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Post by johnlawitzke on Nov 16, 2018 22:08:12 GMT -5
Pretty fast sellout at SP since I believe it was allocated the most online out of the 6,000 tins headed to the US. I just checked my cellar, the 2016 and 2017 releases were limited to 2,400 tins compared to 8,000 tins this year, I can't help but wonder if they aren't the recipient of the red leaf that went to McClelland's formerly. The 2016, is starting to bulge...hope it ain't mold.  No. This release of CRF is the last of the original crop of leaf that was used for the first two batches. Any future release of CRF will be from a new crop that is as good. Source: personal communication with Jeremy Reeves. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 0:40:32 GMT -5
I just checked my cellar, the 2016 and 2017 releases were limited to 2,400 tins compared to 8,000 tins this year, I can't help but wonder if they aren't the recipient of the red leaf that went to McClelland's formerly. The 2016, is starting to bulge...hope it ain't mold. No. This release of CRF is the last of the original crop of leaf that was used for the first two batches. Any future release of CRF will be from a new crop that is as good. Source: personal communication with Jeremy Reeves. Make sure you check out the most recent Country Squire Podcast, JD interviews the head honcho of Laudisi sales...they talk about Jeremy Reeves and his commitment to excellence. He recently went through the process to get certified in USDA grading of tobacco crops. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 1:04:49 GMT -5
And on the podcast, he said that QC issues on the Peterson line are at the forefront of their priorities.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 17, 2018 3:47:12 GMT -5
And on the podcast, he said that QC issues on the Peterson line are at the forefront of their priorities. That's good to know. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 10:39:10 GMT -5
And on the podcast, he said that QC issues on the Peterson line are at the forefront of their priorities. Was (or were) Peterson's having QC issues on their pipe tobacco blends Charlie? |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 11:05:44 GMT -5
And on the podcast, he said that QC issues on the Peterson line are at the forefront of their priorities. Was (or were) Peterson's having QC issues on their pipe tobacco blends Charlie? I hadn't heard of any issues with the tobacco's, but I am sure that after the STG produced Peterson blends hit the market, there will be grumblings about how the new stuff isn't like the old. It wasn't that long ago someone said (I believe on this site), that the University flake was better when _____ tinned it back in the day. The Peterson problem seems to be with the pipes....drilling being too high and too low, stain inside the bowl are most of the complaints that I have read about. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Nov 17, 2018 11:18:21 GMT -5
Never had any so I grabbed 4 tins. Going to crack one and cellar the rest. What is a good length of time for this? Year, 2, 5? There's no hard rule of thumb. 5, 10, 20. I'm smoking some 1995 Christmas Cheer right now and it's a lovely smoke. Reds can go a long, long time. But even a couple of years is going to be beneficial. Most of the aging "benefits" happen in the first 1 to 5 years. After that, change is much more incremental. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Nov 17, 2018 11:31:13 GMT -5
I bought 10 tins of it. After the 2016 fiasco I decided to sit out the 2017 re-release. Since there weren't any reports of widespread outbreaks of mold, I decided to take a chance with this year's reissue. Fingers crossed!
As I recall, the 2016 was a pretty good Red flake, at a par with the McClelland product, though not as rich.
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Post by danno44 on Nov 17, 2018 14:44:11 GMT -5
Pretty fast sellout at SP since I believe it was allocated the most online out of the 6,000 tins headed to the US. I just checked my cellar, the 2016 and 2017 releases were limited to 2,400 tins compared to 8,000 tins this year, I can't help but wonder if they aren't the recipient of the red leaf that went to McClelland's formerly. The 2016, is starting to bulge...hope it ain't mold. I would be checking the 2016. Unfortunately of the tins me and John L had we had 100% mold rate of the I think 8 or so tins we opened. It hurt like hell to send it back for refund because it was so good. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 15:22:23 GMT -5
Duly noted, I cracked one open..... Hopefully I will dodge more bullets with future tins.  |
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Post by danno44 on Nov 17, 2018 15:32:50 GMT -5
Duly noted, I cracked one open..... Hopefully I will dodge more bullets with future tins. Side note. Once jarred keep checking. Mine looked like that and a few days later disaster. I think johnlawitzke had the same experience. I really hope yours is OK! Interested in following the progress on it. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 15:36:27 GMT -5
Wow,
So I guess mold can be in suspension when tinned and when released to the air it can be off to the races?
Not meant sarcastically, realizing in print it could be taken that way....the only mold I have ever dealt with is replacing timbers on remedial construction jobs in the days of my yute. Pretty ignorant about mold as it pertains to tobacco.
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Post by danno44 on Nov 17, 2018 15:58:19 GMT -5
Yeah we were shocked as well. I never had any issues before or since with the ugly “M” ...I didn’t think it would appear either but unfortunately it did.
I really hope yours is ok because it was IMO excellent.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 16:14:45 GMT -5
If that is the case with this one, future tins will be cracked at the pipe club meeting for the willing guinea....um pipe club members.
