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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 9:49:46 GMT -5
I found a can of McClelland Navy Cavendish. Not sure of the age. I looked on tobacco reviews there is nothing on it.
I wondering what to expect when it gets opened. The can says Virginia's and Orientals with a rum topping
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Post by haveldad on Oct 25, 2018 9:51:55 GMT -5
Never had it myself but when it was still produced many people I know enjoyed it. Mcclelland had great orientals
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 9:57:41 GMT -5
It's probably a good tobacco, but if the price is high there are a lot of options. Barbados Plantation and Wilke Rumcake are both rum topped cavendish that are still made.
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Post by haveldad on Oct 25, 2018 10:00:17 GMT -5
It's probably a good tobacco, but if the price is high there are a lot of options. Barbados Plantation and Wilke Rumcake are both rum topped cavendish that are still made. This blend has no Cavendish in it according to like every website lol. Odd name if that's true |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 10:12:19 GMT -5
It's reviewed on Tobaccoreviews.com. JimInks gives it 3 stars, same as Rumcake.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 10:13:39 GMT -5
It's probably a good tobacco, but if the price is high there are a lot of options. Barbados Plantation and Wilke Rumcake are both rum topped cavendish that are still made. This blend has no Cavendish in it according to like every website lol. Odd name if that's true You must use some sort of tobacco to make cavendish. The name says Cavendish. Where is the confusion? |
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Post by haveldad on Oct 25, 2018 10:18:43 GMT -5
This blend has no Cavendish in it according to like every website lol. Odd name if that's true You must use some sort of tobacco to make cavendish. The name says Cavendish. Where is the confusion? Tobacco reviews just had its contents listed as "Virginia" not even the orientals it says on the tin. Same thing on two other websites. Perhapse it has no Cavendish and is just named that. Similar to how SG Balkan Flake is just a 70/30 virginia latakia flake. |
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Post by sparks on Oct 25, 2018 10:28:00 GMT -5
Cavendish is a process, not a tobacco. Cavendish by definition is tobacco that has been heat treated, and/or subjected to heavy pressure.
McC Navy Cavendish is a flake treated with Rum. The process of creating the flake (heat and pressure) is what qualifies it as a Cavendish, in the strictest sense of the definition.
Most people have come to associate Cavendish with the goopy, black crap that many find in smoke shop bulk jars. While these tobaccos FIT the definition of Cavendish, they are not THE definition of Cavendish.
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Post by haveldad on Oct 25, 2018 10:30:35 GMT -5
Cavendish is a process, not a tobacco. Cavendish by definition is tobacco that has been heat treated, and/or subjected to heavy pressure. McC Navy Cavendish is a flake treated with Rum. The process of creating the flake (heat and pressure) is what qualifies it as a Cavendish, in the strictest sense of the definition. Most people have come to associate Cavendish with the goopy, black crap that many find in smoke shop bulk jars. While these tobaccos FIT the definition of Cavendish, they are not THE definition of Cavendish. When I think Cavendish I 100% think of the crap in SPC blends that eventually made me stop liking them. |
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Post by stogiebear on Oct 25, 2018 11:52:25 GMT -5
There have been a few different things called cavendish over the years. McC Navy Cavendish was a throwback to a cavendish process used by sailors that involved a long soak in sugary rum. Blockade Runner is along the same lines.
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Oct 25, 2018 11:58:18 GMT -5
… I think its good...I use to buy it in pounds...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 13:22:07 GMT -5
From what I have read above this a rum soaked Virginia forward blend. I wonder if I should let it age a bit more?
