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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 22:18:55 GMT -5
When I peruse the forums, often it is on the fly So I just look at what is on my mind at the moment... how I missed this thread is beyond me, great progression on the fast track! As someone alluded to earlier, you first one showed you have a gift... the last one is really a beaut!
Honorable mention to Ted, your elbow grease paid dividends.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 17, 2018 22:35:44 GMT -5
When I peruse the forums, often it is on the fly So I just look at what is on my mind at the moment... how I missed this thread is beyond me, great progression on the fast track! As someone alluded to earlier, you first one showed you have a gift... the last one is really a beaut! Honorable mention to Ted, your elbow grease paid dividends. Thanks, Charlie. That means a lot, and I welcome the encouragement.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 17, 2018 22:36:15 GMT -5
They are all really fine work...#8 is a knockout!...so is #7.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 17, 2018 23:13:34 GMT -5
They are all really fine work...#8 is a knockout!...so is #7. Thanks, Walt.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 17, 2018 23:25:34 GMT -5
Nicely done sir!
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Post by piffyr on Nov 18, 2018 0:23:50 GMT -5
Interesting piece. Free-form pipes aren't really my thing, but I can appreciate where you were going with it. There are some impressive details there. So, tell me, how hard was it to get the angle at the end of the stem to match up to the angle at the end of the shank? Got any hair left?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 18, 2018 0:39:17 GMT -5
Interesting piece. Free-form pipes aren't really my thing, but I can appreciate where you were going with it. There are some impressive details there. So, tell me, how hard was it to get the angle at the end of the stem to match up to the angle at the end of the shank? Got any hair left? Wasted 10" of ebonite! It's still not EXACTLY like I pictured it, but then again, things rarely are. The first three, I tried doing a standard style Danish stem. On the second one I gave up trying to to use my wood turning chisels on ebonite. I just can't get the feel for it, and I'm not wasting anymore stock. The fourth one, I did it the way I had originally planned. Drilled the whole thing up, then cut the angle in it. It's my first with a delrin tenon.
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Post by piffyr on Nov 18, 2018 0:52:24 GMT -5
Wasted 10" of ebonite! It's still not EXACTLY like I pictured it, but then again, things rarely are. The first three, I tried doing a standard style Danish stem. On the second one I gave up trying to to use my wood turning chisels on ebonite. I just can't get the feel for it, and I'm not wasting anymore stock. The fourth one, I did it the way I had originally planned. Drilled the whole thing up, then cut the angle in it. It's my first with a delrin tenon. I hate that it was frustrating for you, but I'm actually kind of glad that your first attempt at the stem didn't work out. My big beef with the Danish freehands from the '60s/'70s is that the stems on most are complete afterthoughts (I'm looking at you, Preben Holm). They don't really carry over any of the design elements of the stummel. Curvy stummel? Let's give it a stem with sharp, angular elements. Angular stummel? Let's give it a stem with curvy, rounded elements. Argh! It's like they just reached into a box of preformed stems and used the first one they laid hands on. Yours integrates, which is a nice touch.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 18, 2018 0:56:56 GMT -5
Wasted 10" of ebonite! It's still not EXACTLY like I pictured it, but then again, things rarely are. The first three, I tried doing a standard style Danish stem. On the second one I gave up trying to to use my wood turning chisels on ebonite. I just can't get the feel for it, and I'm not wasting anymore stock. The fourth one, I did it the way I had originally planned. Drilled the whole thing up, then cut the angle in it. It's my first with a delrin tenon. I hate that it was frustrating for you, but I'm actually kind of glad that your first attempt at the stem didn't work out. My big beef with the Danish freehands from the '60s/'70s is that the stems on most are complete afterthoughts (I'm looking at you, Preben Holm). They don't really carry over any of the design elements of the stummel. Curvy stummel? Let's give it a stem with sharp, angular elements. Angular stummel? Let's give it a stem with curvy, rounded elements. Argh! It's like they just reached into a box of preformed stems and used the first one they laid hands on. Yours integrates, which is a nice touch. thanks, sir. And, I agree with the Danish stems. I knew a standard one wasn't going to look right on this pipe. I was trying to phone it in, and I'm glad I was forced to pull up my britches and did it the right way - according to my original idea. Had I started with that avenue first, I'd still have that 10" of ebonite.
