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Post by qmechanics on Sept 26, 2018 16:50:41 GMT -5
Hi I know this topic comes up from time to time in many forums. Still it would be nice to have one thread where we pull our collective knowledge to help each other date tobacco tins;a place to put forward and respectfully correct information. For now I will start with two links; A. 2010-present Dunhill Tin Codes: www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/how-date-dunhill-tobaccoB. December 1995- present Samuel Gawith Tin Codes: www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/you-can-now-date-your-gawith-tobaccos Gawith date codes it's tins with a 5 digit number (typically printed on a clear sticker found on the side or back of the tin),the first 2 digits for the day and the last 3 digits for the number of months from December 1995 (including December which has to be accounted for in the calculation). PS Personally I date every tobacco with an arrival time and note the date of manufacture as well, that is if I can find or decode the manufacturer's date. |
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Post by antb on Sept 27, 2018 1:58:30 GMT -5
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Post by antb on Sept 27, 2018 2:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by pepesdad1 on Sept 27, 2018 16:23:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips....was able to go back and properly date what is in the cellar.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Sept 27, 2018 17:21:05 GMT -5
Hi I know this topic comes up from time to time in many forums. Still it would be nice to have one thread where we pull our collective knowledge to help each other date tobacco tins;a place to put forward and respectfully correct, information. For now I will start with two links; A. 2010-present Dunhill Tin Codes: www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/how-date-dunhill-tobaccoB. December 1995- present Samuel Gawith Tin Codes: www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/you-can-now-date-your-gawith-tobaccos Gawith date codes it's tins with a 5 digit number (typically printed on a clear sticker found on the side or back of the tin),the first 2 digits for the day and the last 3 digits for the number of months from December 1995 (including December which has to be accounted for in the calculation). PS Personally I date every tobacco with an arrival time and note the date of manufacture as well, that is if I can find or decode the manufacturer's date. This is a great post with great information. I'm kinda wondering how a 25yo young man comes up with this great stuff? |
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Post by qmechanics on Sept 27, 2018 19:43:29 GMT -5
I think it is magic.. perhaps?😁
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Post by pepesdad1 on Sept 27, 2018 19:56:44 GMT -5
^^^Yeah...OK.
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Post by qmechanics on Sept 27, 2018 19:57:54 GMT -5
When there is no code to discern, all we have are subtle differences to help us determine a general age. Sometimes it's the type of tin, label and/or statement changes that can help one get a general idea of these tins' age, like with Rattray. Do you have any thoughts on blends like this?
PS Props to antb for adding a few solid links... I have a few more tricks up my sleeve, though I hope others will add to this thread before I do.
MacBaren (younger tins), C&D, GL Pease etc typically have simple date statements on the back label or stamped on the bottom of their tins. This is commonly known but for thoroughness sake I have added the information.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Sept 27, 2018 20:47:27 GMT -5
great bit of knowledge to have thanks for posting |
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 12, 2018 7:58:57 GMT -5
Escudo dating has been reported as the first six numbers YYDDMM. Can anyone confirm?