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 14:05:56 GMT -5
Cavendish is a process, not a tobacco. Cavendish by definition is tobacco that has been heat treated, and/or subjected to heavy pressure. McC Navy Cavendish is a flake treated with Rum. The process of creating the flake (heat and pressure) is what qualifies it as a Cavendish, in the strictest sense of the definition. Most people have come to associate Cavendish with the goopy, black crap that many find in smoke shop bulk jars. While these tobaccos FIT the definition of Cavendish, they are not THE definition of Cavendish. Thanks for the help. I forgot about young grasshopper. 🤠😁 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 14:07:50 GMT -5
Cavendish is a process, not a tobacco. Cavendish by definition is tobacco that has been heat treated, and/or subjected to heavy pressure. McC Navy Cavendish is a flake treated with Rum. The process of creating the flake (heat and pressure) is what qualifies it as a Cavendish, in the strictest sense of the definition. Most people have come to associate Cavendish with the goopy, black crap that many find in smoke shop bulk jars. While these tobaccos FIT the definition of Cavendish, they are not THE definition of Cavendish. When I think Cavendish I 100% think of the crap in SPC blends that eventually made me stop liking them. There are many Cavendish blends that aren't like that. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 14:09:01 GMT -5
From what I have read above this a rum soaked Virginia forward blend. I wonder if I should let it age a bit more? As a Cavendish it's already aged all it needs. And the Rum topping won't improve with age. |
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Post by haveldad on Oct 25, 2018 14:22:36 GMT -5
When I think Cavendish I 100% think of the crap in SPC blends that eventually made me stop liking them. There are many Cavendish blends that aren't like that. Likely so, I just don't like them in my English anymore. Found sweetness in other tobaccos that I prefer. Which sucks because I have a lot of Plum pudding, Mississippi river, and the SR versions i don't touch at all. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 15:52:44 GMT -5
There are many Cavendish blends that aren't like that. Likely so, I just don't like them in my English anymore. Found sweetness in other tobaccos that I prefer. Which sucks because I have a lot of Plum pudding, Mississippi river, and the SR versions i don't touch at all. Well, hang on to them. Your taste will probably change several times over the years. Aros freeze well if they are properly sealed. |
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Post by stogiebear on Oct 25, 2018 20:45:57 GMT -5
Likely so, I just don't like them in my English anymore. Found sweetness in other tobaccos that I prefer. Which sucks because I have a lot of Plum pudding, Mississippi river, and the SR versions i don't touch at all. Well, hang on to them. Your taste will probably change several times over the years. Aros freeze well if they are properly sealed. Are you using that figuratively or does it actually make sense to store aros in a freezer? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 25, 2018 20:49:09 GMT -5
Well, hang on to them. Your taste will probably change several times over the years. Aros freeze well if they are properly sealed. Are you using that figuratively or does it actually make sense to store aros in a freezer? I stored two aros in the freezer for 30 years and they came out the same as they went in. Seal it well and thaw before opening. For short term use a Mason jar. |
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Post by SCF Dan on Oct 25, 2018 22:22:30 GMT -5
From what I have read above this a rum soaked Virginia forward blend. I wonder if I should let it age a bit more? Yes, I think that you should let it age until the next pipe club meeting.  |
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 25, 2018 22:34:45 GMT -5
Back when i started smoking I had two guys I worked with who from England and were pipe smokers . They both smoked Players Navy Cut flake which i smoked for awhile. It used to be sold here in the States back in the '70s then disapeared and is not in production anymore from what I understand. As I remember, it was a tastey, smooth flake that rubbed out well. Was the only "Navy" blend I've smoked.  |
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Post by driftingfate on Oct 25, 2018 23:20:17 GMT -5
John,
I'm a believer in "use it the way God intended." Goes for guns, pipes, motorcycles, cars, money, and other things or persons I won't mention.
It, like you, has plenty of age, my friend.
Smoke it now and in good health with the wife, enjoy it, just report back. It's NOT something you need to bring to Pipe Club, nobody has to share their gold bullion.
Best,
-David
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 15:05:57 GMT -5
From what I have read above this a rum soaked Virginia forward blend. I wonder if I should let it age a bit more? Yes, I think that you should let it age until the next pipe club meeting. Well I don't know it might need another decade or two. If I read the stamp correctly it was tinned in 93. |
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