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Post by danno44 on Nov 17, 2018 16:20:21 GMT -5
I hope I didn’t come across and doom and gloom, not my intention. Just a heads up on what I had happen to me. It really is a great baccy and I have stocked up on the 2017 and 2018 releases because the 2016 I tried was SO good.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 17, 2018 16:20:24 GMT -5
If that is the case with this one, future tins will be cracked at the pipe club meeting for the willing guinea....um pipe club members. If there are mold spores present it could affect the other open tobaccos present, could it not? |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 16:36:37 GMT -5
I don't know, but they are a hardy bunch!
Hopefully someone else will chime in...I could always crack them a week or so in advance and se what does or doesn't develop, and if they go south, contact C&D for a credit.
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Post by haveldad on Nov 17, 2018 16:40:42 GMT -5
I don't know, but they are a hardy bunch! Hopefully someone else will chime in...I could always crack them a week or so in advance and se what does or doesn't develop, and if they go south, contact C&D for a credit. Vinegar is a natural fungicide, you can also safely stove it at 220 degrees Fahrenheit for 220 minutes, this will certainly nuke the mold |
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Post by Baboo on Nov 17, 2018 17:41:06 GMT -5
I don't know, but they are a hardy bunch! Hopefully someone else will chime in...I could always crack them a week or so in advance and se what does or doesn't develop, and if they go, contact C&D for a credit. Vinegar is a natural fungicide, you can also safely stove it at 220 degrees Fahrenheit for 220 minutes, this will certainly nuke the mold Yes, stoving as you suggest will likely nuke any latent mold, but will also put a harness on the aging process, so I've heard. |
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Post by haveldad on Nov 17, 2018 17:48:58 GMT -5
Vinegar is a natural fungicide, you can also safely stove it at 220 degrees Fahrenheit for 220 minutes, this will certainly nuke the mold Yes, stoving as you suggest will likely nuke any latent mold, but will also put a harness on the aging process, so I've heard. I just slapped one of my tins in the oven, going to try stoving it and then compare to a fresh tin and see how I feel about it. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 17, 2018 18:16:42 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back at the P&C ranch...still backordered on HH Burley Flake...this is 4 months on backorder...pretty much gave up on them earlier but still checking just to aggravate myself. I sent a message to Per Jensen and asked about that flake coming to market, I will post his reply in this thread. Thanks, Charlie. I'm not interested anymore...the Burley Flake is nice but monochromatic..need to add something to have it have character...I've got too many other choices at this point to bother with a pound of Burley Flake...after 4 months my interest has waned. |
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Post by Baboo on Nov 17, 2018 18:22:15 GMT -5
Yes, stoving as you suggest will likely nuke any latent mold, but will also put a harness on the aging process, so I've heard. I just slapped one of my tins in the oven, going to try stoving it and then compare to a fresh tin and see how I feel about it. Stoving can mellow a blend and enhance the natural sweetness of the Virginia's; also pleasant side-effects of aging... so stoving seems a win win. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 18:32:51 GMT -5
I hope I didn’t come across and doom and gloom, not my intention. Just a heads up on what I had happen to me. It really is a great baccy and I have stocked up on the 2017 and 2018 releases because the 2016 I tried was SO good. I don't know, but they are a hardy bunch! Hopefully someone else will chime in...I could always crack them a week or so in advance and se what does or doesn't develop, and if they go south, contact C&D for a credit. I don't know, but they are a hardy bunch! Hopefully someone else will chime in...I could always crack them a week or so in advance and se what does or doesn't develop, and if they go south, contact C&D for a credit. Vinegar is a natural fungicide, you can also safely stove it at 220 degrees Fahrenheit for 220 minutes, this will certainly nuke the mold You're not doom and gloom. I appreciate the fact that John and yourself experimented, and you presented your findings here. trailboss Keep us posted on the jarred contents of the 2016 CRF please. In addition to the vinegar method mentioned above by haveldad , I was wondering if light, such as ultraviolet or something similar may have a termination effect on tobacco mold? Thinking if so, a piper could simply pour their tin onto newspaper (or something similar), and then move the contents under the light for some undetermined amount of time. Thus, killing the mold and preserving the aging quality of the tinned 2016 CRF. Just a thought... |
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Post by peteguy on Nov 17, 2018 20:08:44 GMT -5
Didn't buy any and never will - due to the "M" as mentioned. I like to cellar in tins whenever possible.
GL all who bought and have bought. I hope it turns out to be a fantastic smoke.
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Post by gav on Nov 17, 2018 22:19:24 GMT -5
on that picture I thought that looks like mold on the very bottom right flake but probably an optical illusion.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 23:14:10 GMT -5
on that picture I thought that looks like mold on the very bottom right flake but probably an optical illusion. Yep...I looked close at the pic, and thought I saw a few white dots. I got rid of the company, broke out the magnifying glass and good light, no white, no fuzzies. Loaded a bowl, and it is definitely a smoother customer than it was two years ago. |
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