maple Rocks in some pipes. I have to cut them shorter for many, but I get a full draw and you can see the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 1:16:46 GMT -5
All a filter does is remove moisture from improperly prepared tobacco resulting in a drier smoke. All kinds of things have been tried Dunhill Inner tubes, Medico Paper Filters, Carey Magic Inch. Oh sure they get yucky because some particulates adhere to the moist surface. Some folks like very dry tobacco and claim better flavor. Some blame gurgle on a bad pipe design. We have folks who microwave and folks who put tobacco under a desk lamp like MKULTRA experiment before smoking it. All of them looking for that moisture level that is best for them. Sure I use a filter it is called the tobacco in the heal of the bowl. I don't worry about throwing out dottle or smoking to a fine white ash or even throwing the whole mess away and repacking. Filters are a gimmick but if they help you achieve a moisture level that works for you by all means please keep believing. YMMV www.talkingtobacco.com/2012/03/tobacco-pipe-filters-explained/ www.eacarey.co.uk/2014/10/bit-a-lot-actually-filters/Both links you posted also mention a reduction of nicotine (and other chemicals). |
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 24, 2018 3:09:01 GMT -5
I'm guilty of inhaling a few puffs here and there. Ex cig smoker so the habit is just there. Some I dont mind, some have had me hacking to the point that my eyes were watering and had crap coming out of my nose. (Freshley cleaned grabow with brown bogie referenced in the cleaning thread). Bayou night can be an eye opener too if accidentally inhaled. I'll see if any of the unsmoked cobs that I bought still have a filter. If so, I'll try it out and report back with my thoughts. If not, it gives me a reason to make a "small" order. Is brown bogie named after the crap that comes out your nose when inhaling? @chico - it looks like you've got some scientific proof, at least with respect to your own body chemistry, that filters reduce nicotine. It works for you so that makes me happy...especially now that you can smoke some of your heavier blends without feeling woozy afterwards. I think you've found a winning solution that works for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 4:40:24 GMT -5
Chico did I not say the wet filter catches particulates. Example you take a large XL pipe with a wide open Canadian stem do you think all the extra wood surface does not equal the surface area of a balsa filter or worse a wet Medico filter. I say you inhale and Russ agrees with me. The filter helps to alleviate your problem with improper drying. Your filter is a airway restriction a crutch for those that can not control volume of smoke intake per puff. Resulting in your case a smoother smoke. Now look a slow smoker they have complete control over their intake per puff that's how they milk that bowl for over a hour without relighting. As for me my best smokes are when I take my time without distractions and slowly smoke that bowl in search of nuances and not when I have my lawn care weedeater beater pipe hanging from my mouth hot enough to burn the sun.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 24, 2018 5:11:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's got anything to do with smoking technique. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think, what Chico is saying is that, regardless of technique, a filter can make a difference in the amount of nicotine that is detected.
I don't think we can accuse him of having a bad smoking technique based on that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 5:22:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's got anything to do with smoking technique. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think, what Chico is saying is that, regardless of technique, a filter can make a difference in the amount of nicotine that is detected. I don't think we can accuse him of having a bad smoking technique based on that. Every pipe smoker has their own technique that’s worked best for them after trial and error. I’m sure filters remove a certain percentage of nicotine, as well as moisture and tar. However, if a pipe smoker drools any pipe can end up gurgling. Try and focus, cut down your drooling if possible. Don’t know what more I can add. |
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Post by haebar on Sept 24, 2018 5:59:20 GMT -5
All a filter does is remove moisture from improperly prepared tobacco resulting in a drier smoke. All kinds of things have been tried Dunhill Inner tubes, Medico Paper Filters, Carey Magic Inch. Oh sure they get yucky because some particulates adhere to the moist surface. Some folks like very dry tobacco and claim better flavor. Some blame gurgle on a bad pipe design. We have folks who microwave and folks who put tobacco under a desk lamp like MKULTRA experiment before smoking it. All of them looking for that moisture level that is best for them. Sure I use a filter it is called the tobacco in the heal of the bowl. I don't worry about throwing out dottle or smoking to a fine white ash or even throwing the whole mess away and repacking. Filters are a gimmick but if they help you achieve a moisture level that works for you by all means please keep believing. YMMV www.talkingtobacco.com/2012/03/tobacco-pipe-filters-explained/ www.eacarey.co.uk/2014/10/bit-a-lot-actually-filters/That's a good article. Thanks for posting! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 24, 2018 6:01:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's got anything to do with smoking technique. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think, what Chico is saying is that, regardless of technique, a filter can make a difference in the amount of nicotine that is detected. I don't think we can accuse him of having a bad smoking technique based on that. Every pipe smoker has their own technique that’s worked best for them after trial and error. I’m sure filters remove a certain percentage of nicotine, as well as moisture and tar. However, if a pipe smoker drools any pipe can end up gurgling. Try and focus, cut down your drooling if possible. Don’t know what more I can add. Drooling is MY issue. I never notice nicotine with or without filters... But I don't really care if I'm honest. I like the experience and the smell of the smoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 6:32:39 GMT -5
I don't like them. From my experience they can be anything but smoking friendly (i.e. cause some airway blockages) at times. But that's not the main reason. I love nicotine and filters are a detriment to it.
