cwpiperman
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Post by cwpiperman on Nov 16, 2018 11:29:45 GMT -5
Hi folks!
I've decided, given I've enjoyed everything I've tasted so far from all genres (to greater and lesser degrees), that I'd like to try a blend with deertongue. I've decided on C&D Crooner, because it sounds like a blend I'd like even without the deertongue. I do have a question:
Have any of you who've tried both noticed a difference between BULK Crooner and Tinned Cooner? I'm adding it to my order at SPC, if that helps.
Thanks!!
CW
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 12:09:38 GMT -5
You need to ask Grumpy he loves that stuff.
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Post by McWiggins on Nov 16, 2018 12:14:39 GMT -5
While I have no experience with Crooner, I will say this......
C&D bulk vs tin is like most blends when comparing. If the bag the bulk is being pulled from has not been handled well or is old, the tobacco will suffer. More times than not, everything is OK. Tinned tobacco is sealed at the peak of perfection the blender wants. At least asside from it being aged though there are blends sold that have age on them. Never the less, if you want the best a blend can be then get it tinned. At the same time, I've tried many blends tinned and in bulk and neither was really that different honestly and if you are ever given samples from another, its all going to be in plastic sandwich bags too. Either way you go, you should be fine but tinned can give you extra assurance of quality.
Also, if you dont know, deer tongue can ghost a pipe. I myself smoke at times C&D Gentleman Caller in a MM Country Gentleman. The very first bowl I had ghosted it. I dint smoke it again for two months and I could easily smell that deer tongue still.
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cwpiperman
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Post by cwpiperman on Nov 16, 2018 12:36:50 GMT -5
While I have no experience with Crooner, I will say this...... C&D bulk vs tin is like most blends when comparing. If the bag the bulk is being pulled from has not been handled well or is old, the tobacco will suffer. More times than not, everything is OK. Tinned tobacco is sealed at the peak of perfection the blender wants. At least asside from it being aged though there are blends sold that have age on them. Never the less, if you want the best a blend can be then get it tinned. At the same time, I've tried many blends tinned and in bulk and neither was really that different honestly and if you are ever given samples from another, its all going to be in plastic sandwich bags too. Either way you go, you should be fine but tinned can give you extra assurance of quality. Also, if you dont know, deer tongue can ghost a pipe. I myself smoke at times C&D Gentleman Caller in a MM Country Gentleman. The very first bowl I had ghosted it. I dint smoke it again for two months and I could easily smell that deer tongue still. Thanks for the info. Yes, I plan to dedicate one of my many MM cobs to this....I've done that with aromatics (not too many) that I've not wanted to take the chance with.
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Nov 16, 2018 12:52:18 GMT -5
What is Deer Tongue ?
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 16, 2018 13:03:23 GMT -5
Bambi doesn't want to talk about it. Actually, Bambi can't talk about it... He can't talk at all. P.s. I've no idea either.
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Post by cwpiperman on Nov 16, 2018 13:15:57 GMT -5
Deertongue, also called dog-tongue and vanilla plant (Trilisa odoratissima), is native to the U.S. coastal region from North Carolina to Florida. It is characterized by basal clusters of dog- or deer-tongue shaped leaves followed by a three-to-five-foot central flower stalk with purple flowers in late summer. It inhabits the poor, sandy soil near Carolina Bays or pocosins and flat pine lands and is found as far inland as Sampson and Wayne Counties.
The deciduous leaves of this perennial herb were the focus of its value to people. Deertongue leaves were harvested from June to the first frost, sun dried on blankets, and sold to buyers that baled the dry leaves and in turn sold them to large buying centers. Two of the largest of these centers were in Brunswick, Ga., and Richmond, Va. Most of the dried leaves were then sold to tobacco companies, ground up, and placed in tobacco products to give a pleasant, vanilla-like aroma. Tobacco companies did not make this practice public, but it persisted until at least the 1970s, when supplies of deertongue began dwindling and substitute ingredients were found.
In early homesteads, deertongue leaves were placed in bureaus to impart a pleasant smell to clothing or hung in bundles in rooms to freshen the air. Deertongue also has medicinal properties; Native Americans and the earliest settlers made a tea that was believed to be an all-purpose cure and tonic. Deertongue concoctions were also used as stimulants and sweat-inducing agents.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 16, 2018 13:30:53 GMT -5
I have Crooner in bulk, and it's very good. I didn't even know they made it in tins (I'll have to look into that). To me, it's like a quality codger blend with yummy Deertongue. I also have Gentleman Caller, tinned, which is a fantastic Deertongue blend. If you like things a little more complex, try the Gentleman Caller as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 16:52:03 GMT -5
Deertounge is definitely an acquired taste, you either like it or don’t. There is no in between fences. As for me, I don’t.
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 17, 2018 4:43:59 GMT -5
Bambi doesn't want to talk about it. Actually, Bambi can't talk about it... He can't talk at all. P.s. I've no idea either. You should have left it at the first sentence padre..😁
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 17, 2018 5:08:40 GMT -5
Bambi doesn't want to talk about it. Actually, Bambi can't talk about it... He can't talk at all. P.s. I've no idea either. You should have left it at the first sentence padre..😁 yea, I thought so too. I failed humour 102.
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 17, 2018 5:52:47 GMT -5
I love Crooner, Gentleman Caller, New Market, and Engine #382.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 17, 2018 10:25:15 GMT -5
At SP, 2 oz. of bulk crooner costs $5.49, and a 2 ounce tine will cost you $9.78...for that price differential, the tins are a non starter for me unless I did a lot of travelling.
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