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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 11:58:40 GMT -5
It has been my experience that having a favorite blend one smokes a lot, the experience can start to get associated with home. It becomes part of what you miss when you travel.
No surprise then that traveling and pipe smoking have gone together. Perhaps its a little taste of home when you are home sick.
In a way it kind of explains all the sailing ships on tobacco tins.
A quote from Alfred Lansing, in his book "Endurance" about the Shackleton expedition.
“Little by little, conditions were becoming increasingly primitive. The treasured nut food had been finished, and the powdered milk too. And though these were sorely missed, their lack could hardly be compared with the tragedy when the tobacco finally ran out.”
And from Leonard Bickels book "Shackleton's Forgotten Men" we find
"Even a brand of tobacco—"Hut Point Mixture"—was concocted by Ernest Wild from sawdust, tea, coffee and a few dried herbs."
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Post by stilllernin on Oct 2, 2018 12:13:58 GMT -5
Sounds like sorry smoke to be sure. Couldn't imagine being without tobacco in hand or on the horizon, I might have done the same.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 2, 2018 12:14:46 GMT -5
I never thought of it like that. I don't smoke enough to miss it when I'm away, but I get the rationale.
Certain pipe smoke brings back some vivid memories of childhood.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:17:37 GMT -5
Great post and I must agree! When I traveled often I always made sure I had my 3 favorite tobacco’s that I smoked at home often. Especially if I was out of the States for any length of time. When I was living in Europe,” ALL “ the Rattray’s blends were readily available, but I had to smoke at least one pipe a day of an old codger blend that I had shipped to me from the States once I ran low on my favorites!! Definitely helped when I felt home sick👌👌👍
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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 12:19:04 GMT -5
The history of polar exploration is kind of an interest of mine. I do a lot of reading (can you tell?), and I have been to Antarctica, but as a significantly more comfortable tourist. I did smoke many cigars on the ship.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 12:19:59 GMT -5
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Post by puffy on Oct 2, 2018 12:56:04 GMT -5
I can just imagine a situation where they were cold,not enough food,hoping to be rescued,and not knowing if they would be.and then to make things even worse no tobacco.Not a very good situation to be in.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 13:26:11 GMT -5
There is a scene from "Endurance" I think, or it might be "South" by Shackleton himself, where Shackleton pulls one of his men up out of a crevasse in the ice, and the poor guy gets all angry at him because his tobacco pouch still down there.
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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 13:37:36 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all.
"I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival."
Where to begin with such a person?
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 2, 2018 14:18:43 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? with a slap? |
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Post by jeffd on Oct 2, 2018 14:28:04 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? with a slap? I was thinking more of a free trip back to earth from whatever planet this person is on.  |
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Post by blackmouth210 on Oct 2, 2018 14:34:04 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? Where do you begin? You walk away. It's not worth the effort with people like that. We should value our time and energy enough to not waste it on a person that closed-minded. |
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Post by stilllernin on Oct 2, 2018 14:41:41 GMT -5
He must have ran exclusively on hate and nicotine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:55:52 GMT -5
It has been my experience that having a favorite blend one smokes a lot, the experience can start to get associated with home. It becomes part of what you miss when you travel. No surprise then that traveling and pipe smoking have gone together. Perhaps its a little taste of home when you are home sick. In a way it kind of explains all the sailing ships on tobacco tins. A quote from Alfred Lansing, in his book "Endurance" about the Shackleton expedition. “Little by little, conditions were becoming increasingly primitive. The treasured nut food had been finished, and the powdered milk too. And though these were sorely missed, their lack could hardly be compared with the tragedy when the tobacco finally ran out.” And from Leonard Bickels book "Shackleton's Forgotten Men" we find "Even a brand of tobacco—"Hut Point Mixture"—was concocted by Ernest Wild from sawdust, tea, coffee and a few dried herbs." Thank you! I love this stuff |
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Post by kxg on Oct 2, 2018 15:02:02 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? As my old mother often said, "he should be pitied rather than scorned." Some people lead sad, small lives. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 15:20:26 GMT -5
Fascinating stuff. According to the PBS documentary, although forever tied at the hip in history, Shackelton and Wild had a split which was never resolved.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 2, 2018 15:37:19 GMT -5
My best friends father was the official photographer for Esso on the SS Manhattan that completed the first Northwest Passage in 1969.