Consequently, I do not buy pipes allowing filters.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 24, 2018 10:23:07 GMT -5
I like the occasional nicotine buzz, but sometimes I can't get it from even the strongest tobacco. Is there a filter to add nicotine? 😎🤠
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 24, 2018 10:24:23 GMT -5
I like the occasional nicotine buzz, but sometimes I can't get it from even the strongest tobacco. Is there a filter to add nicotine? 😎🤠 That's a great idea. Fold up a nicotine patch and use it as a filter. That might do the trick... Except that it won't. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 10:27:12 GMT -5
I like the occasional nicotine buzz, but sometimes I can't get it from even the strongest tobacco. Is there a filter to add nicotine? 😎🤠 That's a great idea. Fold up a nicotine patch and use it as a filter. That might do the trick... Except that it won't. Get yourself some Brown Irish X......that will give you the nicotine kick of your life👍👍 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 24, 2018 10:39:23 GMT -5
That's a great idea. Fold up a nicotine patch and use it as a filter. That might do the trick... Except that it won't. Get yourself some Brown Irish X......that will give you the nicotine kick of your life👍👍 I can't stand the taste. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 11:02:49 GMT -5
Get yourself some Brown Irish X......that will give you the nicotine kick of your life👍👍 I can't stand the taste. Make a blend with your favorite aromatic.....it works👍 |
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Post by haveldad on Sept 24, 2018 11:10:54 GMT -5
( Dramatwist, avert your eyes! ) I have personal (i.e., anecdotal) proof positive that Savinelli fliters remove a significant amount of nicotine. I'm down to the last few bowls of some Irish Flake that I've been smoking on an off for a year of so. It's always been a nic powerhouse for me - need to take it slow, or I get the warning dizziness etc. For the first time I'm trying it with my 9mm HCA pipe with a Sav balsa filter and it might as well be 1Q for all the effect it's having on me. It's a really significant difference and I don't care what anybody else says! I'm totally sold on these filters. Not only do they allow me to enjoy blends that risked making me feel sick, but I enjoy more blends with what I considered "problematic" ingredients, like Perique and some VAs. It softens and smooths them out, and rather than reducing flavor they actually allow me to taste the tobacco better because the harshness is reduced if not eliminated. I wouldn't necessarily smoke aros or English blends with them, but they've opened up a whole new world for what used to be for me harsh, nic-sweat blends. Interesting find. For sure an awesome thing to utilize if youre a low tolerance nicotine enjoyer. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:11:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's got anything to do with smoking technique. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think, what Chico is saying is that, regardless of technique, a filter can make a difference in the amount of nicotine that is detected. I don't think we can accuse him of having a bad smoking technique based on that. Yes, exactly. And that's even stated in the linked articles, so I'm a little confused what the debate is even supposed to be. Lots of other odd assumptions, too....  |
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Post by Baboo on Sept 24, 2018 17:24:27 GMT -5
Filters don't just block moisture; either from drool or from the bowled tobacco... and filters do slightly alter taste, often for the better - softening harshness but not really muting flavor. Most of my smokes tend to be dry, so filters for me don't address a moisture issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 10:28:10 GMT -5
Make a blend with your favorite aromatic.....it works👍 There's also opting for the Maple Twist which is the Brown Twist with the added maple flavor. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 11:16:20 GMT -5
That's a great idea. Fold up a nicotine patch and use it as a filter. That might do the trick... Except that it won't. Get yourself some Brown Irish X......that will give you the nicotine kick of your life👍👍 I have some of that aging. I might get up the nerve to smoke it one of these days.🤡 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 12:14:58 GMT -5
Pretty sure 9mm pipe with a meer or activated charcoal filter blocks a percentage of tar, nicotine and perhaps flavor. Guessing same with balsa filters, however, using famous WAG method, perhaps not to same level. To each their own.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 13:38:56 GMT -5
Pretty sure 9mm pipe with a meer or activated charcoal filter blocks a percentage of tar, nicotine and perhaps flavor. Guessing same with balsa filters, however, using famous WAG method, perhaps not to same level. To each their own. WAG method? |
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