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Post by piffyr on Nov 18, 2018 1:20:48 GMT -5
Had I started with that avenue first, I'd still have that 10" of ebonite. Yeah, but you learned a few things and that adds up to experience. In the end, that's going to be worth a lot more than the cost of the ebonite.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 18, 2018 4:47:42 GMT -5
Cramptholomew, that is a thing of beauty. Truly wonderful carving. The whole thing screams beauty. If you were ever to float that on the market, I'm sure you would fetch a pretty sum for it.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 18, 2018 8:33:26 GMT -5
Had I started with that avenue first, I'd still have that 10" of ebonite. Yeah, but you learned a few things and that adds up to experience. In the end, that's going to be worth a lot more than the cost of the ebonite. That's true. And besides, the stem would have had one massive tenon to accommodate for the severe angle at the end of the shank - which would have been visible, and uuugggglllyyy.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 18, 2018 8:39:57 GMT -5
Cramptholomew, that is a thing of beauty. Truly wonderful carving. The whole thing screams beauty.ย If you were ever to float that on the market, I'm sure you would fetch a pretty sum for it. Thanks, buddy. It certainly took the most amount of time to make, so far. It's going to a friend for his 40th birthday. He's only an occasional pipe smoker, but he truly appreciates my artistic endeavors. We used to write music together. I made him a wacky candelabra, when I was still welding, and he still features it prominently.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 18, 2018 8:44:30 GMT -5
Cramptholomew, that is a thing of beauty. Truly wonderful carving. The whole thing screams beauty.ย If you were ever to float that on the market, I'm sure you would fetch a pretty sum for it. Thanks, buddy. It certainly took the most amount of time to make, so far. It's going to a friend for his 40th birthday. He's only an occasional pipe smoker, but he truly appreciates my artistic endeavors. We used to write music together. I made him a wacky candelabra, when I was still welding, and he still features it prominently. What a lovely gesture. I'm sure he'll be over the moon with that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 16:34:43 GMT -5
Jason ^^^^^^^^^^ beautiful pipe.....thatโs my type of pipe๐๐๐. Looks like a chubby stacked Lovat......outrageously finished.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 21, 2018 16:49:33 GMT -5
Jason ^^^^^^^^^^ beautiful pipe.....thatโs my type of pipe๐๐๐. Looks like a chubby stacked Lovat......outrageously finished. it's actually fairly small. The bowl is only about 1.5" deep.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 16:59:43 GMT -5
Jason ^^^^^^^^^^ beautiful pipe.....thatโs my type of pipe๐๐๐. Looks like a chubby stacked Lovat......outrageously finished. it's actually fairly small. The bowl is only about 1.5" deep. Your already accomplishing what many pipe makers takes years of practice. The Billiard bowl is in my opinion one of the hardest to achieve.....your already there๐๐๐๐ PS Itโs time you stamp your initials until you design a logo.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 21, 2018 17:05:05 GMT -5
Jason ^^^^^^^^^^ beautiful pipe.....thatโs my type of pipe๐๐๐. Looks like a chubby stacked Lovat......outrageously finished. thanks for the compliment!
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 21, 2018 17:22:29 GMT -5
Cramptholomew, you are an outstanding craftsman. The finish on that is sterling. Superb brother. I agree with @lonecoyote... Get your logo on those babies.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 21, 2018 17:29:07 GMT -5
Cramptholomew, you are an outstanding craftsman. The finish on that is sterling. Superb brother. I agree with @lonecoyote... Get your logo on those babies. thanks, buddy. Soon...
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 21, 2018 20:53:42 GMT -5
Congratulations, Jason...you've done what other just think about....and done it well.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 21, 2018 21:16:52 GMT -5
Congratulations, Jason...you've done what other just think about....and done it well. Thank you Walt. I appreciate it. I think I could've taken some more off the chin of the bowl, maybe tightened up the shank/bowl junction some more, and the button is not perfect, but overall I'm happy with this most recent project. Onward and upward!
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Post by beardedmi on Nov 21, 2018 21:21:14 GMT -5
To my eye the entire bottom section of the chin from the back of the bowl to the front needs material removed as a billie family pipe is one that the chin is higher than the plane of the shank and stem. I only noticed it after reading your own critique. Id smoke the hell out of any of the pipes you've created they are all lookers and unique.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 22, 2018 7:59:29 GMT -5
To my eye the entire bottom section of the chin from the back of the bowl to the front needs material removed as a billie family pipe is one that the chin is higher than the plane of the shank and stem. I only noticed it after reading your own critique. Id smoke the hell out of any of the pipes you've created they are all lookers and unique. You're exactly right. And the reason I'm not going to fix it? The stupid thing sits! There's just enough material there, that it sits by itself. So, in the battle of adhering to exacting standards, or the functionality of a sitter, sitter wins.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 8:23:56 GMT -5
To my eye the entire bottom section of the chin from the back of the bowl to the front needs material removed as a billie family pipe is one that the chin is higher than the plane of the shank and stem. I only noticed it after reading your own critique. Id smoke the hell out of any of the pipes you've created they are all lookers and unique. You're exactly right. And the reason I'm not going to fix it? The stupid thing sits! There's just enough material there, that it sits by itself. So, in the battle of adhering to exacting standards, or the functionality of a sitter, sitter wins. Jason, the pipe looks perfect just how itโs sitting๐๐๐
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 22, 2018 8:35:42 GMT -5
To my eye the entire bottom section of the chin from the back of the bowl to the front needs material removed as a billie family pipe is one that the chin is higher than the plane of the shank and stem. I only noticed it after reading your own critique. Id smoke the hell out of any of the pipes you've created they are all lookers and unique. You're exactly right. And the reason I'm not going to fix it? The stupid thing sits! There's just enough material there, that it sits by itself. So, in the battle of adhering to exacting standards, or the functionality of a sitter, sitter wins. just say it was intentional...
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 22, 2018 8:46:30 GMT -5
You're exactly right. And the reason I'm not going to fix it? The stupid thing sits! There's just enough material there, that it sits by itself. So, in the battle of adhering to exacting standards, or the functionality of a sitter, sitter wins. just say it was intentional... It was intentional.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 22, 2018 9:03:26 GMT -5
just say it was intentional... It was intentional. There ya go.
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Post by piffyr on Nov 22, 2018 10:27:32 GMT -5
Really nice work, Jason! Mine would be another vote for some cosmetic surgery on that chin and transition. It's a fine pipe either way, but with a couple of tweaks it could be a really impressive billiard.
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