He took a picture of himself standing on the ice with a pack of Lucky Strikes in his hand with the ship clearly visible in the background. He had ice in his beard. He joked about selling it to the tobacco company but it was against the rules. They had everything that a major oil company could pack on there, but he said he wouldn't do it again for anything.
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Post by stilllernin on Oct 2, 2018 18:18:27 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? As my old mother often said, "he should be pitied rather than scorned." Some people lead sad, small lives. Very true, often times people lose touch with what truly matters while and sink into self loathing focusing on what was as if it could never be again. That man probably smoked his tobacc in such a fashion trying not to let go but struggling to move on. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 6, 2018 16:38:29 GMT -5
I am still fussing over "Polar Expedition 6" and their final broadcast.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Oct 6, 2018 16:41:52 GMT -5
I know a guy who smokes dried raspberry leaves from time to time in his pipes, who doesn't smoke tobacco anymore because of his health insurance policy. I guess he should have never told them, but it's too late now. There ARE herbal smoking blends.. Legal ones, I mean. bearblend.com/If you are feeling super adventurous. I've never smoked anything but tobacco in my briars. But it would be an interesting experience. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 6, 2018 17:34:59 GMT -5
Here is something I found posted by someone who doesn't get it. At all. "I'm reading Shackleton's account of the Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, and I'm quite surprised by the constant references to smoking pipes. Why would someone who took such care to individual rations, and who made sure that no extra weight was carried, allow tobacco? I can't seem to think that it would aid in anyone's survival." Where to begin with such a person? As my old mother often said, "he should be pitied rather than scorned." Some people lead sad, small lives. But...but scorning is much more fun. Maybe a slap would be better. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 6, 2018 20:34:06 GMT -5
As my old mother often said, "he should be pitied rather than scorned." Some people lead sad, small lives. Very true, often times people lose touch with what truly matters while and sink into self loathing focusing on what was as if it could never be again. That man probably smoked his tobacc in such a fashion trying not to let go but struggling to move on. He actually carried much more weight in whisky. The man had his priorities in order. |
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Post by jeffd on Oct 7, 2018 13:52:48 GMT -5
I think one of the hall marks of maturity is understanding the distinction between necessary and unnecessary discomfort, and behaving accordingly. The corollary would be to distinguish between necessary and unnecessary deprivation.
So you may be a civil war re-enactor and understand the deprivations you need to undergo to be effective. And it is also ok to smoke the period looking pipe that was actually made with the help of modern tools.
And if you are going to the extremes of the earth, you might not bring your fuzzy slippers, but doing without a pipe and tobacco, and a daily slug of good bourbon, well that's going a bit far.
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Post by pappyjoe on Oct 7, 2018 14:31:58 GMT -5
In addition to the relaxation from smoking a bowl of the tobacco, there was also the warmth of the pipe while smoking. When you are in those conditions, every little bit of extra warmth can be of help.
I started smoking a pipe my first trip into arctic ice, September 1972. Made another trip north in February 1973 and a trip to Antarctica from late December 1973 to late February 1974.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 7, 2018 14:45:09 GMT -5
In addition to the relaxation from smoking a bowl of the tobacco, there was also the warmth of the pipe while smoking. When you are in those conditions, every little bit of extra warmth can be of help. I started smoking a pipe my first trip into arctic ice, September 1972. Made another trip north in February 1973 and a trip to Antarctica from late December 1973 to late February 1974. What were you doing out there? |
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Post by pappyjoe on Oct 7, 2018 15:20:00 GMT -5
In addition to the relaxation from smoking a bowl of the tobacco, there was also the warmth of the pipe while smoking. When you are in those conditions, every little bit of extra warmth can be of help. I started smoking a pipe my first trip into arctic ice, September 1972. Made another trip north in February 1973 and a trip to Antarctica from late December 1973 to late February 1974. What were you doing out there? Served on an icebreaker for two years. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 7, 2018 16:05:22 GMT -5
What were you doing out there? Served on an icebreaker for two years. I bet the new guys felt right at home. 😉 |
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Post by pappyjoe on Oct 7, 2018 17:29:55 GMT -5
Served on an icebreaker for two years. I bet the new guys felt right at home. 😉 I have no idea what your comment is supposed to mean. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 7, 2018 18:59:44 GMT -5
I bet the new guys felt right at home. 😉 I have no idea what your comment is supposed to mean. I also have no idea. However, I see you live in Slidell. When I lived in LA, I knew a woman from Slidell and she was a good one. Thought you would appreciate that. |
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