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 12, 2018 8:07:37 GMT -5
McClelland tins with 6 digit code
First 2 digits ...blend
Second 2 digits....batch
Third 2 digits....year
There appears to be a consensus about this in other forums.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 12, 2018 14:13:18 GMT -5
McClelland tins with 6 digit code First 2 digits ...blend Second 2 digits....batch Third 2 digits....year There appears to be a consensus about this in other forums. Are you causing havoc in other forums too? |
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Post by beardedmi on Nov 13, 2018 20:43:08 GMT -5
McClelland tins with 6 digit code First 2 digits ...blend Second 2 digits....batch Third 2 digits....year There appears to be a consensus about this in other forums. mcclellands is a simple date mmddyy not quite as easy as c&d but there ya go. |
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 13, 2018 21:39:06 GMT -5
McClelland tins with 6 digit code First 2 digits ...blend Second 2 digits....batch Third 2 digits....year There appears to be a consensus about this in other forums. mcclellands is a simple date mmddyy not quite as easy as c&d but there ya go. Good to hear from you... I have McClelland tins (as do others) that do not fit the pattern mmddyy. A quick Google search also appears to confirm the Blend/Batch/Year code as well. Maybe the code you see only appears to match mmddyy (I have McClelland tins that are marked in a way that appears to be mmddyy. As some other McClelland tins did not,I looked to the forums and found the answer above.)? However as I do not know if the code changed or if different codes were applied to different blends etc., I stand ready to be corrected. Let's see if anyone else might have something to say on the subject. It is better to be 100% on such things, either way it goes. PS All my C&D tins are stamped with the date going back 15 years or so. However,I do believe some have confused other numbers for a date stamp. If one looks carefully, assuming it has not been displaced, it should be there (typically on the tin's bottom). |
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 13, 2018 21:53:35 GMT -5
McClelland tins with 6 digit code First 2 digits ...blend Second 2 digits....batch Third 2 digits....year There appears to be a consensus about this in other forums. Are you causing havoc in other forums too? This thread is meant to help each of us determine a tin's age from tin codes, tin shapes/sizes, labels etc. . In order to accomplish this task a bit of research is needed.This can involve looking at forums, articles, books etc. to uncover information. By working together with other folks on this forum, I hope we can confirm, add, correct or modify anything said to improve our mutual understanding. PS Legend Lover there are many forum subjects that are pretty light and benign. I have fun during those occasions. 😁 |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 7, 2019 22:07:38 GMT -5
From the man himself, Per Georg Jensen...the face of MacBaren.  |
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Post by kbareit on Jan 7, 2019 22:23:51 GMT -5
Useful information, thanks
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Post by Darin on Jan 7, 2019 22:29:20 GMT -5
Great info, Charlie ... thanks!
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Post by desolbones on Jan 7, 2019 23:37:20 GMT -5
I am so guilty of looking at the pictures and reading the descriptions at PipeStuds...eventually it will show up!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 1:07:39 GMT -5
I think that example tin date would have been 11/20/2017 (324 or day number of the year 2017). 365 - 324 = 41, and if you backtrack 41 days from 12/31/2017, you should hit the date of 11/20/2017 (I think)… trailboss Thanks for sharing Charlie... |
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Post by antb on Jan 8, 2019 2:59:49 GMT -5
Thank you, Charlie!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 5:48:34 GMT -5
Thanks for posting Charlie, it’s a good picture for all to save for future reference 👍👍
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Post by scrooge on Jan 8, 2019 6:34:06 GMT -5
Thanks Charlie!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 8, 2019 9:24:52 GMT -5
From the man himself, Per Georg Jensen...the face of MacBaren. Merged into this thread and tidied up responses. Thanks For sharing trailboss. |
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Post by mrlunting on Mar 9, 2021 9:50:16 GMT -5
There are no codes on tins here certainly nothing that can use to properly date them. So I mark them the day they were purchased.
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Post by jdOhio on Jul 2, 2021 14:31:08 GMT -5
Can the Sam Gawith boxes (250 g) (not tins) be dated?
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Post by qmechanics on Oct 27, 2021 14:55:45 GMT -5
I do not know, though there might be a code from the company stamped on the package. If there is, then the company might be willing to tell you what the code means. If you find out, please come back to the thread and post your results.
Does anyone have anything to add to the entries above?
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Post by trailboss on Jun 15, 2022 21:12:04 GMT -5
Threadsuurection!
While searching out dates for some Rattray’s tins, it seemed that there wasn’t much info until I ran across this guy. A handy feature is if you look under his notes, the bookmarked location for different brands are bookmarked so you don’t have to wade through the whole video.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 15, 2022 21:30:49 GMT -5
I'm so glad to be past the dating scene.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 16, 2022 6:11:17 GMT -5
I'm so glad to be past the dating scene. I see what you did there. |
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